Hoping a learned scholar out there can help............. My understanding is the 9 Schools are a mixture of Ninjutsu, JuJutsu, Karate and Aikido. Assuming thats correct and the Togakure Ryu, Kumogakure Ryu, Gyokijshin Ryu are the Ninjutsu Schools, which of the other 6 are related to which art? Gyokko Ryu Koshijutsu Koto Ryu Koppojutsu Kuki Shinden Ryu Happo Hiken Gikan Ryu Koppojutsu Shinden Fudo Ryu Dakentaijutsu Takagi Yoshin Ryu Jutaijutsu Thanks. AndrewA
Nope, the non ninja schools are all (arguably) classical "jujutsu" schools, Koppo schools can also be called karate, but only because they're related to Chinese striking, nothing to do with what is popularly known as karate.
You can find it listed on Wikipedia. Nine schools are something like Archery, horse riding, espionage, climbing something something something.
So its possible that the older (Japanese) schools could be classed as Karate? Obviously not Karate as we see it today, but a much older format...........
Don't think so. I would classify something as "Karate" if it has a foundation in Okinawa. Don't think anything in the Booj has a foundation in Okinawa. Although "Karate" is such a broad term it's almost meaningless without lots of clarification and additional information.
The only Aikido that I know of was developed in the 1900's by a non-ninja, and it has nothing to do with ninjas. Is there a different Aikido that you know of?
Hi There are 9 schools each with their own history and, as a result, differing approaches or specialisations. Generally speaking the schools' names reflect their areas of focus However, several have shared histories so they are somewhat related / intertwined and one shouldn't rush to categorise these things too precisely I don't think that it makes sense to categorise any of the schools as karate or aikido. Nowadays all of the schools could be thought of as Traditional Japanese Budo or, in the unarmed context, probably people could think of them as forms of jujutsu. They all incorporate ideas of grappling, striking and flowing with force etc Gyokko and Koto Ryus are the fighting styles from the Iga region and share a history with Togakure Ryu. Togakure Ryu sits on top of these styles as a sort of specialisation or variant of them Kukishinden and Takagi Yoshin Ryu share a history and are pretty similar to a lot of traditional Japanese styles, as is Shinden Fudo Ryu People don't know much about Gikan, Kumogakure and Gyokushin Hope that helps
You could argue the first 7 or so are covered. (at least 1 to 3 and 7 anyway) Taijutsu (unarmed combat) Kenjutsu (sword techniques including Tojutsu) Bōjutsu (stick and staff techniques) Sōjutsu (spear techniques) Naginatajutsu (naginata techniques) Kusarigamajutsu (kusarigama techniques) Shurikenjutsu (throwing weapons techniques)
Let's not derail the thread please. We train for different reasons and just because an art is not to our own liking doesn't discount it or detract from its validity for it's practitioners. Thank you.
There's plenty of good jinenkan and genbukan folks around, and some very good bjkn people around too (but a lot of dross too)
The 18 skills (different to the nine schools) are kind of like the broad educational curriculum for a Togakure Ryu practitioner from a long time ago In the Kukishin style there is a similar list which reads like an education for a feudal lord. Quite a few old Japanese traditions have similar ideas/curricula For obvious reasons people aren’t particularly interested in many of the more obsolete skills, but the essential principles are passed on and can be useful / relevant
I don't understand, are you posting he dross? @2:38 one guy tried a drop kick of some kind against his opponents hips? Nah, I'll pass.