I Beat A Taekwondo Black Belt with No Martial Arts Experience

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  1. Endolphins

    Endolphins Valued Member

    A chick I knew who was a TKD black belt was bullying some of my friends so I confronted her. She tried to kick me in the stomach. I side-stepped, grabbed her leg and she retracted it fast enough that it yanked me on top of her. The both of us fell to the ground and I instinctively hooked my legs into hers to prevent her from kicking any further and pinned both of her arms. She couldn't do anything and she's way taller than me so we kind of just lay there for a minute or two.

    Eventually, she bluffed that she would stop. I let her up again and this time she really did kick me in the stomach; hard. Luckily, I work out, so my abs absorbed most of the blow but I still hunched over a little bit from the force. She then tried to axe kick me but a friend pulled me away just in time. She started coming after me again, pushing my friend aside. At this point, I'm not gonna lie, I was a bit worried because I knew she wanted to hurt me so I closed the distance as quickly as I could, holding both of my arms over my head as protection. She kicked my leg but it didn't stop me from tackling her to the ground again. This time, my friends grabber her legs and arms and I told her to stop again.

    She eventually got up and walked away. My heart was beating fast but I knew I had persevered in the end.

    Moral of the story: if you find yourself going up against a striking art, especially with emphasis on kicks, go for the ground. It is unfamiliar territory for them most of the time.
     
  2. aaradia

    aaradia Choy Li Fut and Yang Tai Chi Chuan Student Moderator Supporter

    Sorry, but it sounds more like she was beaten because she was one person vs multiple opponents. Your friend pulled you away from a kick when you were still incapacitated from her previous blow, then your friends held her down. Why do you say "I" not "we" persevered in the end? You did not defeat her solo by your own description. How many friends were involved besides you? It sounds like at least two friends- meaning three people vs one? Maybe more?

    It's nice that you took a stand against people being bullied, but I would be curious to hear more about what led up to this bullying. What was the nature of it? Where did it happen? How she could be a threat against multiple people, why you and your friends couldn't get away, talk to an authority figure and so forth? What steps are being taken to avoid a repeat- perhaps with a different outcome? Maybe when she comes upon only one of you? Have you filed a police report regarding being physically assaulted?

    You can't assume that someone striking you doesn't also have some grappling experience. You knew this person's background beforehand. In this day of MMA training, it is not a smart assumption to make. Also, some striking schools that aren't even MMA schools have added submission grappling to their curriculum. I belong to a CLF and Yang TCC school, but they added submission grappling a few years ago. Because they were realistic about this gap in the training without it. I am quite sure my school is not the only one. Some people who don't train in an MMA gym do train in several styles at once in different schools- often one grappling and one striking.

    Moral of the story: multiple opponents are bad news. Period. Even if you are a TKD black belt.

    Glad you are ok.
     
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  3. Endolphins

    Endolphins Valued Member

    Thanks

    There were three of us but even if it were one on one, I still think I would have beaten her. I have more testosterone and physical strength.

    She bullied us because one of my friends had cheated on one of her friends. This happened in a quiet park near the community college we all attend.

    If she comes for me again and it's one on one, I'm taking her to the ground again until she realises she cannot win
     
  4. aaradia

    aaradia Choy Li Fut and Yang Tai Chi Chuan Student Moderator Supporter

    I think you are overestimating yourself from that description. And that could be dangerous for you. If your friend hadn't pulled you away, she would have gotten that second kick in by your own description. It took your friends holding her down the second time for the situation to end - for that time anyways.

    So, it really wasn't bullying then. It was a confrontation, sure. But sorry, a fight over people cheating on each other is not what bullying is. Maybe technically, but not really what most of us think about when we think of someone being bullied. She was defending a friend that your friend apparently mistreated by cheating. But maybe I just don't have enough information and am wrong. How exactly did she "bully" him? What did she say that was so threatening? Did she do anything physical to him? Did your friend escalate the situation by getting into it with her?

    You didn't answer the other questions. No one could walk away? Call someone on a cell phone? She didn't hit someone else first? You couldn't leave and notify the campus police? Duck into a building? When you went up there, how exactly did you try to stop the situation before she kicked you?
     
  5. Endolphins

    Endolphins Valued Member

    I'm not overestimating myself. I have taken a lot of damage in my life and have a high pain threshold. Even if she landed the second kick, I know for sure it would not have incapacitated me completely.

    She started confronting my friend about him cheating on her friend and my friend swore at her and told her to go away. She kind of lost her temper and shoved him. My friend stood his ground and I automatically went inbetween them because I knew she was a black belt. She then shoved me aside and I grabbed her arm and told her to stop and that's when she tried to kick me.

    We didn't call police or authority etc because there was no need to. We handle our own business. We did not start a fight with that girl. She started one with us and neither of us laid a finger on her except to hold her down.

    Kicking me in the stomach is not what I'd consider ''defending her friend'' whether she was cheated on or not. Sorry, but she had no right to act like that towards my friend.

    She had followed us from campus after her friend broke up with mine
     
  6. aaradia

    aaradia Choy Li Fut and Yang Tai Chi Chuan Student Moderator Supporter

    When I said "defending her friend" I referred to the initial confrontation that you classified as bullying. Before you got involved. At the point she kicked you, it sounds like assault. Although now it sounds like the physical part started before? Well, whenever the physical part started, it evolved into something else like assault. But your friend didn't do any type of de-escalation. Rather the opposite. Not saying it was proper for her to follow your friend and confront him either. But just not a case of people being bullied.

    If you think you "know for sure" what would have happened, sorry no. You don't know. You just don't. Underestimating someone like that is dangerous.
     
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  7. Endolphins

    Endolphins Valued Member

    Well like I said before, I'm what some would consider ''tough'' in that I've taken a lot of damage before without much effect on me. Also, being a guy, I have more testosterone and red blood cells and am pretty built as well. I think my strength would stop her aggression alone. Maybe I'm underestimating her but I kind of got a feel for her based on our initial tussle. Besides, kicks can be dangerous for the kicker because I had caught her first one and that led us to the ground. So, I feel pretty confident. Maybe others see that as unwise but I always believed in mind over matter
     
  8. Xue Sheng

    Xue Sheng All weight is underside

    Just out of curiosity, how old are you?
     
  9. Endolphins

    Endolphins Valued Member

    Old enough
     
  10. Xue Sheng

    Xue Sheng All weight is underside

    That all depends on your point of view.... being over a half century (50 < me < 60) ...old enough can likely mean something very different to me than someone much younger

    Greater than or less than 20?
    Greater than or less than 30?
     
  11. Endolphins

    Endolphins Valued Member

    What does this have to do with this topic?
     
  12. Endolphins

    Endolphins Valued Member

    Btw, that girl texted me and she's cheesed off I got in the way. She wants to meet me in 15 minutes, one on one. I'm going to go and settle this once and for all

    MOD Note. Please watch the profanity.
     
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  13. Xue Sheng

    Xue Sheng All weight is underside

    It might explain the entire approach to this situation, IMO it is incredibly applicable to the topic. Why is it such a big deal answering the simple question; Greater than or less than 20, Greater than or less than 30?
     
  14. Endolphins

    Endolphins Valued Member

    I find it condescending, age is just a number. I g2g and finish this thing
     
  15. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

    Cool story bro.
     
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  16. Xue Sheng

    Xue Sheng All weight is underside

    I'm not condescending, just trying to get the full picture, I also have no idea what g2g means, I do not text and remember I am old, and I am fairly sure that is what you are thinking based on my age. However I do already know the answer to my question based on your resistance to respond. I will not longer ask, but you do have some growing up to do, but that is to be expected based on your age. If you were greater than 30 with this type of post I would be concerned. I am glad you were not injured, but I recommend trying to look at things from more than one side and avoid labels if at all possible.
     
  17. Rataca100

    Rataca100 Banned Banned

    What smit said and censoring swearing also breeches ToS, no doubt the mod will come back and tell you anyway.


    Moral of the story would be better dont but into other peoples buisness. and this is anecdotal evidence, which fro all purposes can be rejected anyway.


    I could maybe beat one of my cousins which teachesTKD and came from doing judo a little bit if i jsut rushed them if i actually wanted to hurt him. (pyric victory is stilla victory :p)


    Just for a counter point, if its a enphisis on kciking, they could break your leg or something similar if they wanted to.

    Edit: I can also testify for at least one "street" fight they "won" and secondasry source, mugging. But i mean they did Judo before hand so meh.
     
  18. Endolphins

    Endolphins Valued Member

    Yeah it is a cool story bro

    You know the answer already? Assumptions my friend, they are unreliable at best and pedantic at worst. Growing up to do? I handled the situation well. I just saw her now and she wants to go out with me on Friday.

    I was not in the wrong and anyone that thinks so can mind their own.
     
  19. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

    You and your mate sound like a right couple of muppets.
     
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  20. Endolphins

    Endolphins Valued Member

    If it's my friend in potential danger, I'm getting into that business
     
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