Wing Tsun+Choy Lay Fut?

[Master J]

I have just started Choy Lay Fut, but because I can only do 1 class a week, 2 if I'm lucky, I was thinking of doing another MA also. I was thinking of Wing Tsun. Would this be a good combination, Choy Lay Fut and Wing Tsun? Will it be good for "on the street" self defence? And also does anyone know if I will learn any rolling and breakfalling in WT or CLF?

[GeeniusAtWurk]

I'd say do CLF and a grappling art, like BJJ. muay thai would work too. This thread is a good source for what you're looking for. the author is a CLF practitioner as well.

[Stingrae789]

Wing chun isnt really bad to cross train in (heck i do it because my sifu teaches wing chun , CLF, hung gar etc.) But its is very different. But like it was said that thread should give you an idea

[Hero]

its hard to put togther i have exp in both arts and its somewhat like the oppsite insted of a wide horrse stance in wt u have a shorter one but in my oppoion wing tsun willl get the job done on its own-good luck in ur training

[Ikken Hisatsu]

bad idea. both arts focus on the same thing, stand up fighting. so not only are you only experienced in one of the three ranges of fighting, but you are practicing two arts that focus on one aspect of fighting (stand up) and so will give you conflicting messages.

[dustIn credible]

what wing chun is to me well........lets not get into that but i agree 100% with Ikken, dont train in two arts that primarly focus on the same range of fighting.

IMHO

[hand0fdef]

Originally Posted by Master J

I have just started Choy Lay Fut, but because I can only do 1 class a week, 2 if I'm lucky, I was thinking of doing another MA also. I was thinking of Wing Tsun. Would this be a good combination, Choy Lay Fut and Wing Tsun? Will it be good for "on the street" self defence? And also does anyone know if I will learn any rolling and breakfalling in WT or CLF?

Drop the Choy Lay Fut and just do Wing tsun you will find not only is it a much better more advanced system than clf , it also works the mind rather than just monkey see monkey do.
Wing Tsun is one of the few styles which is complete, you dont need to fill in the gaps by crosstraining like you do with many other styles. Anyone who tells you different does not understand it or has not trained long enough to realise the full potential.

To master one style is better than 'knowing' several !

P.S
Dont listen to the guys who train plain wing chun , it aint the same as Wing Tsun and does have weaknesses, thats why many 'traditional' wing chun guys do have to cross train!

[Ikken Hisatsu]

rofl

no style is complete. you can tell a style is bullshido when the master of it claims it has no weakness. you need to stop troling your "wing tsun is god" crap on these forums- especially since you're only example is emin boztepe, and the only footage of him fighting is a girly slap fest with an old man.

[gedhab]

Originally Posted by hand0fdef

Drop the Choy Lay Fut and just do Wing tsun you will find not only is it a much better more advanced system than clf , it also works the mind rather than just monkey see monkey do.
Wing Tsun is one of the few styles which is complete, you dont need to fill in the gaps by crosstraining like you do with many other styles. Anyone who tells you different does not understand it or has not trained long enough to realise the full potential.

To master one style is better than 'knowing' several !

P.S
Dont listen to the guys who train plain wing chun , it aint the same as Wing Tsun and does have weaknesses, thats why many 'traditional' wing chun guys do have to cross train!

CLF is a complete system and covers more ranges than WC.
What do you mean by "guys who train plain WC"
There are many complete systems, what matters is HOW you train them and how often you train for.

Master J, you could take up WC if it is conveniant for you, although it has completely different power generation methods to that of CLF.

I think WC is a very good art but you should stick to CLF and try and find something htat will be more complementary to your CLF training.

good luck!

[hand0fdef]

Originally Posted by Ikken Hisatsu

rofl

no style is complete. you can tell a style is bullshido when the master of it claims it has no weakness. you need to stop troling your "wing tsun is god" crap on these forums- especially since you're only example is emin boztepe, and the only footage of him fighting is a girly slap fest with an old man.

Ikken tell me why you think no style is complete ? and also with your limited knowledge of wing tsun you think you can comment on it?

Gedhab, So clf covers more ranges maybe it has an out of distance range WT doesnt ,I am only interested in fighting range ,you know where I can hit you ,you can hit me. Not this long distance rubbish

[gedhab]

Originally Posted by hand0fdef

Ikken tell me why you think no style is complete ? and also with your limited knowledge of wing tsun you think you can comment on it?

Gedhab, So clf covers more ranges maybe it has an out of distance range WT doesnt ,I am only interested in fighting range ,you know where I can hit you ,you can hit me. Not this long distance rubbish

well we don't always need to fight in hugging distance either!

WC fighters are good at what they do, but they cover only close-quarters, and so in terms of ranges CLF is broader.

Go spar with people of different styles and not just kid yourself that your style is the best.

and quit acting like a leading authority on WC, its not very believable.

[Ikken Hisatsu]

you feel with your limited knowledge of other styles that you can comment, so why shouldnt I?

ranges of combat- striking, clinching, ground. you need all 3 or at the very least 2 to be a rounded fighter.

I dont think there are any "complete" styles because there is always someone who is a specialist in something that can beat you. There are systems that might teach everything, but you end up being a jack of all trades, master of none. even in MMA, most fighters will choose one aspect, such as striking or grappling, as their base. although I do believe MMA gyms such as straight blast are about as close as it gets to a complete system.

[hand0fdef]

Ok Ikken I now see you know nothing of Wing Tsun (c) otherwise you would know we cover all ranges ,kicking, punching, elbows & knees, and groundwork.

Gedhab , yes WT is execellent at close quaters! You seem misinformed if you believe in full contact sparring you can keep people at long distance. Just as in a real fight it inevitably ends up nose to nose in a clinch elbows and knees everywhere, ofthen rolling onto ground, but still Wing Tsun has all the answers! I have never felt like I needed to learn something else cause WT has it all!
And yes I have tried it against other styles, ofthen walking away with a smile on my face and some busted up fool begging me to teach him!


Anyway I have to

[gedhab]

Since when did traditional WC teach clinch and ground techniques? I know kevin chan of kamon does but that is beca ehe is a blue belt in BJJ...doesn't this tell you something!

Bruce Lee wasn't happy with just pure WC either.

You can fight people at a medium range, it doesn't have to be up cose all the time.

I seriosuly doubt you have had the fights you say you have and i for one, listening to your comments wouldn't want to train with you!

[hand0fdef]

Originally Posted by gedhab

Since when did traditional WC teach clinch and ground techniques? I know kevin chan of kamon does but that is beca ehe is a blue belt in BJJ...doesn't this tell you something!

wouldn't want to train with you!

*Profanity deleted* I am talking about Wing Tsun , its a world apart from traditional kevin chan,victor kan,simon lau, william cheung and sinclair types of wing chun.

Do your research before bothering me again , I got work to do, later..