Chronic lower back pain

[PlasmaShock]

About a year and a hald ago I went to the beach during the summer. When I got there, I noticed some sand pits that I could use for practising jumping techniques and flips. The pits where about a foot deep and had a perfect grassy edge to jump off of. I did this for about an hour or two(not consecutive because that would be completely exhausting). Anyways it was time to go and my legs where a little sore which is usual after doing a lot of jumping.

The next day I woke up with a really sore lower back and I thought that it was normal too. But my back would be sore from then on. The pain in my lower back would get pretty bad during jumps or tricking and it wouldn't stop. I have been enduring this for a year and a half and it has severly affected the quality of my techniques and is stopping the progression of learning new things. So a month ago I went to the physio and they diagnosed me with a injured hip. Jumping and landing on the right leg for certain tricks or techniques made my right hip higher than the left making the left leg longer. This also causes cronic pain in the right area of my lowerback.

After many physio sessions, I learned about exercises I could do to strengthn my core and hip area. Well after about a month of physio, the pain had diminished and was now in the left side or middle of my lowerback(better than pain the right side of my lowerback). But it never goes away. I keep bugging my parents to see the physio again but they said I don't need to go because I was done physio. This is really aggrivating me.

I really want to do these acrobatics because I enjoy it and there aren't any other hobbies that I'm interested in. Weight training kills my back and my legs are getting fatter which is slowing my kicks alot, I can't do plyometics to jump higher, and I can't train to get the body I want. I am desperate for help so I would greatly appreciate it if someone could give me advice.

Thanks.

[Su lin]

Hi Plasma,

I have been getting lower back pain more or less constantly for the last few years now.It was diagnosed as 2 things really, mechanical problems with the joints down my spine which then causes the muscles to cramp, and also problens with my sacroilliac joint and the tendons around it. I had physio that didn't really help but I did get a friend to try a tui na massage- it's basically a deep tissue/muscle massage that can unlock muscles but also you can identify if there are other root causes. Often in lower back pain the pain is a sypmtom of something else being misaligned elsewhere in the body. I need to get one of these every month or, like I am now,I start being in pain more or less all the time. I do kung fu/mma so am rolling around or kicking a lot, which can really aggravate the pain and the muscles.
I also found Omega 3 oils helped, taking 3 on a regular basis keeps me more "oiled" and supple. Strengthening your core is essential, make that part of your routine and it will stand you well for your tricking and acrobatics anyway.
I find I can train through pain now with painkillers (tablets and gel) and I know when I need to take a break too.

Good luck with it anyway ,I know how it can get you down!

[Frodocious]

I pulled a muscle in my back about 2 years ago and it still aches now. However, I have noticed that since I've been doing heavy deadlifts the pain has got a lot better - probably as I have tightened up my core and improved my posture.

As Lou says, a lot of lower back pain is actually related to problems elsewhere in the body, e.g. tight hips muscles. If you can persuade your parents to let you see a physio that would be a good move, if not try to get a good massage, stretch and work on core strength and posture. Don't sit slumped behid a computer all day!

[yannick35]

Get yourself into a good sport medical clinic they work has a team not a one person type of thing.

You first see the sport doctor that runs the diagnostics, he might send you for an MRI since you have been having issues for a long time now.

You must understand that lifting heavy weights or anything to drastic will make it a lot worst since most of the time the underlaying muscles are weak compared to the musclemass.

If you train your abs and lower back muscles that will not work the under laying muscles of the pelvic region is what i am saying.

I have been suffering from back pain for 8 years now and upper neck pain because of heavy squatting and deadlifts.

The sport clinic is the only place that is getting me back on my feet, telling me what i can and cant do.

Also you need to have patience because an injury like this will not heal fast.

I have been doing PT exercises for 2 months now with some good relief but i am still not 100%

[Tom O'Brien]

I have a slipped disc in the lower lumbar area and some arthritis in the spinal canal for good measure. The doctors claim that although working out is good for you - high impact activities like MA can do damage over the long run. So mine is from wear & tear - now they tell me. I've been doing all types of MA for over 35 yrs. I just started physical therapy & we are hoping to move the disc back a little to get some relief from the pain. Anybody have a slipped disc?

Thanks,
Tom

[yannick35]

Originally Posted by Tom O'Brien

I have a slipped disc in the lower lumbar area and some arthritis in the spinal canal for good measure. The doctors claim that although working out is good for you - high impact activities like MA can do damage over the long run. So mine is from wear & tear - now they tell me. I've been doing all types of MA for over 35 yrs. I just started physical therapy & we are hoping to move the disc back a little to get some relief from the pain. Anybody have a slipped disc?

Thanks,
Tom

I use an inversion table and a lumbar extender, i am not sure if theres would provide relief for you but they have worked wonders for me.

Also working the pelvic muscles can stabilize the spin.

I have had so many chiropratic adjustments i did a year and a half of this crap and my ligaments are slack.

My current PT which is amazing gave me theses exercises to do to strenghten the pelvic region, maybe you should also look in sport medecin.

[Tom O'Brien]

yannick,

Thanks for the advice.

Tom

[PlasmaShock]

Originally Posted by yannick35

I use an inversion table and a lumbar extender, i am not sure if theres would provide relief for you but they have worked wonders for me.

Also working the pelvic muscles can stabilize the spin.

I have had so many chiropratic adjustments i did a year and a half of this crap and my ligaments are slack.

My current PT which is amazing gave me theses exercises to do to strenghten the pelvic region, maybe you should also look in sport medecin.

My parents are tired of taking me to physios and doctors. I've already seen two and my back has been sore for 1 and a half to 2 years now. Something is very wrong and I'm sick of this and desperate for any healing or relief.

[Schmeag]

Regarding pain relief (although it won't actually treat the actual problem), have you tried taking painkillers or asked your doctor about a nerve block? Painkillers tend to work short-term, but an injection could potentially relieve pain for about three months. Of course, you'd be wanting some kind of diagnosis and subsequent treatment as well...

[adouglasmhor]

Originally Posted by PlasmaShock

My parents are tired of taking me to physios and doctors. I've already seen two and my back has been sore for 1 and a half to 2 years now. Something is very wrong and I'm sick of this and desperate for any healing or relief.

Tough for them, it sucks being a parent sometimes but they are your parents. You have to go to things like a physio or a sports doctor for a course of treatment not just one visit to get results.

[PCG82]

Lower back pain unfortunately is the norm, 80% of people suffer it at least for one spell in their life time. If you dont suffer from it your in the minority.

[yannick35]

Most people who have chronic pains and no spin damage must check out prolotherapy, most of the time chronic pains are due to lax ligaments and weak muscles do to supporting the lax ligaments.

You need to rebuild your muscles surrounding your back and prolotherapy will take care of the ligaments and tendons that are weak.

A good glucosamine supplement i use universal animal flex and universal animal omega which have won best supplement awards for 3 years strenght, plus i use genacol a 4 matrix collagen supplement.

This can really help rebuild the disks and rehydrate them.

BUt the most important thing to avoid disk damage or rebuild is to really decompress the back.

I have been very vocal on the rebuildyourback website because it works, you donate 20$ and download the e-book, this is the best program i have done yet, even better then what the PT gave me to do.

Anyone interested getting the program PM me i can send it to you via e-mail for free. This program is to good to be true.

The cobra is amazing and will decompress the back, eliminate most spams, also the e-book is packed with information, why most medical doctors will use drugs and nsac anti-inflamatory drugs instead of going to the root of the problem.

Why going to a chiroprator can do more arm then good. You know how i feel about chiros read my other post. Some people might have been brainwashed about there effectivness but the book will shed some light on all theses stinkers.

Living with pain is limiting our lives, life is just not worth living with pain, i know i have been suffering for 8 years.

I want to help anyone that i can help feel better and get back on there feet.

Good luck to all of you.

[Frodocious]

Originally Posted by PCG82

Lower back pain unfortunately is the norm, 80% of people suffer it at least for one spell in their life time. If you dont suffer from it your in the minority.

From what I've read it seems to me a lot of lower back pain is due to lifestyle issues rather than exercise induced. Its due to poor posture, too much time spent slouched in front of the computer/TV and lack of exercise leading to muscle weakness. There seems to be plenty of anecdotal evidence that when people with bad backs start a decent exercise/weight training program and deal with posture and muscle imbalances, the pain often eases up or goes away completely. In my experience (after pulling a back muscle doing 'superman' type exercises) the only advice I got from the doctor was rest it and stretch it. There was no advice about (or offer of) rehab and no suggestions for exercises to help with strengthening the back muscles to prevent future problems. I suffered for a good year or so until I started to do heavy weight training and since then I've had virtually no pain.

[raydvd]

i have had chronic back pain for about 20 years but did nothing about it all this time.had to go to physio and am now working on my core muscles and am trying to learn to take it easy when i,m sore.

Also about the fat legs and fitness , cycling is a fantastic way to get fit.... my back maybe as weak as a kittens but my legs are like pistons now lol

[ramancity]

Hi yannick35.

Would appreciate if you could email me rebuil your back. I injured my L4/L5 & L5/S1 disc back in dec 2005 while training in MA. I've tried all kinds of things to help heal it including chiropractors, but nothing has workded for me. Hope you don't mind.
Cheers. . .