Unusual for Hatsumi Sensei to leave his house?

Discussion in 'Ninjutsu' started by hendry, Sep 10, 2007.

  1. hendry

    hendry Valued Member

    In The Ninja and Their Secret Fighting Art , SKH writes that:

    Is this really true? How does he manage to teach at Daikomyosai and Taikai if he never leaves his house?

    And if he lives in anonymity, how did SKH hear about him? And how did the producers of Shinobi no Mono and You Only Live Twice come to hear of him.

    Also:

    Is this true?

    I dunno ... it just sounds a bit like Batman to me.
     
  2. Senban

    Senban Banned Banned

    Hendry, as a generic (rather than specific) answer, look at the date of the book's publication.

    In those days, there WERE no Tai Kai, Daikomyosai etc.
     
  3. slipthejab

    slipthejab Hark, a vagrant! Supporter

    besides if he did leave his house... who would know...I mean using all that ninja stealth and whatnot.... he'd pop down to the corner store and back for a six pack and you'd nor anyone else would the wiser. :D
     
  4. Big Will

    Big Will Ninpô Ikkan

    As it happens to be, I just re-read that book a few days ago.

    First of all, isn't Mr Hayes talking about 1975? I think Hatsumi, like everyone, has changed in 30 years.

    And in any case, I highly doubt Mr Hayes meant every word he wrote literally.

    He wrote about that in the same chapter ;) Read it again...

    Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Sôke himself is the only one who can answer that.
     
  5. Senban

    Senban Banned Banned

    Quite apart from that book, aren't there descriptions by Pedro Fleitas in one of his articles for Sanmyaku where he discusses going out for late walks with Hatsumi sensei? Didn't Bo Munthe write about something similar in his book "Traditional Ninjutsu"? I don't have references to hand because I'm in work but if no one has dug them out by the time I get home, I'll sort them out.
     
  6. benkyoka

    benkyoka one million times

    Many of the people who were training with him around that time have told stories of going out with him for walks with his dogs quite frequently. Also, around that time Hatsumi was seen on television occasionally, etc.
     
  7. bencole

    bencole Valued Member

    The idea that Hatsumi-sensei is some hermit that never leaves his house is pure fantasy.

    Hatsumi-sensei is extremely busy. There has been more than one occasion when Soke got stuck in traffic on the freeway, and couldn't make it to class.... :p People who are hermits don't get stuck on freeways and they don't have cell phones. :rolleyes:

    As for his nightly walks, this is true.

    Soke takes very long walks with his dogs. Sometimes his walks around Noda can take several *HOURS.* That is one of the ways that he stays so fit and limber, despite being 70+ years of age.

    Hayes had a way of taking liberties with truth and fiction in most of his books.... This is not the exception.

    -ben
     
  8. Dale Seago

    Dale Seago Matthew 7:6

    Certainly he gets out. I can recall him and his wife coming into the same restaurant for dinner where I'd just sat down to eat with some of my students. Kept having big-**** bottles of beer sent to our table.

    We explained we were going to train with Noguchi sensei at Hombu after dinner. He just gave an evil grin and chuckle.

    And kept sending beer over.
     
  9. althaur

    althaur Hunting scum


    I distinctly remember Noguchi-Sensei putting his arms around us and saying, " don't worry, I've been drinking too". That was a very painful class. :D
     
  10. Dale Seago

    Dale Seago Matthew 7:6

    Aye, it was that. ;)
     
  11. SWEHurricane

    SWEHurricane Valued Ninjer

    Hahahah, that made me laugh out loud!
     
  12. garth

    garth Valued Member

    Ben Cole posted
    But as MWDAndy posted

    Ben Cole posted
    We should remember that when Mr Hayes first wrote those books Dr Hatsumi was still working full time in his clinic and teaching an art that was unknown outside of a small circle of people in Noda and had probably never been outside of Japan.

    Today Hatsumi is a multimillionaire and has been paid by people to travel and teach international seminars. He has been very fortunate in that he was able to stop practicing his medicine and instead teach his art full time.

    Hell my gran lived and worked in the same town all her life and never ventured more than a mile from here front door. Since she retired she's been all over the world.

    Garth
     
  13. MagokoroDojo

    MagokoroDojo Banned Banned

    Hatsumi Sensei was very wealthy back then as well for whatever it is worth to the discussion. He always has been...
     
  14. garth

    garth Valued Member

    Magokoro Dojo
    Really, are you absolutely sure about that?

    Garth
     
  15. benkyoka

    benkyoka one million times

    Hatsumi has even mentioned how he spent huge amounts of money to train with many martial arts teachers before meeting Takamatsu.
     
  16. MagokoroDojo

    MagokoroDojo Banned Banned

    Yes. I am.
     
  17. garth

    garth Valued Member

    Magokoro Dojo posted
    I asked Magokoro Dojo if he was sure about that, he said he was.

    OK lets look at that the term "very Wealthy". now I don't know about others here, but I get by, and I can support myself and my family adequately but I am not "Very Wealthy".

    Now I don't know what people would say is very wealthy. I guess someone with money enough to buy a porsche,and a nice house in cash I would consider wealthy, Paul Mcartney, Steven Spielberg however i would consider to be "Very Wealthy" maybe very wealthy might be millionaire status.

    So Dr Hatsumi is "very wealthy" according to Magoro dojo. OK.

    Sanmyaku issue 9, page 14 an article by Tetsuji Ishizuka.

    Now this does not sound like the actions of a very wealthy man. Surely if you have students and you can afford it you get a professional in. Even I do that when something in my property goes wrong, and i'm not wealthy.

    Ishizuka continues

    Hell even I manage to support my wife and 2 children adequately but i am not VERY WEALTHY.

    he continues

    So with his money he managed to buy some weapons and written documents little by little.

    Little by little. Thats what I do. Thats what we all do.

    But I tell you what if i was rich, like Dr Hatsumi was supposed to be, I would be buying up everything I have always wanted.

    Garth
     
  18. stephenk

    stephenk Valued Member

    Seriously.....


    I mean seriously.....


    no...no....I mean REALLY......

    To bring a few threads together...I can not only avoid a strike from behind, I can also predict where this is going. In fact I saw it before the last post.

    See it's not magic. It's just being perceptive and not allowing you own *stuff* to get in the way of seeing things how they are.
     
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2007
  19. bencole

    bencole Valued Member

    I hate to inform you of this, but it's not like you can pick up quality budo documents and weaponry at any corner convenience store in Japan. :rolleyes:

    Things pop up every once in a while. And when they do (or did), Hatsumi-sensei would purchase them.

    Thus, "little by little."

    -ben
     
  20. MagokoroDojo

    MagokoroDojo Banned Banned

    Garth, you can believe whatever you want... it doesn't change the reality of things though.
     

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