National Geographic and Science of Martial Arts

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  1. Jackie Li

    Jackie Li Valued Member

    This looks real cool! From: http://www.realitytvwebsite.com/news070606c.html

    July 6th, 2006
    RealityTVWebsite.com

    National Geographic Channel Examines The Science Of Martial Arts In FIGHT SCIENCE

    World Champion Martial Arts Masters Meet Cutting-Edge Technology To Test the Most Complex Weapon on Earth - the Human Body

    National Geographic Channel′s Fight Science Builds Extraordinary Studio-Laboratory to Measure and Map the Impact, Range, Speed and Force of Martial Arts Moves

    It strikes four times faster than a snake. It kicks with more than 1,000 pounds of force. And it can rival the impact of a 35 mph car crash. It′s the most complex weapon ever designed - the human body.

    Now, the National Geographic Channel (NGC) brings together a dream team of scientists, motion-capture specialists and CGI animators, along with a cross-section of champion martial arts masters, to analyze the world′s greatest fight techniques. The tests are designed to separate fighting fact from martial arts myth and provide unprecedented insight into their astounding strengths and capabilities. The results will be presented in the two-hour world premiere special FIGHT SCIENCE, Sunday, August 20, at 9 p.m. ET/PT.

    For the first time, FIGHT SCIENCE brings together members of the crash-test industry, the sports biomechanics industry and the Hollywood animation industry - applying their combined expertise and technology to a diverse range of martial arts techniques, including karate, kung fu, jiu jitsu, tae kwon do, muay Thai and wushu, among others. The results reveal the comparative strengths, advantages and limitations of the various martial arts styles. And in a breakthrough combination of technologies, scientists are able to peer inside a fighter′s body in real time.

    FIGHT SCIENCE tests and films world-renowned martial artists, hand-picked to represent various disciplines, in a custom-built combination dojo (a school for training in the various arts of self-defense), high-tech lab and film studio that took over a year to design and build. Are the legends true? Is there such a thing as a death punch? How much force does each fighter exert? With 32 infrared motion capture cameras, three high-definition cameras and three ultra-high-speed cameras, the studio allows the crash test and biomechanics scientists to measure and map the speed, force, range and impact of muscles and bones in the fighters′ bodies.

    The motion-capture technique, requiring reflective markers over the fighters′ entire bodies, allows for sophisticated real-time three-dimensional models (seen in films like KING KONG, LORD OF THE RINGS, and THE POLAR EXPRESS). These results are combined with other data to create separate sophisticated animations of the fighters′ bones, muscles and nerves. Fight Science juxtaposes the fighters′ movements with their animated selves for unprecedented insight into exactly how the body generates each move.

    The lab, administered by engineer Randy Kelly - an expert in automotive testing and human-injury studies - also records data received by the recipient of the fighter′s strikes, a $150,000 government-certified crash-test dummy known as the "Hybrid III anthropomorphic test device." Outfitted with sensors and measurement capabilities created especially for this research, it allows scientists to measure the impact of blows, throws and kicks, providing data that frequently astounds Kelly and the other scientists. In addition, special sensors - originally developed for NASA spacesuits - take data from inside the fighters′ shoes to see how martial artists - especially ninjas - are able to maintain catlike balance no matter what the obstacle.

    "In my research, I have seen car crashes, I have seen impacts on the football field," said Kelly. "I have never seen feats of strength like this in any of the other disciplines that I′ve done research in."

    For the filming, live-action moves were recorded with high-speed, high-definition cameras. While typical film speed is 24 frames per second (fps), the producers utilized film speeds as high as 1,000 fps to capture lightning-fast kicks or to track the extraordinary force that breaks through layers of cinderblock. The results yielded crystal-clear images of remarkable energies at work.

    "IÕve been training for 25 years and everything that I′ve been doing up until now has been based on hearsay," says ninjitsu expert and stuntman Glen Levy in the film. "To me, it′s exciting to actually have data... it makes it more real."

    Over the centuries, martial arts fighters have supplemented their techniques with instruments like staffs, swords and nunchaku developed to magnify death-dealing potential. FIGHT SCIENCE also explores how the designs and techniques of weaponry can exponentially increase an already fearsome fighter′s impact, control and range.

    Ultimately, the tour de force that is FIGHT SCIENCE cedes its evaluations to the place where training, power and grace reach their ultimate balance: the heart, mind and spirit of a warrior, where fighting techniques transcend skill to become a true, unequivocal art.

    Martial arts supervisor for FIGHT SCIENCE is James Lew, a renowned member of the Martial Arts Hall of Fame. Participating on screen are (in alphabetical order) tae kwon do master Bren Foster; undefeated jiu jitsu champion Rickson Gracie; karate expert Mark Hicks; three-time national wushu gold medalist Alex Huynh; Dan Inosanto, one of the world′s leading authorities in jeet kune do; Li Jing, famed practitioner of Chinese wushu; fight trainer, choreographer, leading stuntman and ninjitsu expert Glen Levy; Dean Lister, the "world′s greatest grappler"; Melchor Menor, muay Thai kickboxing expert; Obata Toshishiro, member of an elite group of martial artists and a descendant in the samurai line of the Heike clan; undefeated professional boxer Steve Petramale; Craig and Paul Pumphrey, master demonstrators of breaking techniques and other outrageous feats of strength; and Amir Solsky, founder and leader of Capoeira Los Angeles.

    In addition to Kelly, scientists include Dr. Cindy Bir, an expert in ballistic and human body impacts; Dr. Tim Walilko, an impact trauma and sports biomechanics expert; and Dr. Norman Murphy, a leader in force and pressure data capture, analysis and interpretation.

    Photo Credits: National Geographic Channel

    Trailer: http://www.baseproductions.com/_data/work_tv/work1/view/index.html



    JL
     
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  2. MartialJac

    MartialJac Banned Banned

    How can I get to watch this in the UK??
     
  3. Durkhrod Chogori

    Durkhrod Chogori Valued Member

    Do you believe that stuff?

    Actually Chinese Taoists always studied wildlife to learn each animal's secret because humans alone don't have the capabilities that animal's posses especially when it comes to make a good use of internal energy power (qi). However, qigong and meditation have enhanced the fighting capabilities of humans. Mere force and biomechanics are simply not enough. Just try to train the great IMA (Taiji, Bagua and Xingyi) by relying solely in those external components, they'd just mere dancing exercises.
     
  4. 2E0WHN

    2E0WHN Valued Member

    Is this not a spinoff of the most talked about from Discovery that has the XMA people in there?
     
  5. narcsarge

    narcsarge Masticated Whey

    Great Post KickChick. It will be interesting to see what Science and technology can illustrate. I look forward to seeing this little gem.
     
  6. adouglasmhor

    adouglasmhor Not an Objectivist

    Kick chick has a big thread on this same subject :)

    I get this channel on NTL so will see it maybe
     
  7. Angelus

    Angelus Waiting for summer :D

    pretty cool :D
     
  8. Jackie Li

    Jackie Li Valued Member

    My bad :D
     
  9. KickChick

    KickChick Valued Member


    well I did ;)


    I've merged the 2 threads together deleting my post... Jackie beat me to it by several hours
     
  10. Slindsay

    Slindsay All violence is necessary

    I predict I will become really angry if I ever see this program. I'm sure they will come up with some pretty accurate results for what they are measuiring but then I seriuously doubt the way they btranslate that into fighting terms will be a bit suspect.

    Plus if MT doesn't win everything i'm going to cry.
     
  11. Uke3

    Uke3 New Member

    Thats all very well for Muay Thai, Karate, Capoera, Kempo, Kung fu, Thaing Bando, and various other art that focus on delivering massive amount of strength in various punches and kicks. ( Im not by any mean not implying that this is all there is in those art).

    But how can they test the efficacity of art like ju jitsu ( the aiki version), aikido, and other who rely on redirecting energy and other various usage of philosophy in their techniques instead of strenght, wich can make them as efficient IF correctly mastered and applied?
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    Ive seen Aiki masters that were like a one man army, but would probably score much lower than masters of other art in a scientific testing environment.
    I dont want here to start a discussion between the strenght of internal/external martial art, but i simply wonder if both are gonna be taken in consideration.
     
  12. MartzLand

    MartzLand New Member

    The Trailer Looks Awesome!

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owoY2_1hs38"]YouTube[/ame]

    I found this on YouTube. Check it out!
     
  13. Slindsay

    Slindsay All violence is necessary

    I'm not quite sure what I think of it but I have to admit the last line to that trailer is funny as hell, I won't spoil it for anyone though :D
     
  14. Looks entertaining.
     
  15. TheMightyMcClaw

    TheMightyMcClaw Dashing Space Pirate


    Well, they do have a ninjutsuka in there group. From what little I've done of each of them, Aikijujutsu and Ninjutsu seem to be pretty similar (lots of tai-sabaki and joint controls and other Japanese martial arts-ness). Also, this Obata Toshishiro guy sounds like he comes from a traditional jujitsu background, quite possibly Aiki or something similar.
    I don't think you'll have to worry about Japanese soft styles not being represented enough.
     
  16. Giles Wiley

    Giles Wiley New Member

  17. jules

    jules lurking bacteria

    while the idea is intresting, we have been discussing this in the ninjutsu forum .being the National Geographic we are really dissapointed that they decided to get their info from the back of a cornflake packet.
    pure cheese
     
  18. bassai

    bassai onwards and upwards ! Moderator Supporter

    Yeah, i read their veiw of karate and they managed to get from china to america without touching japan ! let alone okinawa.
    I'll probably still watch though.
     
  19. Moosey

    Moosey invariably, a moose Supporter

    ???

    That's surprising??!?
     
  20. Another Muay Thai Guy

    Another Muay Thai Guy Valued member

    I will watch this if I remember.

    I don't really see how that is surprising though. :confused:

    EDIT: Damn you moosey, beat me to it. :p
     
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