I was just watching our green belts do thier YUL - GOK pattern and I have to say that this is my favourite pattern. It is very gracfull mixed with precision and power. I thought it would be interesting to know what is your favourite pattern and why?
Not sure what pattern our 1st degrees do but that is my favorite becuase of the balance and split kick . It just looks very cool to me.
I just graded 2nd Dan, my choice pattern was Hwa Rang, I chose it because I'm quite good at turning kicks and it's a great pattern to show them off, and it flows really well too. I prefer Choong Moo, which I think is a really well balanced pattern, with an excellent mixture of combinations and moves. For first Dan patterns, I like Gae Beak best, for 2nd Dan patterns I'm not sure yet, I just passed 2nd Dan, the week before last so I only know Eui Am and 50% of Choong Jang. Juche is the third, I think that's the one with the Splits kick in it. ~Smokemare.
i think Juche is an awsome pattern when performed perfectly. a very cool pattern for individual competition. eh for team patterns i think Gae Bck works really well. i love watchin the irish team perform it with all the breaks/splits in it. for me personally where i am 1st kup em i like hwa-rang n choong moo. they both have excellent qualities to it. now hmm i supposed to organise a team pattern with either choog moo or hwa-rang. what best suits a demo?? any ideas welcome
Sajo Jirugi/ Chonji because of the throws, double factor parries and elbows, knees and counter-strikes that are in them. Lovely and evil.
Sajo Jirugi/ Chonji because of the throws, double factor parries and elbows, knees and counter-strikes that are in them. Lovely and evil.(a quote from further up this thread) Are they not....4 directional punch....and "heaven and earth"??? we are training for our upcoming belt grading, I'm going for my 6th gup. We have to do all the patterns each class Saju Jurugi.....Saju Magki....Chon-Ji.......Dan-gun......Do-san. I have never been taught to use elbows or such. Are you maybe thnking of another pattern or is this how a different afiliation does the patterns? I am ITF and we do ITF patterns, but because they want $150.00 / month for menberships we compete in GTF.
Hmmm, Saju Jirigi and Chon-ji didn't contain, "throws, double factor parries and elbows, knees and counter-strikes " last time I looked....?! Is this a WTF style version? Or an an alternative interpretation of the application of the existing techniques? Can you elaborate please mattsylvester ? ~Smokemare
My favourite pattern that I can do is Dan Gun - named after the legendary Dan Gun founder of Korea in the year 2333 BC. heheheheh.
I like how joong gunn looks. Dwitbal so sonbadak ollyo maki = great Palkup wi taerigi = brilliant And the slow sliding motion (for sonbadak nollyo mak) when perfromed correctly looks excellent. Hwa Rang also rocks.
I like doing the forms and I do all of them with a lot of attention to every detail. But if I had to choose then I would say the 7th and the forms done for 1st and 2nd Dan. check out the follwing thread where we have discussed favorite forms: http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8310&highlight=favorite+form
Won Hyo and Hwa Rang are my favourites up to now. They just feel good when doing them, so I perform better as I feel better!
chill jang is one of my favourite patterns.i think because the first stance is the cat stance,which is totally different to the first seven patterns!
Hiya, 1. Look harder. Look at how you move your legs forwards and backwards whilst in walking stance (if you use the crescent way of moving forward it's easier to see), compare this to a major outer reap from JJ, Hapkido etc. 2. If you hip twist and bring the hands to the side of your head for left low block (for example), examine how you move your left hand to your right side and use that movement to parry a punch. 3. Also, look at how your arm comes across in a hook-like movement (you then have the elbow). 4. Take 2, and then use the right hand to grab. You then have a double factor block with grab. Return this hand to the hip (as you would traditionally), and see how the opponent moves forward and how (if you've got their right hand) as they move forward and down, their head twitches so that they turn to the left, exposing their neck points. From there, simple do a 'lower outer forearm block' to their neck, or if they're tall, their ribs (this will look more like the traditional 'block'.) 5. If you were doing Do-San, against a right cross-hand grab for example, use the left hand coming across as either a distraction slap (SLAP, rather than slap of course) or just go straight for the block into their arm around the LI points (on the muscle just down from the elbow), rake down the arm to the chamber for the low block and you'll get the same movement in 4., then, just do a rising block into the side of their neck. It's cool. 6. If you were doing Sajo/Chonji, do the first block, step forward with the right hand as if you're punching and go into the lock found in the 4 corner throw. Shatter shoulder as required. 7. Examine how you walk. A step is a stamp is a knee is a kick. 8. Is this a WTF style version? HERESY! Nope, it's ITF. 9. Or an an alternative interpretation of the application of the existing techniques? Bingo. 10. Can you elaborate please mattsylvester ? The one most important thing to remember about the original patterns, is that they were a way of remembering a number of applications. Short hand in fact. Instead of doing the full move, quite often the move would be shortened just so that it acted as a prompt. For example. There are a lot of moves that don't really make sense when stood up but do when you're lying down. Obviously, performing a pattern where you have to lie down and stand up a lot is annoying. So, do the move standing up but thinking as if you're lying down. Bending ready stance for example. A great way to attack the thigh both on the inside and outside, and sp6 on the ankle. Lying down, good for the same again as well as attacking the calf of a standing attacker.
Hah! Yes, I did a seminar with master Willy Lim (Spelling?) Several years ago, he specialised in these alternative applications of techniques. I was impressed at the time, some of the examples he suggested I did't find wholly effective - but hey, that's martial arts, what works for one won't work for everyone eh? Like you say there are a few moves in there which really you have to question the classical interpretation of them. U - Shape block in Joong gun anyone? San Makgi in Toi Gye ? I don't like Chonji because if you accuracy is the slightest bit off, it will show up like a sore thumb. For a choice pattern the lowest I would choose is maybe Do San, I think there's more scope for artistic interpretation the higher you go - in fact you can see this if you look at different high ranking practicioners perforing the same high dan grade patterns. That's my opinion anyway. Smokemare
Mattsylvester, is this the sort of thing that people learn at higher levels of training? I'm only an 8th kup. Or are you saying that you teach this from the start? Do you mean like in Chon-Ji, the first move (move left leg out, turn/najaunde bakat palmok makgi) could be taken as taking someone's arm and throwing them over your leg? I guess the fact that I think of the down block as being used for a kick defense (what with it being a low section block in sajo jirugi/chonji)
If you're 8th kup you should consider concentrating on using the technique the obvious way for now. Any technique has various interpretations and applications though! Learning the patterns of Taekwon-do is like learning the alphabet, you might know about all these letters, but you still might not be able to write words. Smokemare
