Shoot fighting

Discussion in 'MMA' started by murphyg, Feb 12, 2004.

  1. murphyg

    murphyg Valued Member

    hi
    does anyone here do shoot fighting? if you do what does it include?
    cheers
     
  2. Sonshu

    Sonshu Buzz me on facebook

    Close to MMA type stuff now

    Its like Kickboxing and Wrestling. It did well in MMA - check out Ken Shamrock and Bart Vale as well on the nett they should give you an idea.

    Very simple and VERY effective.
     
  3. Andrew Green

    Andrew Green Member


    Ken Shamrock first made the name popular and kind of meant it as a generic term for MMA. Then Bart Vale trademarked it.

    So Shootfighting is Bart Vale's organization.

    But yes, Kickboxing + Wrestling / Jujitsu.
     
  4. murphyg

    murphyg Valued Member

    kl thanks fir ure help
     
  5. Adam

    Adam New Member

    What's the difference between MMA and shootfighting? No punches on the floor, any other differences?
     
  6. Trent Tiemeyer

    Trent Tiemeyer Valued Member

    "Shoot" fighting is a reference to a stiff, non-fixed pro-wrestling match. In the early days of professional catch-as-catch-can wrestling, fixed matches were referred to as "works", real fights as "shoots". The term is still used today, but found its way into the lexicon of mixed martial arts through Japan's Pancrase and Shooto organizations, who ran both real and fixed matches alongside eachother on their cards.

    Shootfighting just simply means "real" fighting. It doesn't refer to the style used so much as the format it is used under.
     
  7. Adam

    Adam New Member

    Aha. I thought it was referring to the shoot takedown. I learn something off MAP every day :)
     
  8. Trent Tiemeyer

    Trent Tiemeyer Valued Member

    More useless grappling knowledge:

    In collegiate wrestling, the takedown is referred to as a "shot", not a shoot. My wrestling buddies used to always rip my head off for calling it a shoot.

    Depends upon the context, I say.
     
  9. Grifter

    Grifter Edited by White Wizard

    Do they teach clinching, knees,and/or elbows??

    I know elbows arent allowed in comps but I was wondering if they teach them at all. And I didnt see anything about knees.


    Another question...Are schools that teach shootboxing pretty rare?? I dont remember ever seeing any in my area and there a wide variety of MA aorund here. So I was just curious because this seems like a style Id like.
     
  10. Andrew Green

    Andrew Green Member


    The shootfighting instructor I knew taught knees and elbows.

    Basically Shootfighting is MMA. It is Bart Vale's organization. Shootbox is Frank Shamrocks promotion.

    Basically they are all the same thing under different names.
     

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