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Old 21-Apr-2017, 02:58 PM
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Hmm, I am now not sure if I understand well and also remember well the data I read about. I am not too knowledgeable in physiology, but: The inbreeding would be a different topic, I think.
Not inbreeding INTERbreeding. Interbreeding would mean that no matter what color hair you've got, it doesn't necessarily match up to other genes.

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It doesn't matter what other genes you got from your ancestors, only the genes for melanin production matters. And those you would see in the coloration or person's hair, eyes, skin. The production of melanin should have a relationship with some of the personality traits by itself via hormones, regardless of other genes (though I hope I remember well).
Not really, there's also the receptors for hormones that are genetically controlled. Hence you can have situations in which a person has XY chromosomes but develops as phenotypically female.

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On the other hand, this would only be some influence, not the only thing determining personality.
Do you think your personality changes when you tan?
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Old 21-Apr-2017, 03:05 PM
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Do you think your personality changes when you tan?
People who go into tanning salons do tend to be a bit deficient in the grey matter department. Correlation or causation? Hmmmm???
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Yeah, I think you're making some rather substantial leaps of logic that aren't grounded in fact. This sounds like another form of phrenology; you've got a lumpy head so we can make some leaps about what sort of person you're more likely to be.
Ok, maybe I am not the best at explaining, but I have obviously written enough If you are bored sometime, read some papers about melanin and personality/behavioural syndromes. I am sure the explanation of what I was trying to say, including the underlying mechanisms there will be explained there better. It actually can be quite an interesting read
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Do you think your personality changes when you tan?
Weirdly, it changes more when you fake tan
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Ok, maybe I am not the best at explaining, but I have obviously written enough If you are bored sometime, read some papers about melanin and personality/behavioural syndromes. I am sure the explanation of what I was trying to say, including the underlying mechanisms there will be explained there better. It actually can be quite an interesting read
I have. They seem a better revival of scientific racism than substance.
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Ok, maybe I am not the best at explaining, but I have obviously written enough If you are bored sometime, read some papers about melanin and personality/behavioural syndromes. I am sure the explanation of what I was trying to say, including the underlying mechanisms there will be explained there better. It actually can be quite an interesting read
All I could find was mention of a 1970's study about differences in motor function between eye colours that extrapolated those findings to make general statements about personality differences and attribute them to melanin content in the eyes. Then some dodgy questionnaire work based on those findings.

Then I found some blatantly racist stuff made to look like a scientific paper that compared imprisonment rates of different ethnic groups without controlling for any other factor.

All pretty dodgy stuff

https://research-repository.griffith...pdf?sequence=1

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...91886912000840
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Yeah that's the one I read. My jaw dropped open, lol.
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Anyway, sorry to see the deadly cameltoe has been banned.

Hopefully one day he will overcome his internal confusion and rage, then find a nice African or Arab man to settle down with in a loving sexual relationship
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Good rebuttal: http://blogs.bluebec.com/racism-masq...ng-as-science/
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Oh, ok, that is not what I meant. I don't have my university's access to papers anymore, but it's probably read the animal studies or general vertebrate ones, like:

In vertebrates, melanin-based coloration is often associated with variation in physiological and behavioural traits. We propose that this association stems from pleiotropic effects of the genes regulating the synthesis of brown to black eumelanin. The most important regulators are the melanocortin 1 receptor and its ligands, the melanocortin agonists and the agouti-signalling protein antagonist. On the basis of the physiological and behavioural functions of the melanocortins, we predict five categories of traits correlated with melanin-based coloration. A review of the literature indeed reveals that, as predicted, darker wild vertebrates are more aggressive, sexually active and resistant to stress than lighter individuals. Pleiotropic effects of the melanocortins might thus account for the widespread covariance between melanin-based coloration and other phenotypic traits in vertebrates.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18644658

or: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21300052

I won't argue about the physiology. I am not good with it and forgot the principles behind this.
Unfortunatelly, the fulltext can't be apparently downloaded for free, but at least the abstract explains what I had trouble explaining. Very roughly
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Right, but you're still trying to map those conclusions onto human beings which... I mean, yeah doesn't really hold water.
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Thread locked because CamelSpider is gone, and there was too much incomprehensible gibberish ("you're as horizontal and vertical as the book" ????), and there were some TOS issues.

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