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Old 21-Dec-2016, 03:58 PM
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Going to be competing in my first "outside" tournament

I have wanted to do this for years!

I have been doing MA's for over 12 years now. And I do my school's tournament every year. I also go to my GM's tournament when I can afford it. But I have never done a open tournament- one outside my school's federation. And I have really wanted to. I think it would be a great learning experience. That is my motivation.

A few instructors recently went to the Las Vegas tournament. They did very well. (Check out the category second up from the bottom of this page, look for the instructor of our Sifu Don Tittle. They are also listed in other areas. I can't find a listing for the combatives, but they did well there too.http://www.kungfuchampionship.com/ra...HandForms.html )

It's coming to L.A. About a week before our school's tournament. So I will already be in tournament preparation mode, so I am going to do it! I am already doing the prep, why not just add a tournament into the mix?

Unfortunately, there does not seem to be a lot of interest among fellow students to get a group going. I was hoping for that, but I am not going to be dissuaded.

What I want most of all, is to test my push hands skills against people trained differently. The rules are a bit different, but the instructors that went can help me with that as I prepare. And the ability to adapt is part of what I want to test.

So, what I really hope for from my fellow MAPpers is some advice. I have never done an open tournament, so I have some ideas from here what to expect, but not totally.

Any advice will be appreciated.

I am planning on doing a CLF hand and weapon form. A TCC hand and weapon form, and the two types of push hands. I am not going to do the CLF sparring as they allow head contact and I just can't risk a head injury/ concussion. I need to work, I need to drive home to San Diego from L.A., go to my school's tournament the week after AND I am slowly getting ready for my CLF black sash test.

So far, I am planning on doing Small Five Animal for my CLF hand form. My instructor and I are going to decide between the butterfly knives and the Broadsword weapon form. I really don't want to have to carry a long weapon up to L.A.

For the TCC, I am leaning towards the 40 for my hand form. I want to do the 48 combination, but am concerned they won't like that as it mixes up elements from other styles. So I thought it best to do a strictly Yang style form. No Fajing, as some people do not understand that Yang style DOES have fajing. It is a comm on misperception about Yang style and I don't want any judge to mistakenly misjudge me based on that. Leaning towards the 54 Gim as my weapon form, Still haven't talked to my TCC teacher about this though. I will.

Please, I am excited and nervous, and could really use advice about doing this. I hope to hear from anyone here, but Ben Gash, I particularly want to hear from you for obvious reasons.

Oh, this is the tournament. So people have a frame of reference for what I am going to be doing. http://www.kungfuchampionship.com/los-angeles/
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Old 21-Dec-2016, 04:47 PM
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Treat it like any other comp you have been in.
The venue and people are different but the moves and mentality is the same.

Dont overwhelm yourself by blowing it out of proportion unecessarily.

Saying that. Kick bottom and take names!

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Old 21-Dec-2016, 05:18 PM
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Exactly what Mushroom has said - Neither the nature of the tournament nor its venue detract from what you already know, or how you already train. You are in a fantastic position, wherein it would be completely impossible for you to come away from the experience empty handed, whether that'll mean insight gained, or even possibly something shinier, is all just gravy. Take the opportunity while it is there, learn what you can from it, and be sure to open a few eyes of your own whilst you are there.

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Old 21-Dec-2016, 11:01 PM
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Good luck Aaradia !

It's a good move to take yourself out of your regular surroundings and cross hands with other schools/styles.
My advice would be make sure you're familiar with the rules and scoring etc. check the size of the matt area, prepare with some extra cardio ( even fixed ph can be surprisingly draining ) and if you can't get a training partner to compete and prepare alongside you , take some friendly support - preferably one of your instructors/sifus.

Look forward to hearing of your success !
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Well, the tournament is tomorrow! Today, I am going to pack up all I need, take it easy, and make myself go to bed early.

I leave ungodly early to drive up to Pasadena.

I am nervous and excited!
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Old 28-Apr-2017, 05:40 PM
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Old 28-Apr-2017, 10:26 PM
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Hope it goes well! This will be a great thing to learn from and to prepare your mind for your other tournament.
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Old 29-Apr-2017, 09:51 AM
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Well, here is my report of my adventure. The good and the bad.

Part 1 -

First up was the start of a theme that was disappointing in the tournament. I hate to start negative, but it is what it is. The organization, or lack thereof, was an eye opener. I mean no knock on the organizers, as they put in hard volunteer hours to make this event happen.

But my first event had me in my own division - which was really disappointing. I was the only one in advanced Yang TCC hand forms 36 and over. The web site says divisions may be merged to make enough competitors, but throughout the tournament, this was not the case. At one point, they had 4 people go, each one in their own division as the only person. I am sorry but that did not impress me at all. A tournament to me suggests COMPETITION! Why they didn't combine my division with younger people is beyond me. Or maybe men's and women's divisions. I understand why they separate men and women in sparring, but in forms it didn't make much sense to me.

Anyways, I wasn't too happy with my performance anyways on this one. It seems like a small thing, but I wasn't used to carpet and it affected me. Shouldn't have let a small thing like that get to me. Now, that probably means I dragged my foot when I shouldn't and I get away with it on the hard floors or smooth mats at my school. But my foot caught and I was a little wobbly at the start. I settled into it after about 30 seconds to a minute, but those little things in advanced divisions can affect ones score.

Both my instructors recently have commented on how I seem to start slow when doing tournament or test performances, and that I need to work on starting out of the gate faster. And I really saw that here.

So, working on starting full skill right off the bat with no warming up and not dragging my feet were the lessons learned.

Score was low. Got gold, but it doesn't count as it was a participation gold as I had no one else to compete against.

Second event was my TCC weapon form- long gim. I should mention that the TCC forms were to be between 3 minutes and 3 minutes and 30 seconds long.

I learned quickly from my first event and did not drag my feet. I actually felt pretty good about my performance, but still got a low score. After watching the other scores of other competitors in all sorts of divisions, I didn't mind as I think the judges were scoring TCC favoring the non-martial aspects of a form. I saw a lot of beautiful looking TCC that just wasn't martial. If that doesn't make sense, and anyone wants me to, I can explain that. That is what happens in an open tournament, the focus of the judging may not be what your school teaches.I hope this isn't coming across as a complaint, because I didn't mind.And there was a time in the past at my GM's tournament where I won a medal, but didn't think it counted due to the way it was judged. I do think I am pretty fair and even handed in my evaluations. I am good at stepping back. And it was watching other divisions, not how I was scored that made me just think the judging criteria just isn't the same as what is emphasized at my school. .

Pfft. Two competitors and I technically got silver. Again- doesn't count if I am last or the only person. Again, I wish they combined divisions to make a decent sized division.

No medals that count in my book. Felt good about one form, the other one re-emphasized things to work on that my instructors have told me. Good new experience to have under my belt.

All the day I am looking at two or three rings as my divisions were up at the same time. Eh, I have done that at my school's tournaments before.

That is my TCC forms report. Next the Kung Fu forms divisons.
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Old 01-May-2017, 01:41 AM
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Part 2.

I did a round or two of push hands and checked on the status of my Advanced traditional hand forms - 36 and over division. They said I was up.

A tournament modified small five animal form. I actually messed up a couple of times with the sequence. But still I felt good about it, the execution of the moves I was mostly happy with, my martial intention felt good too and my stances I think were decent. My school, especially my instructor, has drilled how to fake when you mess up- to not show it in your face or body language. To make a moment of doubt about the next move look like an intended pause for dramatic affect. While I wasn't happy about messing up the sequence, I WAS happy with how I dealt with it.

LOL! It is an open tournament, I don't think any of the judges knew the form. So they didn't even know the sequence was wrong!

I was shocked to hear some really high scores! Super high!

I got silver and there were 4 competitors. So, that medal counted in my mind as actually earned.

Lessons learned. That training in handling mistakes really works! I mean, I have seen it work in my school's tournaments too.

Also, I didn't have time to think about the form. I had to jump in without thinking and I did pretty good, despite the mistakes. This has happened to me in previous tournaments too. It is tied into the thing my instructors say about me overthinking things and it showing in my forms. How to control that. How to let go with my OCD brain. If I can figure it out it will make my martial arts look better. But how is the tricky part.

Ran back and did more push hands. But I will talk about that in my next post.

Ran back here and did the Bot Gwa Butterfly knives form. Didn't mess up the sequence. Felt like it went pretty well. There is some footwork in there in a couple of spots that still feel awkward to me, but overall I was happy with it. Scores reflected that too. Pretty high, not quite as high as the hand form, but pretty darn high.

Got silver, but it was again a second of two people. So it didn't count. I saw a bit of the first place winner and she was really good.

Nothing in particular learned for this one. Just overall experience in performing in a new environment.

So, that is my forms report.

1 silver that counted. Happy with my both my performances, although not perfect.

I'll post abut my push hands events next.
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Old 01-May-2017, 01:47 AM
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Sounds like lots of personal lessons learned, which is great. I've also struggled to adapt to different flooring. Shame you didn't have more people to compete against but sadly this is normal with many MA tournaments. Overall, a great day for personal MA development though . Congrats.
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