And actually...I think one of Karl's main points is incorrect. He says that because boxing gloves force the thumb forwards (rather than wrapping across the fingers) boxers are forced to hit unsupported (or at a poor angle) because they jam the thumb otherwise. But I put my gloves on last night and had a few goes on my punch bag and found that not to be the case. The boxing glove does compromise how you can form a fist but found my thumb was positioned at more on an angle and so didn't stick out like in Karl's video. The inch of padding also brings the striking surface forward of the knuckles (although that will compress when hitting). I could land on the bag with a variety of knuckles or angles without much bother. And this was without any wraps, tape, gauze or additional padding underneath the gloves which brings the striking surface forward even more. So while gloves of all sorts change the way you can form a fist I don't think boxers have to compromise in the way Karl says they do.
Well, if you're pulling the fist back in a preparatory movement, I'd say you're not doing a one-inch punch. That's ok Karl, we all have our weaknesses
I find this guy very hit-and-miss, but I like his explanation of the one-inch punch: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiFvT_Y1KaY&index=32&list=UUjpm-KeOzsc0k_ZwpouV6Ww"]WHAT JKD's INCH PUNCH SHOULD TEACH - YouTube[/ame]
From Richard Bustillo [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7qR8NMLs3s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7qR8NMLs3s[/ame]
GM Bustillo was/is a feared fighter for good reason! Singh met up with him a few weeks ago and said he was one of the nicest guys you could ever hope to meet, but there is a steel in his eyes. Lee Banda, my old instructor, is under Richard in the UK
Not the one inch punch but a great demonstration of short power by Taira Masaji Sensei. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufuJUdLqBok"]Taira Sensei Makiwara - YouTube[/ame]
Lee could've just had that gift of being a hard puncher... there's guys in boxing... many of them actually who can punch pretty hard, but then there are those who have the gift of just having that concussive power. Heavy handed... whatever you want to call it.
That is actually a good point (Ernie Shavers anyone?) but in Bruce's case it was all his methodology and linked to his CMA
Judging by the profile .GIF, the high seas? Arrrggghhh. This thread has been a hoot. When, "boxers don't have punching right" is said, you know it's a gem.
I've actually been a good boy with this thread. When Karl posted all those "this is how boxers punch and why it's wrong" videos I almost jumped in with both feet. Especially that boxers punch with their thumbs up one. Although Ali would jab like that his goal was to thumb you in the eye. But then I noticed there were several posters, while being polite, kept throwing him a shovel each time he stopped digging that hole he was in. Well played.
As far as that fight science stuff, I'd be very weary about the results. I know that science is science, but the numbers can be skewed by the slightest thing. For instance IIRC Bas punched something like 900 or so ft lbs? Ricky Hatton's punching power was also measured on a heavy bag, he broke the sensor and analysis of it came up with 882 lbs. He was a 140 lb fighter... how heavy is Bas? Which data is skewed then? "Scientists tried to measure the punching power of boxing world champion Ricky Hatton - but The Hitman's near half-ton punch broke the equipment. Researchers initially thought Hatton was packing a right-hand with 1,500kg (3,307lb) of force behind it. But a re-analysis of the data found the figure was about 400kg (882lb) - still 10 times that of an average person. "The level of force he generated was quite astonishing," said Dr Qingming Li of the University of Manchester team. Hatton's fastest effort was clocked in at 32mph (51km/h) - a left hook that he has used to floor 30 of his 42 opponents. His average punching speed was measured out at 25mph (40km/h) - giving opponents less than one tenth of a second to move out of the way. Bag sensors The results show the power and speed that await Hatton's next opponent, Jose Castillo, in their IBO light welterweight clash in Las Vegas on Saturday. Hatton, 28, from Hattersley, Greater Manchester, said: "It was great working with the experts and the technology, and for me it was really interesting to see just how fast and hard I can hit. "It was my first visit to the University of Manchester and I was impressed with the facilities there." The Hitman was put through his paces by a team of impact engineers from the university's School of Mechanical, Aerospace and Civil Engineering (MACE). Ricky Hatton monitors the results Hatton interrupted his training schedule to take part Dr Li worked with biomechanics equipment specialist Biosense Medical Ltd to gauge the strength and speed of Hatton's best shots. Sensors attached to a 30kg (66lb) Lonsdale punch bag wired up to a laptop containing software to measure and analyse the data. Hatton was asked to step up and pound the bag - and the force caused an initial malfunction in the sensor. Engineers used alternative data and looked at previous studies to prove that Hatton hit the target with an instantaneous force of 400kg (882lb) - approaching half a US ton. A US ton - or short ton - equals 2,000lb (907.19kg). Measuring the forces applied in football studies, the team also worked out that Hatton's average punching force is more than twice the kicking force of a Premier League footballer. Dr Li added: "It was certainly a very different project from the type we usually work on, but it does demonstrate the expertise and versatility we have within the department." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6228040.stm
I'm confused. What are you saying? How you measure this stuff is important and different equipment will get different results, but results on the same equipment under the same protocols will be largely consistent, particularly if repeated and averaged.
