To kick it off: http://weeklysift.com/2014/08/11/not-a-tea-party-a-confederate-party/ Because the feminist thread got derailed and hell: STIR THAT POT! edit: Doesn't necessarily have to be US, that's just what I can comfortably talk about.
Yup, North didn't win the civil war, South quickly became a terrorist dominated region that oppressed black people and put them into de facto slavery, history continues to dominate and inform American political dialogue and race relations. But because we have a black president, racism is over... Kidding. It's actually not that long, just a ton of comments.
He's applying the racial positive discrimination logic to classes. White people have built a wealth on the work of other white people as in the lord-serf system. What then?
I don't want to derail this thread, so punch me in the back of the head if this isn't related. Do you think "white privilege" is predominantly a US phenomenon?
White privilege is a thing in basically every country with a majority white population and in many with significant minority white population.
Yeah, I can definitely see the logic in that. By the same token, we can see discrimination happening today and, often, modern racism is couched in a kind of cultural critique. We have avenues available for white ascension through the classes while I don't think black people have that avenue as open to them. The fact that black folks are still targeted, blatantly, for racially based oppression is pretty heinous and in my mind validates the extra measures to combat them. As I've said though, I can't really speak to conditions in Britain. I think that any claims about America being classless are bankrupt though, so maybe the same critique holds true.
What are you trying to do to me, philo? I've already given myself a moratorium on posting in the feminism thread until June (if it goes that long), and then you go and start this? I'm supposed to be TAing and writing! May give the article a read and give a brief comment this weekend.
I kinda think it would be cool to just divide everything equally between every inhabitant of the planet Earth. What?
True. So let me rephrase: Is it fair to say the US is most vocal about it, or opposition to it is more visible in the US, because of its civil rights history?
Your not discriminated against for being white, and neither were anyone in your previous family tree who is still alive. There's people alive today who were discriminated against, and there's people alive today who's parents were slaves. (US) When it comes to being poor, that's unrestrained liberal capitalism for you. If you don't think k that's right, socialism is what you need to look at. Which is what my point about equality, private schools and tax was about.
Everything I know about modern gypsies I learned from the movie Snatch; how much reading do I have ahead of me?
The gadjos might be considered fair game, but centuries of fierce discrimination might have something to do with that...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiziganism http://www.spiegel.de/international...from-discrimination-and-poverty-a-942057.html http://ec.europa.eu/justice/discrimination/roma/index_en.htm http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-over-here-not-stealing-our-jobs-8489097.html http://enarireland.org/anti-traveller-racism-pervasive-and-deep-rooted/ That should get you started
That would depend on whether they used to behave as they do now? Although I'm not talking about Romanian gypsies but Irish