Palhares VS Tonon, sub only

Discussion in 'Brazilian Jiu Jitsu' started by Dead_pool, Feb 7, 2016.

  1. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    Its going down on polaris 3 in the UK, the ''hormonally advantaged'', rainman of hurting people vs the most exciting blackbelt called Garry I know of -

    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4fxKjQbuFs"]Garry Tonon vs Rousimar Toquinho Palhares - POLARIS 3 Trailer - YouTube[/ame]


    Garrys instagram has a lot of video of him training specifically to avoid Palhare's speciallities -

    https://www.instagram.com/garrytonon/



    so who have you got to win and why? I think garry will grind out a win on points!


    edit - if you dont know palhares -

    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7b-_D66iMI"]Rousimar Palhares MMA jiu jitsu Highlight 2015 - YouTube[/ame]


    Mod edit: Warning, NSFW language

    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrOtTio2cAs"]Joe Lauzon analyzes Rousimar Palhares holding onto submissions too long - YouTube[/ame]
     
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  2. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Ambulance on standby......
     
  3. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    its literally Kill or be Killed with Paul Haris -

    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FohRibjEbgI"]ADCC 2011 Rousimar Palhares vs David Avellan - Heel hook restart - YouTube[/ame]
     
  4. PointyShinyBurn

    PointyShinyBurn Valued Member

    Polaris is sub only.
     
  5. aaradia

    aaradia Choy Li Fut and Yang Tai Chi Chuan Student Moderator Supporter

    I don't understand why Palhares is being allowed to compete in any competition at this point.
     
  6. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    Sarcastic Ironic irony was ironically sarcastic!

    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko5481Tyc58"]BJJ Scout: Garry Tonon Study (Updated post Metamoris 4) - YouTube[/ame]

    Garry is well known for seeking out positions that are worthless as ''points''

    and I doubt Paul Haris can count past, One, two, many.
     
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2016
  7. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    Ticket sales and machismo.


    Eddie Bravo and Joe Rogan talking about it -

    warning - bad language from the start, also eddie seems to be very tired, or suffering from smoke inhalation, cough cough.

    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS2u9mluLjo&feature=youtu.be"]Joe Rogan talking about Garry Tonon vs Toquinho - YouTube[/ame]
     
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2016
  8. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

    My legs feel in danger just knowing Paul Harris will be on the same continent as me. A genuinely scary fellow.
     
  9. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

    Why is it in Poole though!?
     
  10. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    Because not everything has to be in London all the time.

    Also I imagine cost.
     
  11. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

    also because he is one of the top grapplers in the world and always goes for a finish...and well people like to see that

    And whilst on occasion he has held the submission, a little long shall we say, on a few occasions its the refs fault not his, i was taught to keep the sub on until the ref breaks it NOT let it go when your opponent taps, indeed my second comp vitor estima was refing and had a go at me for letting a sub go after my opponent had tapped but before he had seen it

    refs need to be on the ball with him
     
  12. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    Tonon made short work of Imanari, who's a notorious leg breaker. Admittedly Palhares is a fair bit bigger than Imanari.
     
  13. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

    Perfectly good basketball halls at local schools near me :p
     
  14. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    R.I.P someone's ankles.
     
  15. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

    My knee aches just thinking that Paul Harris is going to be on the same land mass.
     
  16. rabid_wombat

    rabid_wombat Valued Member

    I don't care for Palhares at all, and I'm honestly shocked that any promotion picked him up.

    That being said, he is undeniably talented and has a significant strength and a slight weight advantage. That combination is going to really be tough to overcome.

    I am pulling for Tonon by heelhook though.

    Is there a possibility for a draw in Polaris?
     
  17. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    There's a difference between not letting go early, and cranking a heel hook untill the ref has to hand fight you in order to stop any more damage occurring.

    Do you think the eye gouging is the refs fault too?
     
  18. Korpy

    Korpy Whatever Works

    I am definitely pulling for Tonon. I think he has a much more fluid and varied leg lock game. I think he will surprise a lot of people.
     
  19. icefield

    icefield Valued Member


    There's also a difference between doing something illegal under the rules and doing something legal but morally questionable i thought you would have known that?

    A better example would be do i think its the refs fault if a fighter is unconscious and another fighter is stood over him using him as a punch bag until he has to be lifted off the guy? yes the ref didn't step in in time to stop the fight

    The guy might be doing something I don't agree with, but its the refs job to protect the other fighter not his
     
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2016
  20. rabid_wombat

    rabid_wombat Valued Member

    Some of Palhares' behavior could fall into the categories of disregarding the official (this isn't professional wrestling you don't get a 5 count to obey), and unsportsmanlike conduct. Both of which are generally defined in the UFC rules and regulations as fouls. Although they need more specific language added.

    Despite this, if he wasn't doing something wrong, he wouldn't have been cut for doing it.
     

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