does JKD have a sparring?

Discussion in 'Jeet Kune Do' started by musikah, Nov 28, 2012.

  1. musikah

    musikah New Member

    i know wing chun that i used to go(10 classes) dont have sparring, just wondering about jkd? and if yes? is it with protective gear? im about to enroll to jkd any advice would be appreciated
    thanks guys
     
  2. Combat Sports

    Combat Sports Formerly What Works Banned

    In my opinion considering how much emphasis was put on sparring in "Tao of Jeet Kune Do" you would think that it would. But this all depends on the instructor and their situation.

    You have to understand that there are liability issues when it comes to sparring and lawyers out there who specialize in finding excuses to sue people.

    This is unfortunate. Because I think that not sparring is itself a liability.
     
  3. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    The high school Kung Fu class that I attended didn't have sparring. It didn't stop those who loved sparring to stay and sparred after the class. If you enjoy sparring, there is no way that your instructor can stop you.

    Whether a MA system has sparring or not is not the issue. The issue is whether you want to do it outside of your class or not.
     
    Last edited: Nov 28, 2012
  4. musikah

    musikah New Member

    thanks guys, im not into sparring but maybe is just nice to have a light spar sometimes:) for experienced
     
  5. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    JKD as a rule absolutely SHOULD have sparring of some form; now the exact can vary from school to school but there has to be pressure testing of some kind. Without that you are simply not learning a system of combat you are just doing phys ed
     
  6. pinklady6000

    pinklady6000 Banned Banned

    Stolen by Bruce lee from Jack Dempsey: "Training has two objectives: (1) to condition your body for fighting, and (2) to improve your workmanship as a fighter.
    Although some exercises help condition and others speed improvement, there's one all-important activity that assists both. That activity is sparring.
    THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR SPARRING. You must spar regularly and often to becom
    e a well-rounded scrapper, regardless of what other exercises you may take.
    Sparring not only improves your skill, but it also conditions your body for fighting by forcing your muscles to become accustomed to the violent, broken movements that distinguish fighting from any other activity."
     
  7. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    So how often do you spar then?
     
  8. pinklady6000

    pinklady6000 Banned Banned

    I spar all the time in the mirror. Sometimes when I put my make-up on.
     
  9. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    So none

    Not tellingme anything to didn't already know of course
     
  10. PointyShinyBurn

    PointyShinyBurn Valued Member

    This is fairly terrible advice. Using the right intensity, trying the right things, working through the roadblocks are skills that have to be coached. People "doing a bit of sparring" who don't know them will absolutely 100% of the time either end up playing tag or in a mindless brawl.
     
  11. Knee Rider

    Knee Rider Valued Member Supporter

    Shadow boxing or practicing in front of a mirror is very different from sparring though. Sparring and resistance work develop things that those activities don't even touch... Which is why there is no substitute for it.
     
  12. Knee Rider

    Knee Rider Valued Member Supporter

    It's not optimal but then neither is studying an art that doesn't include pressure in its training.

    It might be less beneficial for skill development without coaching, it has the potential to be less safe; but it's not a terrible idea IMO.
     
  13. PointyShinyBurn

    PointyShinyBurn Valued Member

    I was responding to this, really
    which suggests that playing grab-ass with your friends is an adequate substitute for actual coaching.

    While it's possible to get a bit better at fighting by this method, I don't see any reason you'd want to adopt it unless you're stuck on a desert island with one Shotokan school.
     
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  14. Knee Rider

    Knee Rider Valued Member Supporter

    Uuurgh can you imagine :cry:

    Fair point! Agree.
     
  15. pinklady6000

    pinklady6000 Banned Banned

    Dear, Knee Rider: I have sparred in the past, quite freqently. I got to the position where I could not be beaten. Sparring is a phase one goes through and one comes out the other side. Both me and bruce lee arrived at this point or level, from then on one just sharpens the tools. If I did sparring now I would still win but the efficiency would be higher.
    pink lady
     
  16. Knee Rider

    Knee Rider Valued Member Supporter

    You wrote this (essentially) in the other thread. I replied there. But I will paste it here in a sec.

    Here:

    Sparring is a constant not a phase. If you don't spar how do you sharpen and maintain the core skills which sparring develops? Do you think shadow boxing ( working out in the mirror) is the same as sparring? If so why?
     
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  17. PointyShinyBurn

    PointyShinyBurn Valued Member

    I am pretty vulnerable to troll bait, but you have to try bit harder than this.
     
  18. Garrywater

    Garrywater Banned Banned

    We tend to have two sparring sessions during a lesson.
     
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2016

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