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Old 18-Feb-2007, 09:20 PM
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tension between chinese, korean, japanese styles?

To those who lived in China, Korea or Japan and/or are familiar enough about the relationship between the martial arts styles in these countries:

Given the tension between these countries, especially hard feelings that still remain from WWII what is the level of tension between the martial arts styles?

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What if a Korean in Korea chooses to study Karate over Taekwondo?
What if a Japanese in Japan chooses Hapkido over Aikido?

Would these people feel marginalized because of their decisions? Would they even find a school that teaches their preferred style?
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Interesting questions. Of course, I have no idea what the answers are, having never lived in China, Korea or Japan.
Interesting. Most interesting.
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Strangely the vast majority of schools in China are Taekwondo schools.
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Old 19-Feb-2007, 03:36 AM
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Very oddly worded questions!
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To those who lived in China, Korea or Japan and/or are familiar enough about the relationship between the martial arts styles in these countries:

Given the tension between these countries, especially hard feelings that still remain from WWII what is the level of tension between the martial arts styles?
There is no tension between styles. People cause tension.

The people who gravitate towards certain styles may have certain general characteristics:

Aikido people do tend to believe that 'one world' stuff that O Sensei was into in later life.

I was at a demo of Higaonna (Goju Ryu), Kanazawa (Shotokan) and Ikeda (Okinawan Shorinji) the other day and they all acknowledged the (Chinese and Okinawan - and don't forget Okinawa is regarded as a different country by most Okinawans and many Japanese, in terms of spirit if not politically) history of their arts and the one-ness of the budo michi.

Kyokushin tends to attract a lot of straight-up thugs, gangsters or yamato-damashi spouting rightwingers, but I've met a lot of nice ones too. Kendo too attracts a lot of people who rue the loss of the spirit of budo and yearn after bygone days. Among those will be some who hanker after the imperialism too.

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What if a Japanese in Japan chooses Hapkido over Aikido?
What if? For a start, I don't know of any hapkido in Japan.

Martial arts over here are generally ignored, same as in the west! The number of people who are into the MA are more than the west and it's more accepted than the west but the general populace don't care.

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Would these people feel marginalized because of their decisions?
No. Who would find out? Who would care about fringe hobbies anyway?! I know many people who care about the history of budo because I move in those circles, but I know just as many people who see them as freaks! If you do a foreign MA, I reckon the chances are you're less likely to be viewed as a freak because you're obviously just a hobbyist and don't care about all the anachronistic claptrap.

But mostly you're vastly overestimating everyone. Most people I've spoken to over here really don't know any difference between karate (a foreign art) and kung fu (a foreign art)... they can probably tell you they are linked, and that kung fu is Chinese. Otherwise they don't know or care! I've even had the same thing with karate and aikido!

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Would they even find a school that teaches their preferred style?
There are lots of Chinese schools over here. I also know of at least one well-reputed taekwondo school.

The availability of these arts has nothing to do with prejudice and everything to do with marketability in a saturated market.
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