Forms, difficult or easy?

[tkdextra1]

Just a few weeks ago my instructors showed me Yul-Gok. I've been practicing alot, and usually by this time the BB's are showing me lots of things in my form that I need to work on.
Last night, I only had one small thing corrected, and one of the instructors told me that I almost had it down pat! Plus this one seem really easy.
Anyone else had a for that seemed really easy to them when they first learned it?

[Jamesy]

Don't think I have really struggled on any of the patterns so far. Wait till you do your next pattern it's the hardest pattern that I have learn't so far.

[tkdally]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

Don't think I have really struggled on any of the patterns so far. Wait till you do your next pattern it's the hardest pattern that I have learn't so far.

Yeah, Joong-Gun is nasty but then you get onto Toi-Gye and Hwa-Rang and things don't seem so bad.

[tkdally]

[QUOTE=tkdextra1]Last night, I only had one small thing corrected, and one of the instructors told me that I almost had it down pat!QUOTE]

Well done. Now is the time to start working on power - making sure you've got maximum hip twist, good acceleration into techniques, body drop with big chambers. There's always something to work on!

I'm lucky that patterns come very naturally to me so within a few weeks of learning it I've got it "down pat" and from then on it's power, power, power. You can never have too much in my opinion but be careful not to let the technique slip - I know a few people that do that and their patterns suffer for it. It is a fine line though.

If you're good at patterns get out there and enter the competitions. A lot of people shy away from patterns in favour of sparring so the divisions can sometimes be very small. Good in that you stand more chance of getting a trophy but bad in that there isn't much "competition".

[xxblackkatxx]

I've basically been pretty fluid in learning my tul... my instructors would teach half of it to me one day and keep drilling me with it, and then the next day they'd teach me the second half of it and keep drilling me with it, and then the day after that they'd make me do it all over and over and over again and I'd know it perfectly (in terms of what movement comes next) by then. After that, just like tkdally said, I work on my power and prime my technique.

The pattern that came the easiest for me, though, was probably choong-moo.
And Joong-gun is a rather challenging tul... lots of sets of moves that are a little funky at first (kinda like the first three moves in won-hyo... they felt so weird for me at first), and new stances and just... wooo, a party when it comes to learning it and getting it right ^^

Good luck on your tul, keep it up!
-Kat

[HwaRang]

Joong Gun was actually my favourite pattern, came easy to me.
But for some starnge reason I can't quite get my head round Choong Moo. Maybe because most of the movements are similar to all the rest of the patterns so I'm always drifting off into Yul-Gol or Toi-Gye.

[TKDMitch]

I've had some that I've found easy to get the basic moves for right.

Later, I've actually started learning them properly.

Still later I realise I was doing them wrong all along and alter them again.

At each stage in my TKD career, I seem to be working on something specific with regards to technique; hip twist, chambers, different motions, whatever.

So, at each stage, I go back and revisit every pattern and find something in it which needs altering in some way.

So some patterns "come easy" in terms of remembering the sequence (Ko Dang seems to have been relatively painless just recently), but every pattern needs constant re-evaluation: surely no blue belt wants to do Chon Ji the way they did when they were a yellow belt?

Mitch

PS: Joong Gun is, in many ways, where the fun begins, as many have said. Blue belt is senior student after all!

[Jamesy]

For me in Joong Gun its the Palm block at the beginning that gets me it looks ok so I have been told it just feels really weird.

[Leo_E_49]

Koryo (WTF) came easiest to me, it suits my style of TKD, concealing intentions, deceptive and cunning. If I could do TKD perfectly any way I wanted, I'd match Koryo's form.

[Rob T.]

I found the moves in Hwa Rang easy for some reason, I learnt them in about an hour.

I've just spent the next 8 years trying to perform them well!

Rob

[Ragnarok2005]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

For me in Joong Gun its the Palm block at the beginning that gets me it looks ok so I have been told it just feels really weird.

Could be because it's a strike?

[Jamesy]

NO its an upward block???

[xxblackkatxx]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

NO its an upward block???

it's definately a palm upward block, but remember that there's a difference between just a "palm block" and a "palm UPWARD block". It's essentially the same blocking tool, just a different way of going about blocking.

The thing Ragnarok is talking about... well actually, that bit's a block, not a strike(if he is, in fact, reffering to the first movement of the tul). At least that's the way I learned it, that's the way it's said in the condensed encyclopedia ("1. Move the left foot to B forming a right L-stance toward B while executing a middle block to B with the left reverse knife-hand.")... hm.
Ragnarok... explain yourself. I don't want to say you're wrong ('cause lord knows you'll find some way to make what you're saying right, somehow.), but it's... not a strike... o.O
*hands up* Just sayin' what i'm seein' here.

-Kat

[Ragnarok2005]

LOL! You guys crack me up!

Jamesy your going to Bracknell right? Here's the deal. I'll throw a punch at your ribs and you do palm upwards block to defend yourself! - Hahahaha.

It is most definetly a strike. - And no Kat I am talking about the palm upwards. It's not a block. It's a strike either to someones groin or to a double over opponents jaw and throat [with the hooked fingers] But your the one with the blackbelt right? That you got in 2 years right?

And your also the one who follows the book religiously and yet denies that it works and says how stupid the movements are. It couldn't possibly be because you simply don't know the movements?

[carlos]

As I was going throught the coloured belts (which makes it sound so easy - far from it), I found the movement of Joong Gun to be the most difficult. I always struggled to get back to my mark at the finish of the pattern. It was all in the first 6 moves, I was wandering too far forward. I also struggled to get to grips with the footshifts. But, practice makes perfect and I still have some practice to do.

I personally found Hwa Rang to be the easiest to pick up, in the 6 months from red belt to black stripe, I had plenty of time to work on getting my other patterns up to scratch.

Right now though, I am finding Ge Baek a pain the bum to learn. For years, I have inwardly moaned about patterns repeating themselves. Now this one has very little repetition and I don't like it. I am never happy!