Intro to Xing Yi, with some good points coming out

[Guo_Xing_Yi]

This was taken when I was in a chat room, in conversation with someone who practiced Silat. I think the questioning was very worthwhile and worth mentioning here for your information.

Pesilat: is Xing Yi Quan a Chinese Boxing method?
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: yip
Pesilat: what is the premise of this xyq system?
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: kill maim and destroy mainly
Pesilat: no really?
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: its on my website, its too lengthy to describe here
Pesilat: ok
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: go check it out: www.xingyiquan.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
Pesilat: i will
Pesilat: hmm, looks rather interesting. The 5 elements can you expand on that?
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bursting_fist_of_xingyi: yip, though they're not the main emphasis of the art
Pesilat: The 5 elements Earth, Metal, Water, Fire, Wood
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: they're just like a 'brief introduction'
Pesilat: right okay
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: you know the game paper scissors stone?
Pesilat: sure
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: the 5 elements are like that
Pesilat: i see
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bursting_fist_of_xingyi: fire beats metal, water beats fire, earth beats water, wood beats water, metal beats wood, and so on
Pesilat: We use 5 elements theory but we look at the cycle of destruction method as well
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: we can use both productive and destructive
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: as well as complimentary cycles
Pesilat: yes
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bursting_fist_of_xingyi: however, its just a basis to teach someone how to fight with xing yi
Pesilat: so basically you follow the meridian flow as well?
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: its not exactly rocket science
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: no
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: some schools might, but we dont
Pesilat: ok
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: we go as far as saying 'its 5 elements'
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: because people tend to understand that
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: though really it should be 'beginner moves and principles to energy shifting'
Pesilat: We study a little bit of the Dim Mak or others call it Kyusho methods attacking vital points on the body, using the 5 elements of destruction along the meridians of the body
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bursting_fist_of_xingyi: in xing yi its not necessary to study dim mak
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: (luckily)
Pesilat: yes, but it would enhance your study im sure!
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: not really
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Pesilat: Dim Mak is not really a part of Silat either. however we do touch on it to better our knowledge of precision attacking
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: exactly why we dont need it
bursting_fist_of_xingyi:
Pesilat: Ok
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: sounds a bit weird i know, but silat and xing yi share different reasons for why they exist
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: you see in silat you wouldnt be wearing armour
Pesilat: no
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: in xing yi, you would
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: therefore dim mak wouldnt work
Pesilat: Pesilat are warriors we live to die
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: you only have to know where the gaps in the armour are
Pesilat: Why would anyone wear armor?
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: because it was developed for the chinese army to recapture china after the kublai khan invaded and took over it.
Pesilat: Sure but that was many years ago. Why would you keep something within your system that is obsolete in today's world. Does that really make it effective then?
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: and then later refined by whooping the japanese for a while
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: yes it does make it effective
Pesilat: ok
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: you see, if they do wear armour, we dont need to change our tactics.
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: if they dont wear armour, we still dont need to change our tactics
bursting_fist_of_xingyi:
Pesilat: oh okay
Pesilat: do you have any weapons in your system?
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: it is totally based on weapons
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: the only reason we have unarmed is due to it becoming outlawed/illegal etc
Pesilat: oh great! so what types of weapons traditional Chinese ?
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: but even then, the unarmed is still the same as armed
Pesilat: oh
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: bow, spear, sabres, swords, shields, needles etc.
Pesilat: do you do close quarter knife or edged weapon combat?
Pesilat: i see
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: yea, with needles
Pesilat: Needles?
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: xing yi is only close range
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: they're like emei piercers, but longer and double edged knives protuding both sides of the fist
Pesilat: well sounds like XYQ is on the right track then.
bursting_fist_of_xingyi:
Pesilat: have a good day sir. I must run now.

[RobP]

"Pesilat: what is the premise of this xyq system?
bursting_fist_of_xingyi: kill maim and destroy mainly "

"Pesilat are warriors we live to die"

[daftyman]

'Suicide squad' from Life of Brian?

George Patton quote:
"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."

[Guo_Xing_Yi]

Yea well, I thought that the noobs out there would be interested in reading it.

[daftyman]

it was, just an unfortunate remark in it

[Guo_Xing_Yi]

Originally Posted by vampyre_rat

it was, just an unfortunate remark in it

what would you describe it as?

[RobP]

Hsing I? A Chinese martial art that combines offense and defence that works primarily with linear / angular striking and footwork.

[Guo_Xing_Yi]

Well ya see, thats where yer wrong.