Help! Need to cut weight very quickly

[Southpaw535]

yeah this is in "what not to do" because I'm going to be very foolish:

I've got my first bjj comp on Saturday and entered myself in the weight category I've been for over a year, weighed myself tonight and without my gi I'm 2kg over the limit. That gives me tommorrow to cut about 4kg.

Now I know that's a stupid and probably impossible idea but I am pissed off with missing out on comps at the last minute and my club, particuarly our blue belt, has put a shedload of time ad effort into getting me ready for this. By all means tell me I'm a twit but I need some advice on how to go about this

[Mitch]

Dehydrate then rehydrate I think? Have you got Forrest Griffin's Got Fight? He has a chapter on it.

Mitch

[Moi]

Nothing 'till the weigh in. If you're not there by 4 hours before then start sweating. Skipping in a bin bag matie. Then eat like a (can't say it) and re-hydrate, nothing cold

[Southpaw535]

Dehydrate then rehydrate I think? Have you got Forrest Griffin's Got Fight? He has a chapter on it.

Mitch

Yeah I'm going to dig it out tomorrow. The weigh in is just before the first fight, and sod's law my divisiono is first with my name at the top of the list, but if I win I'll have a chance before the next one to get some food and water down me so dehydrating seems the best choice. The big problem is I've never attempted to cut weight before I'm not sure if 4kg is a big deal or nigh on impossible.

[Moi]

I was going to give you so much stick but....

[Southpaw535]

I was going to give you so much stick but....

Feel free :D
I'll be more embarrassed if cutting 4 kilos is fairly easy

[Moi]

Salt in the water or coolaid

[Atre]

4kgs = 4 litres of water = brutal loss (think of the volume)


I hope for your sake you were in need of a massive dump when you checked your weight.

This is a full on emergency cut, obviously don't eat ('tis extra weight sitting between your mouth and arsehole) and dehydrate like crazy close to weigh in if you're not there already.

Obviously, if you were FoD I'd just advise a haircut :P.

Just to check - the scales you tested yourself on are accurate right?

[Moi]

You're going to feel weak on the day. Redbull?

[Lorelei]

Could try colonic irrigation....... :o

[Southpaw535]

4kgs = 4 litres of water = brutal loss (think of the volume)


I hope for your sake you were in need of a massive dump when you checked your weight.

This is a full on emergency cut, obviously don't eat ('tis extra weight sitting between your mouth and arsehole) and dehydrate like crazy close to weigh in if you're not there already.

Obviously, if you were FoD I'd just advise a haircut :P.

Just to check - the scales you tested yourself on are accurate right?

Tomorrow is going to suck :( Hopefully literally - it might help

I'm going to buy some scales tommorow to double check but even if they're not completely accurate my gi will add another couple kg on the day anyway.

Sent the organisers an email which included the words "I'm begging you" so I'll see if that works.

[Moi]

Tomorrow is going to suck :( Hopefully literally - it might help

I'm going to buy some scales tommorow to double check but even if they're not completely accurate my gi will add another couple kg on the day anyway.

Sent the organisers an email which included the words "I'm begging you" so I'll see if that works.

Try a chemist for scales but it's what shows on the organisers that count

[Mitch]

Strip for the weigh in, you shouldn't have to wear you gi. Poop, wee, do everything before the weight in. Don't eat or drink between now and then, spend the hours before skipping/running in a bin bag. Get some rehydration scahets from the chemist (dioralyte or similar) and neck them straight afterwards, plus water and some food.

Then spend the rest of the day repeating, "I won't leave it so late next time"

Mitch :)

[Moi]

That last line Mitch

[Southpaw535]

Strip for the weigh in, you shouldn't have to wear you gi. Poop, wee, do everything before the weight in. Don't eat or drink between now and then, spend the hours before skipping/running in a bin bag. Get some rehydration scahets from the chemist (dioralyte or similar) and neck them straight afterwards, plus water and some food.

Then spend the rest of the day repeating, "I won't leave it so late next time"

Mitch :)

Yeah weigh-in is just before your first fight and with the gi on. Sachets are a great idea though mate

[Southpaw535]

That last line Mitch

I can't help being a tit I am young after all

[Mitch]

It must be an age thing. Every time I feel a tit I get slapped.

Mitch

[Atre]

- Buying scales, seems a bit expensive if you ask me? Fair enough if you'll use them generally after tomorrow though. I'm really not sure how accurate cheapo scales are though.

- Mitch's advice is good, given the choice I'd (personally) add sport rehydration drinks and other intense sugar sources to your post-weigh in binge. They perk my energy levels up no end (possible placebo but who cares) and you'll need it with the no food beforehand!

Actual food will be satisfying but not actually get metabolised in time for your fight

- Buy loads of Helium balloons and hold them in your teeth/hands/anywhere for weigh in :P

[Moi]

It must be an age thing. Every time I feel a tit I get slapped.

Mitch

I'm sorry about that but they're very sensitive at the moment x

[Southpaw535]

- Buying scales, seems a bit expensive if you ask me? Fair enough if you'll use them generally after tomorrow though. I'm really not sure how accurate cheapo scales are though.

- Mitch's advice is good, given the choice I'd (personally) add sport rehydration drinks and other intense sugar sources to your post-weigh in binge. They perk my energy levels up no end (possible placebo but who cares) and you'll need it with the no food beforehand!

Actual food will be satisfying but not actually get metabolised in time for your fight

- Buy loads of Helium balloons and hold them in your teeth/hands/anywhere for weigh in :P

Nah only a couple quid and I could do with some laying about. Is there a risk of making myself more ill if I binge straight after?

[Atre]

Possibly. Define binge.

You don't want a big meal, complex carbs and protein are just not going to be giving you energy in the 20 minute window (what is your exact timescale here?) you have between weigh in and fight.

Get rehydrated (that means isotonic stuff not water) and get quick energy sources into your face. I've heard chat about warming the fluids to speed uptake but sounds like bull to me.

[Southpaw535]

Possibly. Define binge.

You don't want a big meal, complex carbs and protein are just not going to be giving you energy in the 20 minute window (what is your exact timescale here?) you have between weigh in and fight.

Get rehydrated (that means isotonic stuff not water) and get quick energy sources into your face. I've heard chat about warming the fluids to speed uptake but sounds like bull to me.

I was thinking a couple of salad sandwhiches or something. My timescale is weigh in literally a couple minutes before I fight. After that first one I should have enough time to get something down my neck before I'm back on if I win.

[Microlamia]

My timescale is weigh in literally a couple minutes before I fight

Yeah, you don't have time to eat a meal in a couple of minutes. You'll probably throw up. Just have a hit of sugar.

[Southpaw535]

Yeah, you don't have time to eat a meal in a couple of minutes. You'll probably throw up. Just have a hit of sugar.

Yeah I'd just hydrate a bit before that fight but if I win and advance I have enough time before the next one to eat

[righty]

How serious is the comp. Some organisers can be understanding in changing your weight division. Also despite the fact that you officially weigh in minutes before stepping on the mat, arrive earlier and step on the scales to see your weight (organisers should let you do this). So this gives you an indication how your weight in going on their scales at least an hour (try for more) before you fight. This means you have better leeway to rehydrate yourself if necessary and or go for a jog in a sweater in the meantime.

Also have a look at the rules regarding weigh-in. Most will give you a range and give extra weight consideration if you weight in with your gi (from memory mine have been 2-3Kgs). So that means if your gi weight less than that weight consideration it can actually be a better idea to weight in while wearing your gi rather than without it.

Oh, and get an enema.

[Southpaw535]

How serious is the comp. Some organisers can be understanding in changing your weight division.
The website seems pretty strict but then I guess its going to be. It'd the UK Premier Championships although it used to just be the Bristol Open, I think its a big deal locally/nationally but on the grnad scale it's minor. That said I ahve heard they're trying to get to international standards.

Also have a look at the rules regarding weigh-in. Most will give you a range and give extra weight consideration if you weight in with your gi (from memory mind have been 2-3Kgs). So that means if your gi weight less than that consideration is can actually be a better idea to weight in while wearing your gi rather than without it.
Gi's not optional. I can't find anything about leeway or considerations just says make weight with your gi on or go home.

Oh, and get an enema.
Do I get a choice of flavours?

[righty]

The website seems pretty strict but then I guess its going to be. It'd the UK Premier Championships although it used to just be the Bristol Open, I think its a big deal locally/nationally but on the grnad scale it's minor. That said I ahve heard they're trying to get to international standards.

Despite this it might be worth giving them a call now and see in person what they attitude is to it.


Gi's not optional. I can't find anything about leeway or considerations just says make weight with your gi on or go home.

If they are saying that then they are far from international standards. Any weigh-in weight should technically be you fully nekkid. A gi is damn heavy when you take into account weight classes and how fine fighters tend to cut it. Do you have a link to the comp website?


Do I get a choice of flavours?

You're doing it wrong.

[Southpaw535]

Despite this it might be worth giving them a call now and see in person what they attitude is to it.
Will do tomorrow

If they are saying that then they are far from international standards. Any weigh-in weight should technically be you fully nekkid. A gi is damn heavy when you take into account weight classes and how fine fighters tend to cut it. Do you have a link to the comp website?


http://ukpremierbjj.com/index.php

I think you're doing it wrong.
I've heard of a few kinds :p

[Frodocious]

At the risk of repeating what you've already been told, you're a muppet for leaving it this late to check your weight! ;)

I wouldn't recommend eating sandwiches that close to a fight. Have a sports energy drink or get some energy gels and use one of those. They should give you a sugar boost to get through the competition. I've used them for all day kayak races when I haven't had time to eat between events. They're not ideal nutrition but should work for this occasion.

[Moi]

They give you wings :Angel:

[righty]

Found one for you..
http://www.qbjjl.org.au/?page_id=51

Quote that in your phone call and see what they say. On the comp site you linked to they said their weight divisions are quoted from the ifbjj site - but I can't find anything of the kind on the ifbjj site.

[illegalusername]

A sauna is a great way to shed weight quickly, but 4kg is pretty much impossible unless you are huge.
Just suck it up and go in a higher weightclass. It sucks but not as much as cutting that much weight.
Have a sports energy drink or get some energy gels and use one of those. They should give you a sugar boost to get through the competition. I've used them for all day kayak races when I haven't had time to eat between events. They're not ideal nutrition but should work for this occasion.
DO NOT OVERDO IT

If you do a quick weight cut and then overload on sugar you will get the runs which turns out to be a BAD THING when you have to fight.

[Moi]

A sauna is a great way to shed weight quickly, but 4kg is pretty much impossible unless you are huge.
.

That's not Lefty. He's a tough task ahead of him.

[holyheadjch]

You need energy gels. Get yourself to a bike shops and ask them for energy gels. Neck a couple of them and a half pint of water after your weigh in and maybe your body will start absorbing the sugar before the fight.

But if you can change your weight class this late, do it, because you're going to be a mess.

[Southpaw535]

Well after spending a couple of hours between running down the park and doing some weird circuit thing here I remembered to check my email and the dude's changed me up a class. Luckily he wasn't writing the brackets until this morning.

So no crazy cut for me and investment in some scales in a minute along with a pretty big kick up the arse to not do this again :p

Thanks a lot for all the help though guys really appreciate it. I do love this site :D

[Moi]

Well after spending a couple of hours between running down the park and doing some weird circuit thing here I remembered to check my email and the dude's changed me up a class. Luckily he wasn't writing the brackets until this morning.

So no crazy cut for me and investment in some scales in a minute along with a pretty big kick up the arse to not do this again :p

Thanks a lot for all the help though guys really appreciate it. I do love this site :D

Most importantly food. You can eat again!

[Southpaw535]

Most importantly food. You can eat again!

My mum hasn't got plates big enough :hat:

[righty]

Now go and eat some cookies!

[Southpaw535]

Now go and eat some cookies!

Maybe not my scales still put me a little bit over with my gi :p

I am impressed I've put on this much weight so quick though guess training most days pays off

[seiken steve]

Was about to tell you to neck a load of aquaban and not eat till the comp but disaster has been averted.

good luck matey!

[Southpaw535]

Was about to tell you to neck a load of aquaban and not eat till the comp but disaster has been averted.

good luck matey!

Cheers dude!

[Atre]

How big are your weight classes?

Being the lightest by 4 kgs wouldn't be too fun either :P

[Southpaw535]

How big are your weight classes?

Being the lightest by 4 kgs wouldn't be too fun either :P

Mine's 64-70 and I'm averaging 64-65 without my gi on so I should be middling my division