Horse Bite

[xplasma]

I have found a horse bite to be a useful little tool in escaping hold . For example, horse bite to the inner thigh( just grab the skin and muscle and rip down), to escape a bear hug from behind. Or a horse bite to the Triscep to rip the oppenent down.

Does anyone else, have some applications of the horse bite, they would like to share. I have a feeling there are many more uses for it, that I haven't though of.

[Virtuous]

I can attest horse bites are pretty effective, they leave nice little bruises too.

[Adam]

I find them to be very uneffective. I can use them on my judo cousin very well, but against anybody tougher, it's just a distraction. You have some special technique for horsebiting?

[Brad Ellin]

Sometimes a distraction is all you need. Maybe you're taking too big of a "bite"? Try smaller bites next time. Too big of an area attacks too many nerves at once, the best thing to hit as few nerves as possible so that they register instead of "canceling" each other out.

[cloudgodd]

is the pectoral mussel, or in the rib cage hurts like nothing else.......

[KenpoDavid]

is the pectoral mussel, or in the rib cage hurts like nothing else.......

this is just a strong pinching of loose flesh? "tittytwister" LOL

If somebody has your arm in a hammer lock (bent behind yourself) you can often get hold of some flesh. If he doesn't let go of you then keep squeezing until you hear the screaming, then they will be "distracted" and you can try an escape...

[Adam]

And what would prevent him from tearing off your arm at the shoulder, breaking it and hitting you with it? Not a good escape, too risky.

[Brad Ellin]

And what would prevent him from tearing off your arm at the shoulder, breaking it and hitting you with it? Not a good escape, too risky.
If he were capable of that, I would be in deep doo-doo. However, if you haven't tried it, don't knock it. Remember, different things work on different people, that's the purpose of learning and training some many things. Last seminar I went to, we were doing something similiar to a horse bite. Small pinches combined with a strike to the tricep. My training partner yelped everytime I hit him (and he ain't no sissy, been doing this a lot longer than me and one tuff mother) and flinched. By the end of 15 minutes he was sporting serious bruises. Me? Sure, I had bruises. But no yelping or flinching. Why? Threshold of pain is different and I have a neuromuscular problem that does not allow me to feel pain as others do. Doesn't stop me from training that technique. And if I ever run up against another person that doesn't feel the pain, I'll try something different again and again and again and so often he has no time to adjust.

[KenpoDavid]

And what would prevent him from tearing off your arm at the shoulder, breaking it and hitting you with it? Not a good escape, too risky.

OK you are right adam I will just submit otherwise he will hurt me! LOL try to post something positive, dude.

[Jttuck]

The worst pain I have ever experienced during training was when I was fighting the technique being placed on me. He proceeded to pinch and scratch (more pinching than anything). Man, after pulling that stunt I was on my belly faster than you can say boo. The stuff can be very effective, especially when you are not expecting it.

Jttuck

P.s. It is always best not to fight the technique your partner is placing on you. Lesson learned.

[ckc123]

one good application is in a more traditional judo/jiujitsu hip throw.

use the "horse bite" on the "love handles", you will find the person standing up on thier toes (or jumping over your hip) instantly..

[xplasma]

one good application is in a more traditional judo/jiujitsu hip throw.

use the "horse bite" on the "love handles", you will find the person standing up on thier toes (or jumping over your hip) instantly..
i like that.....

[cloudgodd]

i like that.....
I already kinnda pointed in the general area.....

[xplasma]

I already kinnda pointed in the general area.....
I know, I just like the way it was put in a specfic context.

[cloudgodd]

I know, I just like the way it was put in a specfic context.

thats cool, just thought I would point that out.....get credit where credit is do....Cloud

[ckc123]

the "love handles" and the "rib cage" are very different locations. (even at the closest points they are about 4 inches apart).

as anyone knows, when you are using pressure points, or areas that are more "sensitive" being 1 inch out, can change the whole effect..

if you want to claim that the ribs are the same as the love handles then go ahead.. YOU thought of it first..

[xplasma]

the "love handles" and the "rib cage" are very different locations. (even at the closest points they are about 4 inches apart).

as anyone knows, when you are using pressure points, or areas that are more "sensitive" being 1 inch out, can change the whole effect..

if you want to claim that the ribs are the same as the love handles then go ahead.. YOU thought of it first.. cloudgodd pointed out that the general torso is a good place for a horse bite.
ckc123 put it in a specific context. i.e. the hip throw.

Both are great observations.

no reason to argue......

[cloudgodd]

the "love handles" and the "rib cage" are very different locations. (even at the closest points they are about 4 inches apart).

as anyone knows, when you are using pressure points, or areas that are more "sensitive" being 1 inch out, can change the whole effect..

if you want to claim that the ribs are the same as the love handles then go ahead.. YOU thought of it first..


just FYI the horse bite is not a pressure point....

[ckc123]

just FYI the horse bite is not a pressure point....

I know it's not.. it's a pinch.. but why would you want to pinch someone where they will not feel it very much.. the pain/pressure point are areas where there is a higher density of nerve endings, so they will feel the pain more..

it's the difference between knowing a technique and knowing how to apply it..

[Picksey]

Man, those things are EVIL.

We've tried them to the inner thigh a couple of times in class, and the less flesh you pinch, the more painful they are. Someone did one on me when I wasn't expecting it and I leapt backwards about three foot uttering unrepeatable things (which I'm not generally known for). I think the attack we were trying it against was a double handed lapel grab... but I'm sure there are infinite other applications, especially escapes from locks where you're too close to your attacker, or twisted at awkward angles, to get in an effective strike.

I think they're great because they're quick and easy, effective, and don't cause any lasting damage to your attacker (me, I'm a kind-hearted pacifist beneath it all). I used one on a foaf in a club once - he stopped giving me grief, and had some pretty nice bruises to contemplate the following day :D

[cloudgodd]

I know it's not.. it's a pinch.. but why would you want to pinch someone where they will not feel it very much.. the pain/pressure point are areas where there is a higher density of nerve endings, so they will feel the pain more..

it's the difference between knowing a technique and knowing how to apply it..
it also not a technique it is a form of a strike, and can be applied to any loose skin surface, keep that attitude and wait until you find someone that has a high pain tolerance in that area, guess what better find a new area...but I guess I would know the correct way why don’t you explain oh mighty one...Cloud

[ckc123]

it also not a technique it is a form of a strike

maybe you need a good dictionary. look up the definition of technique..

so you are saying a pinch is a form of strike.. whats next, a throw is a type of kick??

[cloudgodd]

maybe you need a good dictionary. look up the definition of technique..

so you are saying a pinch is a form of strike.. whats next, a throw is a type of kick??
no a throw is a throw, a pinch is a type of a strike, and a technique is a set of specific moves laid out for you.......