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SON OF BOLO
26-Dec-2010, 03:56 AM
i did some padwork today and i was gassed. ive turned into a fattie. ive gained massive weight since i been in the gym. please give me the best diet and quickest way to lost the pounds and get into martial arts shape. what exercises should i do to increase cardio and burn massive fat. also i have asthma what should i be taking and avoiding. also how should i breathe while fighting and how to concentrate.

slipthejab
26-Dec-2010, 04:10 AM
Ok....

A few things right off:

1) Don't use swearing or asterisks to cover up swearing. Family site and all... it will get you grief from the MODs here and... there are far better way to be self deprecating. It's also against the rules that you agreed to when you signed on here at MAP.

2) what does your existing gym routine look like?

3) what does your existing food diet and sleep routine look like?

Help us to help you.

Master Betty
26-Dec-2010, 08:44 AM
I find for most people, for simple maintainable weight loss, just avoid the fatty and sugary foods/drinks, and add a lot of long slow runs to your routine to burn the calories. That, on top of your regular training will usually see results in most anybody who's not already in a stage of moderate fitness.

It get's more complicated when your goals are purely to be a better fighter and keep your weight down. This is only one aspect however and, unfortunately, the only one I know in depth as I am neither a Dietician nor a physio.

WhitePanda
26-Dec-2010, 09:15 AM
The quickest way to lose weight is surgery.

Mitlov
26-Dec-2010, 09:24 AM
The quickest way to lose weight is surgery.

No, the quickest way to lose weight is sudden amputation.

slipthejab
26-Dec-2010, 10:37 AM
Somehow I guess surgery and/or sudden amputation is simply not an option for the OP. Call me crazy. :P

Master Betty
26-Dec-2010, 10:39 AM
The quickest way to lose weight is surgery.

You obviously haven't had any experience with the NHS!

Gary
26-Dec-2010, 10:42 AM
Cleaned up OP and moved to H&F where it's better suited.

Also ditto Slip's suggestions for current routine!

WhitePanda
26-Dec-2010, 10:52 AM
You obviously haven't had any experience with the NHS!

Why would I go to England for weight reduction surgery? I am Canadian, so obviously I would go to the States for that. :rolleyes:

icefield
26-Dec-2010, 09:46 PM
I find for most people, for simple maintainable weight loss, just avoid the fatty and sugary foods/drinks, and add a lot of long slow runs to your routine to burn the calories. That, on top of your regular training will usually see results in most anybody who's not already in a stage of moderate fitness.

It get's more complicated when your goals are purely to be a better fighter and keep your weight down. This is only one aspect however and, unfortunately, the only one I know in depth as I am neither a Dietician nor a physio.

someone admitting they DONT know something AND giving sound practical advise thats time tested and easy to follow..........whats the world coming to :mad:

Microlamia
26-Dec-2010, 10:51 PM
Heavy resistance training will help you too, as it cranks up your metabolism, so, you burn more calories...

Mitch
26-Dec-2010, 11:05 PM
Heavy resistance training will help you too, as it cranks up your metabolism, so, you burn more calories...

I'm not sure this is true.

Having more muscle increases the number of calories you will burn in a day, yes, but the increase is tiny. Coma or Cosmic posted on Facebook about this recently so can supply detail I'm sure.

As to it "cranking up your metabolism" I don't know what you mean beyond that.

As far as I can see (from behind my well-padded midrift) diet is the key. I know I can go out and burn off 1000 calories in a run. I also know that I can neck a few pints in an evening and have put back on that 1000 calories in no time and with no difficulty.

Not being critical coronavirus, not havng a go at you, just a commonly held misconception.

Someone will now come along and prove me utterly wrong :)

Mitch

Frodocious
26-Dec-2010, 11:12 PM
You're right Mitch. The most recent weight loss research has shown the best way to lose weight is to deal with your diet. The amount of calories burnt through exercise is relatively small in the whole scheme of things, so the first thing to sort out is what you eat. After that then regular exercise, including strength training can help, but it has to done along with a sensible eating plan.

Microlamia
26-Dec-2010, 11:14 PM
Sorry there. I should have found some actual studies before opening my mouth, lol :)

icefield
26-Dec-2010, 11:19 PM
Sorry there. I should have found some actual studies before opening my mouth, lol :)

to be fair lifting heavy whilst dieting will allow you to keep your muscle and maintaining muscle does burn more calories than fat, so its not like its bad advice, but how useful and how much is the question

Kind of like the interval is king for fat loss arguement, yes intervals burn calories up to 24hrs after a workout, but how many calories thats the question, onestudy found it to be 36 extra calories, hardly useful :)

all us fatties know what we need to do, eat less and create a slight calorie defecit, do some steady state exercise and push away the mince pies and beer :)

Microlamia
26-Dec-2010, 11:30 PM
Lol, have my metabolism :D. I eat a ton of crap that I don't need, and I'm still lean and harsh looking and slightly gaining some muscle (about 55kg at the moment as opposed to a very low 48-50...)

harukoraharu
26-Dec-2010, 11:53 PM
In gym/cardio terms I've trained as hard this last year as I did when I dropped to 52kg about 8 years ago and I'm still around 62kg at lightest. I dunno what age the OP is. My metabolism slowed after 35 and definately by 40 so the only way sure way would be to watch/reduce what you eat imo.

SON OF BOLO
27-Dec-2010, 12:26 AM
Heavy resistance training will help you too, as it cranks up your metabolism, so, you burn more calories...

explain more in detail

SON OF BOLO
27-Dec-2010, 12:27 AM
what about my water intake if i drink a gallon or more a day what impact will that have on me?

SON OF BOLO
27-Dec-2010, 12:29 AM
In gym/cardio terms I've trained as hard this last year as I did when I dropped to 52kg about 8 years ago and I'm still around 62kg at lightest. I dunno what age the OP is. My metabolism slowed after 35 and definately by 40 so the only way sure way would be to watch/reduce what you eat imo.

what do u train in and how many miles should i run?

harukoraharu
27-Dec-2010, 12:42 AM
what do u train in and how many miles should i run?

In MA terms Bujinkan Budo Taijitsu (which yes I know is not known for being very energetic in class training). Outside of class powerlifting, circuit training, running and rowing.

It depends on your running ability. I tend to be against any run which is over 45 minutes as that is about the cutoff point when more miles usually requires water and calories just to complete the distance. So 5 to 7 miles. Or a cardio routine I liked to do at my last gym was run 5km, row 5km, cycle 5km inside an hour.

Fish Of Doom
27-Dec-2010, 01:51 AM
what about my water intake if i drink a gallon or more a day what impact will that have on me?

you will pee a lot

slipthejab
27-Dec-2010, 03:14 AM
You still never posted answers to what my original questions to you were. See below:

2) what does your existing gym routine look like?

3) what does your existing food diet and sleep routine look like?

SON OF BOLO
27-Dec-2010, 07:39 AM
You still never posted answers to what my original questions to you were. See below:

everything is either non existent or out of wack

Master Betty
27-Dec-2010, 08:11 AM
Before things get really complicated by adding in various other factors like what kind of fitness you want to achieve etc... weight loss on it's own comes down to basic maths.

(How much energy your body is consuming) - (How much energy your body is using) = X

If X is a positive number on average then you will gain weight (in fat or muscle, depends on the training), if it's a negative number then you're gonna lose it. Again, your training can be the factor which means that it's the fat that's being burned off mostly. This, typically speaking, is how most fighters will regulate their weight for weigh ins.

SON OF BOLO
28-Dec-2010, 05:40 PM
bump

JaxMMA
28-Dec-2010, 08:47 PM
You're right Mitch. The most recent weight loss research has shown the best way to lose weight is to deal with your diet. The amount of calories burnt through exercise is relatively small in the whole scheme of things, so the first thing to sort out is what you eat. After that then regular exercise, including strength training can help, but it has to done along with a sensible eating plan.

Very true.
It's much easier to take in 5000 calories than burn them.

@OP:
Have you considered High Intensity Interval Trainig or Circuits?

jh1
28-Dec-2010, 09:36 PM
Run first thing in the morning. Then do more swimming, running, sparring, pad work. Also start eating clean, and get a jump rope.

Mushroom
28-Dec-2010, 09:44 PM
everything is either non existent or out of wack

So you dont train, but also dont eat and drink?

You still need to be a bit more specific than that. As a person posting on a martial arts forum, one would assume that you would either train in a style (even if it is a little) or work out (even if it is a little).

Bumping this thread will not give you your answers that you want without a lot more info from yourself.

Mitch
28-Dec-2010, 09:51 PM
I've gone back through your earlier posts and found you've boxed a bit. Get back to boxing right now and that's the exercise side of things taken care of. Add some running and lifting and you're sorted.

As for diet, eat good, fresh food in sensible amounts. Don't take in calories through drinks.

I don't know what else you want to hear?

Seriously fella, if you want help be specific. Most people will help if you give them the relevant info, but if all you do is post up general stuff, don't answer the questions you're asked, then bump the thread you'll get nowhere. Help people help you :)

Mitch

SON OF BOLO
01-Jan-2011, 09:28 PM
Very true.
It's much easier to take in 5000 calories than burn them.

@OP:
Have you considered High Intensity Interval Trainig or Circuits?

explain. my knees are trash i need to get them right. they ache when i sit down

Mitch
01-Jan-2011, 09:29 PM
If your knees are that bad you need to go see a Dr or Physio never mind anything else.

mitch

AnxietyCoachJoh
02-Jan-2011, 01:14 AM
your problem is not in your routine the problem is you keep on eating right???
and keep on sleeping... if your going to gym had a eating diet... eat healthy foods... .. after your done with your exercises your going to be hungry eat a healthy not go crazy with the food:cool: