Help please?! Anyone?

[Tono-san]

If anyone could give me some basics of their Ninjutsu form, like some notes on movements and how to do them, that would be great...you can email them to me at rinsakutonosan@yahoo.com, that is if you choose too...thanks homies! :D

[JimGould]

Or, you could join a Dojo ;)

[ns_oni]

or atleast buy a book, it gives you basic ninjutsu stances..

[Tono-san]

(Sarcasticly) I could do both of those? Oh Buddha!!

If I could do any of those, don't you think I would've tried already? I mean, not all of us are those R.U.P kids.(No offense, sadly some of my friends believe that funny but misleading garbage). I don't have a car, there is no dojo that I see in Minnesota that practices close enough, so I can't go to there from where I live. I don't have a job as of now, so a book is out of the picture. Plus ordering off the net or the bookstore gives me the paranoia that someone is looking at my personal records(big brother). That is why I came here...sorry if this seemed sort of angry or something. Please Help ME!!!!!!

[Andy Murray]

Hi Tono-San,

hopefully one of our Ninjutsu people will be able to help.

Kurohana is the Topic Mod for this section, but he's 'out-of-town' just now, so bear with us.

[Tono-san]

Pheww....Thanks Andy!

[Andy Murray]

In the meantime, take a look at the sites Magazine section.

Kurohana, aka Brad Ellin has written some wonderful articles.

[Brad Ellin]

There is a wealth of information and misinformation out there. Notes are no good with out the practical experience to go along with them. A lot of us, when taking down notes, are rather vague because we are trying to watch/learn/wrtie at the same time. Or write our notes down AFTER the fact and tend to miss something. But the notes are more of a "mind" refresher. We know what we did in class, and reading our notes my remind us of something. Check out some sites, me being a Bujinkan member will of course recommend just about anything you can find at winjutsu.com. Also, they have some video of Hatsumi Sensei there. PM me if you like to if you have questions about a particular site or dojo. Also, write or call the closest dojo to you and ask if there are any training groups in your area. You may have luck that way.

[Kalifallen]

Tono-san, I understand where you are coming from. I've been through it and still pretty much going through it.
What I recommend: Go to the library. Check out some Ninjutsu/Ninja books. Hopefully, your library has them or you could request them. If not. Go to a book store and read the books there. I've done it and so can you.
What to read, or if you are lucky watch: Masaaki Hatsumi. Anything by him is great reading/watching. Stephen Hayes. I recommend Ninja volumes 1-5, The Ninja and their Secret Fighting Arts, Ninjutsu: The Invisible Warrior. Robert Bussey, Ninjutsu: Basic Techniques & Skills. Of course their are a few others, but those are my favorite.
Also, I guess you should look out for Ashida Kim. For some reason people don't like him. I've looked through a couple of his books, only read one. One thing what I can say about his books is they don't feel realistic. It feels like I am reading a Ninja fiction novel. Some of the stuff is pretty good but don't take it too seriously. It is mostly a book to read for the fun of it.

Well, that's what I do when I don't have no money to spare. I say the library is the best bet, because you are able to take the book home with you. Still, check this or some other forums/websites. Remember, don't take everything too seriously. You could get misguided. Check around, figure out what type of Ninjutsu is right for you, then in the future you'll know what dojo to go to. Good luck.

[Topher]

Isn't there any other martial art styles clases in your area,

[Tono-san]

To answer Kalifallen: I wish it was that simple. I checked all of the sources that would be obvious(or what some people would consider to be). All libraries in MN have no Ninjutsu books or videos. I've checked. But thanks anyway.

To answer Homer J. Simpson: Love your show by the way, but there is nothing. So while your suggestion is a good one, I can't apply it. Thanks for it anyway.

And to answer anyone else: That is why I would like some notes, to see if my form isn't fake.

[totality]

Originally posted by Tono-san
Plus ordering off the net or the bookstore gives me the paranoia that someone is looking at my personal records(big brother). That is why I came here...sorry if this seemed sort of angry or something. Please Help ME!!!!!!

if anyone cared enough to keep tabs on what books you purchase, chances are they'd be monitoring your activities on the internet too.

[Tono-san]

That is true...but I still don't have money totality...but fine, if everyone doesn't want to help, that's okay, sigh...I wish something good could've came out of this.

[ns_oni]

A book is a good way to go though, i studied on books for more than a year before i actually joined. It gives you basic stances, various techniques and sets you up for a ninja mind :D

I recommend anything Hatsumi has written, also stephen hayes series was quite good, i liked volume #2. Sorry that no one can offer much help, but its quite hard to explain a technique since it can be done in so many ways, and the way you learn a technique in ninjutsu is different than any other art. Good luck :Angel:

[JimGould]

I wonder if you could learn to ride a horse by reading a book? I mean, its not like it will buck and suddenly take off or maybe rear up on you and you certainly don't need any balance ;) and well who wants to jump anyway :)

[ns_oni]

depends if its a wild horse or not? :P

[totality]

i've solved this entire ninjutsu dilemma by investing in a magical horse.

[Tono-san]

Lol...your all hilarious...by the way, I will state again that I have no money to do so...but now that I think about it, do you guys have any pdf's on hand that I could have or borrow? And if so would you be kind enough to give me one or two? ;)

[ninjim3]

Tono-san,

It's great to see someone as interested in the art as you are! You really want some information that you can use, and you want to begin training with it, as well as check the information and training that you have already gathered.

I understand that you don't have any money right now, and you don't have the ability to get to a ninjutsu dojo as well. I am going to say something that I don't want you to take defensively:

Several people have tried to help you, and for one reason or another, you have shut all of these opportunities down. Please do not say that noone has tried to help you! Those of us that have had the opportunity to train and have access to this information created those opportunities through hard work, desire and resourcefullness. They are qualities that are central to ninjutsu. This is a challenge for you that noone but you can solve. I remember starting in this art years ago, not having a car, not having money- and then borrowing money more than once as well a car, to get where I needed to be to get this training and knowledge that I wanted. Many of us have paid tens of thousands of dollars, chased after ninjutsu teachers all over the country or world, lost jobs, girlfriends and wives, and gave up much more. I remember walking 10 miles to get to a training site because once we got there after a 2 day bus trip, we didn't have the money to get a cab.

I am no different than you. Hatsumi sensei is no different than both of us. He has stated that he is the Grandmaster merely because he trained three times as hard, payed three times more money, and traveled three times as far. He traveled 15 hours by train, twice a week, every week for fifteen years to get to Takamatsu. He once payed over $1000 for just one, ONE technique! The man gave up everything, was near death more than once, and the list goes on.

The two central questions are:
What do you want?
What are you willing to do to get it?

You are now doing what you most desire to do. If you want to get the training, you will find a way!

I would be happy to help in any way that I can.
My phone number is on our web site.

Gambatte! (Keep Going!)
Jim McFarland,
Nidan, Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu

[cloudgodd]

tano-san

I sent an e-mail please keep it to yourself

Cloud....

[Tono-san]

Thanks ninjim3. I don't take it defensivley, infact I considered what I was doing to be active, I was using the resources, this is afterall is a resource, others have been helpful as well, it's just they gave me suggestions that I have put into thought and action already. But I thank you all. U 2 Cloud

[ninjim3]

Tano-san, I am psyched that you have heart enough to even look at the post I made. Most would make excuses. It's that simple and that difficult to understand the basic truth that we really are doing EXACTLY what we want to be doing the most at any given moment, and in all the coming moments in our lives. If we don't find a teacher, it's because we don't want to bad enough. If we don't have a car, it's because we don't want one enough. My teacher Bud Malmstrom said that most people look over at the "cookie" on the counter, but won't get up, walk over and get it. They just 'say' they want the cookie, 'insist' they want the cookie, and make every excuse in the world why they 'can't' get the cookie. But the bottom line truth, after you cut through all the illusion; it's because they won't get up and do what's necessary.

It's a rough one to hear...but I got the same words from all three of my teachers: Stephen K. Hayes, Mark S. Russo, and Bud. Now these are men that you really don't want to make mistakes in front of...but some of the people training, including myself, had been complaining that the training cost too much, or that it was too far, etc. etc. I got the truth put right in front of me, and it hurt. Those words stung then, but I grew, and true friends are not "yes" men- someone that really cares will sometimes point out your "tsuki" or weakness to you...

"There ARE no excuses," are words I hear ringing in my head over and over again. Stephen Hayes embodies that truth. Ultimately there is no, "coulda, shoulda, woulda...." We choose our path...we create our experiences."

Again, I want to say I am available by phone for any help that I can give, or feel free to email me.

GAMBATTE!
Jim McFarland,
Nidan, Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu

[Brad Ellin]

Truer words never spoken Jim. I remember driving 4 hours one way, once or twice a month to train in Houston. Back before there any dojos in Texas. Kelly Hill was the closest qualified teacher and he was 4 hours in the other direction and difficult to hook up with. I spent 20 years traveling the globe, training with whoever would train with me.
By the way, I met Bud (again) at the last Tai Kai and got to be Uke for him and vice versa. Wonderful seeing and working with him again. You lucky dog!

[Virtuous]

Originally posted by totality
if anyone cared enough to keep tabs on what books you purchase, chances are they'd be monitoring your activities on the internet too.

Book purchased with a credit card are recorded and tracked. Its called the Patriot Act I believe. (If you dont live in the us then it doesnt apply. So buy your books with cash if this bothers you. :)