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Rhineville
28-Jan-2004, 07:57 PM
Just a simple question...

How many Karateka truly believe that the Bubishi is their bible?

How many just adhere to the rules but don't follow it religiously (figuretively speaking)?

How many know what I'm talking about...

gojuman
28-Jan-2004, 08:12 PM
I think that the Bubishi has bcome so far removed from our Goju studies that we do not even refer to it any more. Evolution from the bubishi as far as I know started with Miyagi and since then why would it still be referred to?
If you consider that the bubishi begat goju and goju has been around for almost 100 years now and has gone through it's own developlment the direct link to the bubishi is now rather irelavant. I am only speaking from a student of USA Goju who does not have anything to do with studying the bubishi.

Rhineville
28-Jan-2004, 08:19 PM
good enough. (lord knows that I wouldn't use it as a study guide for techniques, katas, etc.)

What I really meant , though, was the more philisophical and moral aspects of the bubishi and if anyone really believed in "lead a modest life" as opposed to "be a sore loser at tournaments"

gojuman
28-Jan-2004, 08:44 PM
[/QUOTE] [B]What I really meant , though, was the more philisophical and moral aspects of the bubishi and if anyone really believed in "lead a modest life" as opposed to "be a sore loser at tournaments

Every one of our tournements starts with a speach from our master Sensei in which he reminds everyone of their honor and that it only matters that particpants are there and it matters not as to whether or not they win or lose.
There is little or no tolerance for poor winners or losers.

Rhineville
28-Jan-2004, 08:56 PM
Most local tourneys do have a lot of moral principles.

The Canadian Nationals, however, do not.

Coaches screeming at refs...
Kids crying because they're only ranked 2nd in the country...

Very sad to experience.

Andrew Green
29-Jan-2004, 06:40 AM
Never got it..... interesting read, but I wouldn't put it on my top ten list.

Lots of hype and marketing.

I think it got that nickname as it was one of the first, if not the first available in Okinawa.

If there's only one book, or one good book, thats pretty much the must have book.

Take it as a historical source, not a bible ;)

kempocos
29-Jan-2004, 02:16 PM
All valid points, If you have read the translation by Mcarthy or the one by Alexander it becomes hard to determine if it is a " how to " book or a training jornaul somene kept. I am reading a book that is a in depth study of the information on vital points contained in the BUBISHI it is titled " the western bubishi" . The author Rand Cardwell has done a very good job putting this information into clear and easy to grasp format.

paul paterson
29-Jan-2004, 02:39 PM
Osu,

Please do remember that the Bubishi has been translated by Mcarthy, very losely that is, and is not the holder of the Bubishi.

Regards.

madfrank
17-Mar-2004, 01:14 PM
Hi all

The Bubishi is a book relating to martial arts not competition stuff.
the two are diametrically opposed.

MF