Most Powerfull kick

[mani]

What do you think is the most powerfull kick?

I personally beleive it is the front kick.

[Cain]

One more vote for front kick ;)

|Cain|

[Pacificshore]

I'm thinking it's whatever kick ends the confrontation right there and then:cool:

[Kof_Andy]

I say side kick is way stronger. The footwork of side-kick are set up for better balance since your toes are pointed back. Front kick the max is 90 degree, which wont give you the balance you needed for power kick.

[Ad McG]

Depends on the footwork or whether it is just from standing. My step up side kick owns all my other kicks. Anyone who has seen Bruce Lee side kick a 300lb bag or a person with a kick shield will know it's power (damn, I hate bringing up Bruce Lee, but it's a good example!).

[clutchdoctor]

I'd say side kick, just seems to me personally that you have more torque...(can't spell, and my fingers are cold) yeah, more torgue..torqe..in the kick.

[Kwan Jang]

-From sheer body mechanics, if the technique is done properly, the most powerful kick is the spinning back kick. Many people do not practice it enough or properly to get it down well enough to use it well, though. A mechanicallly weaker kick like a roudhouse (espescially the muay thai version) done well will hit harder than a poorly delivered stronger kick like a side or back kick. Also, obviously though very powerful, the back kick needs proper set up as a finishing blow, otherwise it will leave you extremely vulnerable.
-Of the kicks listed, the side kick is the most powerful and in a tie w/ the lead leg round for being fastest in delivery. If you place your base foot's heel towards the target, you can thrust w/ both legs and use both the glutes and the hip flexors with great efficiency. In it's locked position, it's striking a linear strike with the heel in a straight line from the hip and femur. If chambered correctly, the kicker should be able to apply his/her weight into the kick as well. (BTW- the spinning back kick has all these attributes as well, plus more pre-stretch on the muscles and additional torque).
-The front kick can be very strong, but only has a 45 degree angle on the base foot. Therefore it can't aplly as much potential force. Also, unless you are using the "push kick or muay thai version, it's not striking with as hard of a surface (heel), and even then, the bone and hip alignment is not as efficient.
-I am talking about the potential of these kicks for power from a bio-mechnical standpoint, rather than style or even what works for the individual. In my experience, most students find it far faster and easier to develop a really powerful muay thai round than an effective side kick, let alone be able to safely set up and deliver a spinning back kick with any regularity. For myself, back when I was fighting full contact, I had more KO's with a hook kick, though it was not as powerful, I was reallllly sneaky in getting it in and used the heel with my weight so it still had KO power. You are truly going to be effective at what you effectively practice and pressure test.

[xubis]

I am still always developing my kicks, but atm it is my front kick

[Dark Blade]

A side kick sent to the chin can never be healthy.
I only really do them to the body...and I'm sure that's not good for you either.

[Furikuchan]

Depends on your definition of power. I'd have to go with what was said earlier: "whatever ends the fight."
Geez, I'm the only hook kick enthusiast. Fine, I'll back it up. I've always found that a good hook kick to the kidneys can stun a guy even more than a front or side kick to the chest. People kind of expect their front to be attacked in a fight. (Even karatekas who train in point sparring focus too much on their front for a point, instead of the back as a target.) But shocking the kidneys can do quite a bit of damage. The hook kick takes a bit more finesse, in my opinion.

[Anth]

for me its my front kick, but as im still a low grade im still working on kicks in general. however, i chose side kick for the main reason that ive seen a lad send his opponent half way across the hall with a side kick and his opponent wasnt exactly small

[shuyun3]

Originally posted by Adam McGuigan
Depends on the footwork or whether it is just from standing. My step up side kick owns all my other kicks. Anyone who has seen Bruce Lee side kick a 300lb bag or a person with a kick shield will know it's power (damn, I hate bringing up Bruce Lee, but it's a good example!).

does his jumping sidekick count? its sort of a fying kick with a 3 inch clearance!

[HayabusaZero]

I'm voting sidekick myself, after watching sensei go wild on a heavy bag.

[StorDuff]

Doesn't matter when you're wearing cleats :o

[wayofthedragon]

mmmmm, hard to say...... depends on the kicker
But of the ones listed I'll vote side kick, though I think there are much more powerful kicks than the ones you have listed

[Hannibal]

Tricky one...

Side Kick was my first choice because It can break you in half. Then again, so can a good front kick. The problem with these is that a mis-timed shot leaves a "pushy" kick which although visually impressive (the opponent flying through the air) do little actual damage.

A Muay Thai round kick is by far the most powerful of its kind (apologies to TKD/Karate stylists but it is true!). But again a mis-timed shot is "slappy".

Hook kick? Please! No power at all - the damage requires TARGETTING not power.

So assuming "Power" means impact and all things being equal I would have to go with muay-thai round kick I think. Ask me again in a week and I might have changed my mind though....

[aml01_ph]

The side kick, needs the proper footwork to be powerful. Without it its worthless. The Hook kick in karate is just like a jab punch, fast but not a lot of power. The roundhouse kick is strong, but it tends to be slow.

The front kick, however, has the advantage of being powerful without taking a lot of footwork and using minimum space. It also helps that this is the easiest kick to do. The flexibility required for a front kick is less than that of the other kicks which means more freedom of motion and hence power.

It's easy to move a really heavy bag using a side kick with a forward shuffle. But if you are just standing there in front of the obstacle with very little space, its junk.

[evil_max]

Well side probably is the most powerful since you can do yoko geri kekomi or keage (side snap and Thrust).

[aml01_ph]

You can do both on the front kick too.

[hedgehogey]

The most powerful is definetely the thai shin kick. Plus it hits with a heavier, sharper part of the body.

[Kenpo Kicker]

sidekick The mechanics are just perfect :) if trained right and used right. Roundhouses are easy to learn and are very powerful but not as powerful as a sidekick. You can say a roundhouse is the best for it's learning curve and strong power. I'm a big fan of both kicks but gotta go with the sidekick. I use these kicks often. Good thread.

[enlwlffo]

A side kick sent to the chin can never be healthy.
I only really do them to the body...and I'm sure that's not good for you either.

lol any kick to the chin can never be healthy,
but i have to say
backkick is the most powerful
same "body mechanics" as u guys say of a side kick but you add a spin

[aml01_ph]

The most powerful is definetely the thai shin kick. Plus it hits with a heavier, sharper part of the body.

Is this similar to front kick delivered like a stomp or a snap or both? Or is it like a side kick delivered with a stomp? The front kick is still better. :D

[Picksey]

No one's mentioned a spinning hook yet... they can be pretty satisfying if you get a good wind up :)



A Muay Thai round kick is by far the most powerful of its kind (apologies to TKD/Karate stylists but it is true!).
What's the difference between a Muay Thai round kick and a karate one, then? I find karate roundkicks to be quick and snappy, not particularly powerful but enough to give you a rude shock - I know this from experience! :rolleyes:

[ranger]

i have a friend who is practicing gensei ryu and he has one of the most powerful back kick! if there would be a standstill in sparring he would assume a very deceptive stance which as if his turning his back on you posing an opening for you to attack then if you deliver an attack he will let go of that back kick or the mule kick as they say and had it hit me gone would be my happy days! :D

[Shaolin Dragon]

The glutes are the largest muscles in the body so it makes sense that any kick performed using them will have more power behind it

[shinguards]

i agree with kwan jang - i go for spinning back kick, but this wasn't in the options on the list to select

[Relosa]

I say it depends from person to person.
I know personally for me a ushiro geri is the strongest, but second would have to be mae geri. But I don't think any spinning kick counts, it's like how pictures throw base balls compare to just tossing it around. well kind of.

Peace
Will-San

[hedgehogey]

Is this similar to front kick delivered like a stomp or a snap or both? Or is it like a side kick delivered with a stomp? The front kick is still better. :D

ROUND kick. r-o-u-n-d. The only thing similiar to it is a roundhouse. But the thai kick is delivered with no snap. It is swung downward to the thigh, like a baseball bat. The entire body turns. If the kick misses you have no choice but to spin around.
The weapon is the shin, not the foot.

[aml01_ph]

ROUND kick. r-o-u-n-d. The only thing similiar to it is a roundhouse. But the thai kick is delivered with no snap. It is swung downward to the thigh, like a baseball bat. The entire body turns. If the kick misses you have no choice but to spin around.
The weapon is the shin, not the foot.

OK. I thought the kick was delivered to the shin. I have been on the recieving end of such a kick many times and they do hurt. But a stomping kick to the shin is very damaging (with enough opposing resistance you can fracture the bone). With the kick I mention you also swivel your whole weight forward and down.

[kickcatcher]

Low roundhouse Thai style gets my vote.

But maybe a jumping-spinning-backkick or a side kick are technically more powerful. Measuring power is an end in itself. Effectiveness is a more popular measure.

[Tosh]

Low roundhouse Thai style gets my vote.

Effectiveness is a more popular measure.

But not what was asked for ;)

Effectiveness is highly dependent on context ;).

Not easily answerable in a poll like this.

P.s. *Psssst* we're in the Karate forum guys! There's another context everyones missed :D

[47Ronin]

My votes for the round house. My most powerful kick in my arsenal :p

[Cougar_v203]

any kick i use is powerful.
But i like the recent one i just learned, which is the hook kick. A Sidekick i consider powerful since you are kind of putting everything into the kicking leg but i don't like it sometimes because the question comes up sometimes when i'm training "what if i miss the person completely"

[basf12]

i say the famous side side kick is the strongest because when u kick your opponent will fly away if u kick properly
front kick is strong and u can feel the pain but u cannot fly but if u opponent is crouching he can fly
turning kick is strong and it can break ribs
hook kick good for kicking head and can break someones neck

[b19vny]

A good indication of the power of a kick isn't how far your opponent sails through the air but how quickly it removes his desire to continue fighting.

[PersonasBinar]

Well being of a lower level, and less than YOUTHFUL flexibility, my side kicks blows thus far. My front kick isn't to bad but for my money my back kick is the opponent stopper. Get the opponent to commit then bury it. As well I can get my back kick up into the head area whereas NO WAY with a side kick. My front kick is more of a distance maker, unless i jump of course. I think all can be quite powerful if done properly. It's all in the timing.

[Sun Hwang]

Side kick no question. Especially sliding sidekick; with your body position, weight and speed and momentum, not to mention the strengh of your leg... I've knocked so many people over with that (and gotten knocked over a few times also) :). It's a good kick.

[aml01_ph]

I think this poll should have clarified how a kick shoiuld have been delivered. There are many ways to deliver the four kicks above. Also the back kick should have been mentioned.

In my opinion the strongest kick (when you little room to move) is the front kick. The roundhouse kick is powerful, but it is also slow. The side kick is not much when you deliver it without a forward shuffle. And the hook kick in karate involves so few muscles that its like a wimpy snap.

Front kick! Snap the foot upwards while thrusting the pelvis forward. It will send the other guy at least reeling back if not flying away.

[Guy Mendiola]

I would have to say a sidekick because the chambering is a little more powerful then most kicks.

[KageKi]

side thrust kick for me

[Osu]

The spinning back kick is the most powerfull one. Why is this not included??

[kez]

i suppose it's differnt from person to person. my best kick is 4 sure a hook kick. if u use it right- the heal is deadly!

[iolair]

Not original, but I'm going to say that the turning back kick is the most powerful. However, it requires very good timing and distance to apply correctly. The most powerful regular kick is the side thrust.

Hook kick is the least powerful - but it's a sneaky SOB, and therein lies it's undoubted effectiveness.

[SamuraiFire]

Roundhouse is the most powerful kick, especially the thai style one if you put your hip behind it, if you don't then thats one lame roundhouse, especially if you do it from the lead.

[JohnnyX]

Ushiro Geri (Back Kick), is more powerful than any of the ones listed.

[Nrv4evr]

depends on what you want. in terms of pressure, stick with the back kick or front kick, it could knock over a car. pain though, i prefer roundhouse with the ball of the foot pointed outwards. i can't count the number of bruises and fractured ribs i've suffered because of that. :cry:

[Cougar_v203]

lolz, poor Nrv4evr :D (you do know that it was me who kicked you :D)




ps.- I lied :D

[Nrv4evr]

p.p.s i know
p.p.p.s did u know that?

oh and the chin kick hurts, especially if you got teeth like a wolf.

[andybenw]

Back kick is the most powerful as you use the strongest muscles and build up speed over a large range of movement. Then sidekick providing you do it properly and get your hips into the movement. Trouble is these kicks are easy to telegraph and require a good bit of commitment to the move.

[shotokanwarrior]

[QUOTE=Furikuchan]Depends on your definition of power. I'd have to go with what was said earlier: "whatever ends the fight."
Geez, I'm the only hook kick enthusiast.


No you're not Furikuchan. a hook kick is lethal, it combines yokogeri and mawashigeri

[Infesticon #1]

I voted side kick as out of those for me it's the most powerful.

I think that with time and practise the axe kick and spinning axe kick would be more powerful though.

[shotokanwarrior]

No you're not Furikuchan. a hook kick is lethal, it combines yokogeri and mawashigeri[/QUOTE]
No No, sorry i meant it combines Ushirogeri and Mawashi geri. It uses much the same muscles as Ushiro and uses the scything action of mawashi.

[Jamie Thomson]

I've always found Ushiro-geri (back kick) to be most powerful.

The power is increased over an above that of the mae-geri, by the pivotal action towards the target. The direction of the kick allows you place a large majority of your body weight behind the heel on impact of the target. You don't get the weight behind a mawashi kick that you do with mae-geri or ushiro-geri, you are also afforded a small amount of extra distance with the ushiro-geri.

Of course this is all based on the kick being aimed at the mid section of the body rather than the head, with a strongly bent supporting leg (with the foot flat pointing in the opposite direction of the kick) and the kicking foot pointing towards the floor upon execution and throughout the kick ... and DON'T LEAN TOO FAR!!! (sorry, flash back!)

[Romantic]

Thrusting front kick is the most powerful kick. Not to be confused with front snap kick.

[Adam]

Are we talking about the most potentially effective kick or just the kick that would send a heavy bag flying the farthest?

Hardest kick: charging side kick or front kick
Most effective: shin roundhouse

[aml01_ph]

Thrusting front kick is the most powerful kick. Not to be confused with front snap kick.

WRONG! :D

Try thrusting with the hips then simultaneously snap at the knee. If it connects the other would not only "fly" away but will also suffer some hurt.