Staying Small

[Rikkru]

Can I stay small and get stronger by doing pull-ups, tricep pull-ups, diamond push-ups, planche pushups, handstand pushups, jumping squats, running about 7 miles a day, and eating normally? I'm talking about Bruce Lee small.

[WhitePanda]

Why are you worried about looking small?

[slipthejab]

Can I stay small and get stronger by doing pull-ups, tricep pull-ups, diamond push-ups, planche pushups, handstand pushups, jumping squats, running about 7 miles a day, and eating normally? I'm talking about Bruce Lee small.

ROTFLMAO!!!

What on God's green earth does 'Bruce Lee small' mean? Reality check. With the work out regimen you've listed above you're not in any remote chance of 'getting big'... not a chance in hell. In fact with that sort of a workout you're looking at staying Tinkerbell small. lol.

Seriously the above workout is poorly planned. You really need more variety and movement in different planes. You have only pushing motion for the most part and no pulling motion. You're looking at massive imbalance in your workout routine that will lead to a pretty big imbalance in your physique.

[El Medico]

Can I stay small and get stronger by doing pull-ups, tricep pull-ups, diamond push-ups, planche pushups, handstand pushups, jumping squats, running about 7 miles a day, and eating normally? I'm talking about Bruce Lee small.
You run 7 miles a day I don't think you have to worry too much about a big increase in mass!

Anyway,your biggest size/strength gains occur in the first year of training.Unless you eventually train specifically for mass,or do something like the dreaded 20 rep squat routine I wouldn't worry about getting too big.

Are you trying to keep your weight down to stay in a certain division in wrestling or boxing or somesuch?

[El Medico]

ROTFLMAO!!!

What on God's green earth does 'Bruce Lee small' mean? Reality check. With the work out regimen you've listed above you're not in any remote chance of 'getting big'... not a chance in hell. In fact with that sort of a workout you're looking at staying Tinkerbell small. lol.

Seriously the above workout is poorly planned. You really need more variety and movement in different planes. You have only pushing motion for the most part and no pulling motion. You're looking at massive imbalance in your workout routine that will lead to a pretty big imbalance in your physique.
Well,he could always tie weights to himself,Slip!

[slipthejab]

I think I'm going to found the Institute for Freedom from Bruce Lee Worship.
Seriously. It's insane that this absurd standard people try to hold themselves to. :D

[47MartialMan]

I think I'm going to found the Institute for Freedom from Bruce Lee Worship.
Seriously. It's insane that this absurd standard people try to hold themselves to. :D

Whats the matter?

You haven't seen or not enjoyed the

"How Bruce Lee Changed the World" film





:)

[Ranzan]

Why would you want to stay small?

[47MartialMan]

Why would you want to stay small?

To be fast like Bruce Lee....Whaaaaa

[simon s]

Rikkru, lifting weights does not make you big, eating makes you big. Have you any idea how much food is consumed by a serious weightlifter? Massive amounts, every two hours for some. That in conjunction with weights will make you big. In addition you could eat well, train hard but not get in the correct rest and still not make the gains.

Get your self a proper workout regime, eat well and programme in rest days.

Oh and forget about getting to big.

[rivend]

Hello Rikkru welcome to the forum.....What is your definition of big for you, is it weight mainly, or is it the possibility of your body bulking up that you want to avoid.

[Gary]

What is it with people who think they'll get big and lean by accident? I've b e trying for years now and it's hard work, if you want to train for years without gaining weight just ask one of the thousands of people who successfully look the same each year even though they religiously train in the gym.

[Suhosthe]

Deadlift, Squat, OHP, Bench Press, Rows, Dips, Chins. 5 x 5.

Plenty of walking or, if you really feel the need to, light jogging as active recovery.

Intersperse with sprint sessions maybe once a week. Tabata if you're feeling hardcore and aren't afraid of a little puking.

That's a sustainable routine that'll make you strong and 'not big'.

There's no need to overcomplicate it. Why do people feel the need to make it complicated?

[righty]

I'm talking about Bruce Lee small.

Are you Asian?

[Doublejab]

Can I stay small and get stronger by doing pull-ups, tricep pull-ups, diamond push-ups, planche pushups, handstand pushups, jumping squats, running about 7 miles a day, and eating normally? I'm talking about Bruce Lee small.

Why do you want to stay small? Unless you are having to keep your weight down for a specific reasin putting on some quality muscle is a good thing for most people.

[Moi]

Why do you want to stay small? Unless you are having to keep your weight down for a specific reasin putting on some quality muscle is a good thing for most people.

He might be a chimney sweeps apprentice?:rolleyes:

[Suhosthe]

He might be a chimney sweeps apprentice?:rolleyes:
A sweep is as lucky as lucky can be! :)

[47MartialMan]

A few people I asked, if they start a weight training program, they think they will get buig. The big factor to them in getting big, is that they think over time, the big-large will turn into fat.

[seiken steve]

I'm just curious about what a 'tricep chin-up' is...

[Suhosthe]

I'm just curious about what a 'tricep chin-up' is...

I wondered about that myself. :)

[CosmicFish]

Are you Asian?
And planning on dying soon? Don't forget that Bruce Lee has lost some weight in the last 37 years.



Unless the OP posts back and says why he wants to stay small there's not a lot of sensible advice we can give. If he wants to compete in a specific weight class then fair enough. However, if it's a case of "I don't want to be too big" then I can see a whole load of posts saying things like "I want to earn money, but not too much" and "I want to meet a nice girl, but not too nice".

Actually, that last one kinda makes sense.

[Rikkru]

I'm asian. Tricep chin-up is where you turn your hands around. I just don't want to be big because well... it's weird ;D

[19thlohan]

Cause when trolls get too big they get kicked out from under the bridge?

[19thlohan]

Oh and triceps push not pull. It's a chin up one way and a pull up the other.

[CosmicFish]

I'm asian. Tricep chin-up is where you turn your hands around. I just don't want to be big because well... it's weird ;D
Oh boy. Seriously?

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm180/CosmicFishy/LOLs/skinny_man.jpg http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm180/CosmicFishy/LOLs/skinny-man-pose.jpg

[Rikkru]

Thx cosmicfish..... I fapped

[seiken steve]

I'm asian. Tricep chin-up is where you turn your hands around. I just don't want to be big because well... it's weird ;D

Have you done them before?

Notice when you do a lot your biceps hurt?

Seriously though mate, there is no risk of you getting too big.
Look at ronnie coleman you probably think he is too big, do you think he got like that by accident? or do you think he dedicated his life to becoming that big?

Frankly if i bodybuilt I would be insulted you feel it's that easy.

If you're that worried about hypertrophy then do somethig like 5x5 but if you're actually running 7 miles a day then i don't think weight gain is the issue, overtraining could be.


peace.

[Doublejab]

I smell troll

[Llamageddon]

Me too. Yum Yum.

[Suhosthe]

Mmm. Troll burgers; the snack that never ends. :D

[El Medico]

I smell troll
Anything's possible,but probably not. This a common misconception,that strength increase = massive size.

Just tell any woman who doesn't know about this stuff to do squats.:eek:They think their thighs will rival Tom "Quadzilla" Platz's.

You can't really blame people.Look at the covers of most of the magazines.Huge bods.And certainly nothing that says "You will never look like this guy/gal without steroids + the right genetics".

Many people do think it looks weird.I've read more than one competition bodybuilder's account of overhearing less than flattering comments when out shopping or taking a stroll while just dressed in street clothing.

Cosmic-your comment on Lee's weight loss the last 37 years was disrespectful,crude,and completely uncalled for.It also almost resulted in a Pop Tart/root beer spray through my nose all over my new keyboard.:)

[slipthejab]

accurate perspective topped off with a smidgen of comedy gold.

[rivend]

Why are some of the so called upper class and the top entertainers so obsessed with looking abnormally thin is this the fashionable thing to be.

Or do they look at someone who has more weight as piggish and crude.

Even slight extra weight is frowned on in some circles.

This may have something to do with the mindset of being big.You see examples of this everywhere.


No reflection on the OP btw just a personal observation.

[Gary]

There is an odd occurrence common with a lot of women who'll claim all day they don't like a bit of muscle on a man, though when a guy with a little muscle says hi to them in a bar it's a completely different story.

The problem is that some guys believe them and think that this is what they should do instead of the intuitive thing that guys should have a bit of strength and muscle.

[flaming]

There is an odd occurrence common with a lot of women who'll claim all day they don't like a bit of muscle on a man, though when a guy with a little muscle says hi to them in a bar it's a completely different story.

The problem is that some guys believe them and think that this is what they should do instead of the intuitive thing that guys should have a bit of strength and muscle.

Apparently it's dependant on the time of the month.

[Gary]

Apparently it's dependant on the time of the month.
My girlfriend read that in Cosmo, apparently they're attracted to skinny guys one week in four when they're looking for a good husband and biologically handicapped to do what the guys hoping for anyway.

In my experience there's also a difference between what average girls are attracted to and what hot ones are attracted to, although when it's a model or pinup with his six pack out in an advert suddenly it's fine to say they're hot. I've always suspected it's because average ones justify to themselves that not going after the alpha males in a group is a conscious decision rather than think that they're losing out to the hot ones. This crosses over nicely with how many women instantly dislike attractive women and will happily whisper derogatory claims about them behind their backs.

I can't say this is always the case but I've seen it so often it becomes a joke after a while.

[CosmicFish]

Let's also not forget that there is a sliding scale* when it comes to muscularity. It certainly is possible (although far far harder than some people seem to think) to become "too big". I think it was Chris Shugart who described meeting a pro bodybuilder at an airport and watching this huge behemoth of a man sweating, panting and struggling to simply carry his luggage out of the terminal because he was hampered by the sheer weight of the muscles he'd built up. Regardless of how true this story may or may not be, saying you don't want to get "too big" because people like that exist is like saying you're not going to go to work on Monday morning because you're afraid of becoming a multi-millionaire and having to spend the rest of your life living as a recluse in a country mansion fielding multiple requests for charity handouts every day.

When someone says "I just don't want to be big because well... it's weird ;D" you can be pretty sure that either a) they're thinking that picking up a barbell with some reasonable weight on it is suddenly going to give them a physique that will shame all the hard work that Arnie put in for years. or b) they're a troll. Probably a skinny one.


* I've thrown that phrase in again for Slip, coz I know how much he loves it. :)

[47MartialMan]

Mmm. Troll burgers; the snack that never ends. :D

At first I thought you wrote-I read, Troll buggers.

[47MartialMan]

Anything's possible,but probably not. This a common misconception,that strength increase = massive size.

Just tell any woman who doesn't know about this stuff to do squats.:eek:They think their thighs will rival Tom "Quadzilla" Platz's.

You can't really blame people.Look at the covers of most of the magazines.Huge bods.And certainly nothing that says "You will never look like this guy/gal without steroids + the right genetics".

Many people do think it looks weird.I've read more than one competition bodybuilder's account of overhearing less than flattering comments when out shopping or taking a stroll while just dressed in street clothing.

Cosmic-your comment on Lee's weight loss the last 37 years was disrespectful,crude,and completely uncalled for.It also almost resulted in a Pop Tart/root beer spray through my nose all over my new keyboard.:)

Like Arnold said "I need to pump it up"

Or did he say "I'll be back- to pump up"

[Gary]

Like Arnold said "I need to pump it up"

Or did he say "I'll be back- to pump up"
If you've never trained with Arnold to the sweet sounds of "Don't stop believing' or 'It's raining men' then you've never really trained.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/arnold-schwarzeneggers-total/id193611426

[47MartialMan]

If you've never trained with Arnold to the sweet sounds of "Don't stop believing' or 'It's raining men' then you've never really trained.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/arnold-schwarzeneggers-total/id193611426

LOL. My view of him will never be the same

[seiken steve]

If you've never trained with Arnold to the sweet sounds of "Don't stop believing' or 'It's raining men' then you've never really trained.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/arnold-schwarzeneggers-total/id193611426

was anyone else sick in their own mouth a little?

[mai tai]

i find it real funny how folks dont want to end up with big bulging muscles.....talk to a bodybuilder....one of those real big ones.....most of them have been at it for about ten years.....10 years of extreme training, eating like horses, training like bulls, and dieting like a olsen twin.....its a real strict life style.....i once had a friend who rearanged his wedding so it wouldnt fall on a leg day.......no nid day sex cause it interfered with his workout. another guy i knew took a lowerpaying job cause he thought that the one he had was holding back his shoulder gains........

and im not even talking steroids yet......

why do some folks think they are just going to push a few weights and wake up huge....."like awe crap how did this happen....i knew i shouldnt have loaded up 225lbs......well its back to hindu squata and pushups"


5 lbs of lean muscle gain in a year is pretty good...

[Kuma]

I'm asian.....I just don't want to be big because well... it's weird ;D

Big Asians are weird?

http://purgeatl.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/boloyeung.jpg

Chong Li disagrees.

[Bigmikey]

Rikkru, lifting weights does not make you big, eating makes you big. Have you any idea how much food is consumed by a serious weightlifter? Massive amounts, every two hours for some. That in conjunction with weights will make you big. In addition you could eat well, train hard but not get in the correct rest and still not make the gains.

Get your self a proper workout regime, eat well and programme in rest days.

Oh and forget about getting to big.

Just FYI, I used to eat 6700 calories a day and I barely broke 284 at my peak.

OP, you said running... what on EARTH is THAT?

Seriously though, if you're going to comprise a sentence that contains the words running and staying small thats kind of like saying you work for the department of redundancy department.

[Bigmikey]

i find it real funny how folks dont want to end up with big bulging muscles.....talk to a bodybuilder....one of those real big ones.....most of them have been at it for about ten years.....10 years of extreme training, eating like horses, training like bulls, and dieting like a olsen twin.....its a real strict life style.....i once had a friend who rearanged his wedding so it wouldnt fall on a leg day.......no nid day sex cause it interfered with his workout. another guy i knew took a lowerpaying job cause he thought that the one he had was holding back his shoulder gains........

and im not even talking steroids yet......

why do some folks think they are just going to push a few weights and wake up huge....."like awe crap how did this happen....i knew i shouldnt have loaded up 225lbs......well its back to hindu squata and pushups"


5 lbs of lean muscle gain in a year is pretty good...


You've just become my new best friend - call me every five minutes.

[Moi]

Just FYI, I used to eat 6700 calories a day and I barely broke 284 at my peak.

OP, you said running... what on EARTH is THAT?

Seriously though, if you're going to comprise a sentence that contains the words running and staying small thats kind of like saying you work for the department of redundancy department.

I'd have to be weighed sitting in my car to get anywhere near that!

[Bigmikey]

I'd have to be weighed sitting in my car to get anywhere near that!

LOL! :D Yeah, but at least you have a neck :D

[seiken steve]

LOL! :D Yeah, but at least you have a neck :D

Just made me spit green tea on my favorite T-shirt laughing!


To be fair traps look cooler than necks do anyway!

[Knight_Errant]

We haven't had one of these threads for a while and I thought- hoped- that they were extinct. It should be mounted, stuffed and preserved for all to see.

[Rikkru]

Bahhhh, why is this still up here? I was really retarded then wasn't I? GET RID OF IT.... Doesn't everyone have that Athens when they are completely stupid and obsessed with Bruce Lee?

[seiken steve]

Bahhhh, why is this still up here? I was really retarded then wasn't I? GET RID OF IT.... Doesn't everyone have that Athens when they are completely stupid and obsessed with Bruce Lee?

Welcome to seeing sense. :)
Unfortunately this thread is likley to hang around but don't worry we've all got a thread/post we'd rather disappeared into the ether. (FWIW I've got some shockers)

I think the great thing about MAP is, that although we may poke a bit fun at the time we're all pretty forgiving, and willing to help you learn and grow from the experience, I know I've certainly learned a lot from my time here.

Just please don't post a thread asking how to grow a beard like Chuck Norris.

[Microlamia]

Being small sucks bum cheeks. You get treated like a disabled person no matter how strong you are, oh and people feel perfectly free to bug you about how little you must eat and how you might have malabsorption...ugh, people are poo.

[johnferrignon]

I also want something like this. I want my body to be fit but not too muscular. Just toned. What exercise and diet can you suggest?

[AnxietyCoachJoh]

its not the size its about heart like manny pacquiao who holds seven titles:cool:

[seiken steve]

I also want something like this. I want my body to be fit but not too muscular. Just toned. What exercise and diet can you suggest?

its not the size its about heart like manny pacquiao who holds seven titles


hrrmmm.

[Gary]

I don't want any toning. I want to be a huge amorphous blob of muscle and fat that makes Jabba look like a 98lb weakling. I'm talking epic size here, think the final city destroying scenes of Akira.

[Frodocious]

I don't want any toning. I want to be a huge amorphous blob of muscle and fat that makes Jabba look like a 98lb weakling. I'm talking epic size here, think the final city destroying scenes of Akira.

I recommend consuming vast quantities of dead animal, pie and cake, whilst lifting lots of very heavy things :D

[Microlamia]

I agree. Balls to the idea of toning. I want to be an 80kg monster. :D

Wait, I actually do...partly just because heavy muscle mass LOOKS cool, partly because the next time someone describes me as 'slender and delicate' and tells me not to lift heavy things, they're gonna need DNA testing to identify that person's remains.

[Gary]

I recommend consuming vast quantities of dead animal, pie and cake, whilst lifting lots of very heavy things :D

I'll add cake to my diet immediately.

[Frodocious]

I'll add cake to my diet immediately.

That you should! Cake should be the first and most important thing everyone adds to their diet! ;) :D

[Gary]

That you should! Cake should be the first and most important thing everyone adds to their diet! ;) :D

If I call it post workout cake I can squeeze it into the 90%.

[Frodocious]

If I call it post workout cake I can squeeze it into the 90%.

I like your attitude! :D

[Mitch]

I don't want any toning. I want to be a huge amorphous blob of muscle and fat that makes Jabba look like a 98lb weakling. I'm talking epic size here, think the final city destroying scenes of Akira.

Sir will be needing the Fool's Gold Loaf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fool's_Gold_Loaf).

Mitch :D

[Mitch]

Plus you can have carrot cake to get your vegetable requirements and Christmas cake for both fruit and nuts because it's important to maintain a balanced diet :D

Mitch

[Gary]

I should point out I'm already halfway to the amorphous blob of fat and muscle, I just need the latter bit to be done.

[CosmicFish]

I agree. Balls to the idea of toning. I want to be an 80kg monster. :D
You want to upgrade from "tiny" to "small"? :D




(Just kidding, don't hurt me!)

[Microlamia]

Die. :)

[Fish Of Doom]

I don't want any toning. I want to be a huge amorphous blob of muscle and fat that makes Jabba look like a 98lb weakling. I'm talking epic size here, think the final city destroying scenes of Akira.

TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 111

[seiken steve]

Plus you can have carrot cake to get your vegetable requirements and Christmas cake for both fruit and nuts because it's important to maintain a balanced diet :D

Mitch

naah i just have a cake in each hand, keeps it balanced.









(see what i did?.... okay I'll leave)