Lord of the Rings 3

[LeeGreg89]

Has one anyone seen this movie it is awesome i was confused at the end when Frodo had to leave on the beat does anyone know why he had or wanted to leave

All he said was The Shire is Saved but not for me can someone who has seen this movie explain this to me

[booksie_girl]

From my memory, and it was a long time ago that I read the book, which explained it better, Frodo, and Bilbo, had been so affected by the influence of the ring that they would be unable to live a normal life. His experience had changed him too much for a simple life as a hobbit in the shire. One of the other members will be able to explain it better.

[Zengjue]

Booksie_girl is right. Bilbo and Frodo are honored by being permitted to go with the elves (the only non-elves to ever be invited). They've been affected by the ring and also Frodo is still wounded by the Nasgul's blade, and the land of the elves will help him with that.

[LeeGreg89]

Oh yea about the Nas Guls blade how was he still wounded If the elves cured him

Remeber tha orc that orange one with one eye wha happened to him wasnt he the leader

[Kreen_Warrior]

Eh, there were no orc leaders in the book as I recall. Stupid Hollywoodness.

The elves couldn't completely cure that knife wound. It was a powerful evil attack. In the book it left a small shard of the blade in his flesh that slowly moved in towards his heart. I think it had almost turned him into a wraith by the time the elves got to him, too. The word is Nazgul, by the way.

Yeah, Frodo was forever changed by his quest. He was wounded in mind and body, and for his quest he was allowed to go to Valinor ( I think that's the name), the paradise land. Actually, it was said that Sam might eventually be able to go, too, because he was ringbearer for a time (in the book, if I remember, he actually put the ring on for a time in Mordor and didn't have much trouble giving the ring back. I've always thought he had a stronger will than Frodo)

On another side note, Gimli went with Legolas on the last ship, possibly a greater honor even than that given to Bilbo and Frodo, as he was the only dwarf ever to see Valinor (I think dwarves were born on Middle Earth, unlike Elves and Men who started in Valinor).

My Tolkien history is quite rusty, so feel free to correct me.

[Skinneh]

Yah that movie was good :D Way too long hehe, yet it didnt seem that long.

[shipto]

way too long? theres loads missing i.e. the shire is sposed to be under attack when they get back with saruman taking over bag end and the hobbits drive him out then worm tongue kills him in a arguement.
Maybe in the extended dvd?

[booksie_girl]

Originally posted by Kreen_Warrior
Actually, it was said that Sam might eventually be able to go, too, because he was ringbearer for a time (in the book, if I remember, he actually put the ring on for a time in Mordor and didn't have much trouble giving the ring back. I've always thought he had a stronger will than Frodo)


It was easier for him to give it back, since he hadn't carried it for very long. Still, he had a strong will to be able to do that.

[WhiteWizard]

Men didn't live in Valinor it was only the elves

[Kreen_Warrior]

Ah, I was wondering about that. As I said, my knowledge is limited.

[YODA]

Originally posted by shipto
way too long? theres loads missing i.e. the shire is sposed to be under attack when they get back with saruman taking over bag end and the hobbits drive him out then worm tongue kills him in a arguement.
Maybe in the extended dvd?

Nope - the scouring of the shire wasn't filmed :(

Saurman gets killed by wormtongue as they exit Isengard in the extended version. Exactly how is unclear - they've filmed several versions.

[shipto]

Oh well cant have everything i spose, I am just glad they did the story justice at last did anyone see the half animation attempt?
sheesh

[YODA]

You mean the 1977 Bakshi cartoon? I liked it :D

[WhiteWizard]

I liked the cartoon myself shame the studio didn't give the guy enough money to finish it considering it was in the 70's a very decent attempt IMO

[Greg-VT]

Lord of the Rings 3?!!?

I missed the 2nd one??

I only thought Tolkien wrote one LOTR? :rolleyes:

[booksie_girl]

Shame on you Ving Tsun!

[johndoch]

Yep I agree the cartoon from the 70's was good for its day.

[LeeGreg89]

Ha lol

These are great books but God these Books are huge with small writing

[shipto]

I am sorry i cant agree with the cartoon being good maybe if they had split it up and not tried to shoehorn it into one film. luckily I had already read the books otherwise i may have been put off LOTR.

[YODA]

Originally posted by LeeGreg89
Ha lol

These are great books but God these Books are huge with small writing


Sure they are - my daughter managed to read them ok when she was 9 though :D

[WhiteWizard]

If the print was that small i wouldn't be able to read them strangely i've read them 10 times now :)

[LeeGreg89]

lol it havent been such great books
i wouldve slept on it

[Poop-Loops]

Lord of the Rings 3: The Empire Strikes Back.

They even had the battle of Hoth and everything (Oliphaunts). :)

PL

[LeeGreg89]

What ever happen to the bad wizard not Gandalf we havent seen him in the 3 movie i just saw im in the last of part 2

[WhiteWizard]

he is in the extended version to be released in November. Read the books and you'll find out though ;)

[Greg-VT]

Read the book ;)

[LeeGreg89]

Lol K

Y didnt they realsed that in the extended version

[Freeform]

READ THE SODDING BOOKS!!!

[Overmind1984]

A lot of LotR fans here, but I never actually completely read the books. I did not like the writing style, but I love the movies. Anyways, if you watch the extra's of the DVD's, you probably know that most of the extra/side storie's were left out for two reasons. To keep the movies from being 20+ hours long and that some of the left out stuff was not actually relavant to the whole picture. In a book, you usually have more freedom to stray from the focus, but in a movie it is very difficult to do that while still making an entertaining movie. Has anyone here seen Master and Commander? That is a very good example of that situation.

[aml01_ph]

I don't know about Master ad Commander, but the movie would be too long if they stayed perfectly faithful to the book. Furthermore, it would not be as entertaining.

The books were great, but I found them hard to read. My main problem was with the language. It looked like Shakespeare knowing contemporary englsh and trying to write using it.

[Krossinc]

Lord of the Rings 3: The Empire Strikes Back.

They even had the battle of Hoth and everything (Oliphaunts). :)

PL

Kind of funny considering Star Wars is only around because of lotr, lol.

[Gryphon Hall]

Watch all the movies of LotR first, if you can, including the DVD Extended Versions before reading the book.

Because I watched The Never-ending Story, Dune, and Bladerunner as movies before I read the books they were based on, I have very wonderful memories of both.

But because I read The Lord of the Rings before I watched the movies, it was very hard for me, though I eventually accepted the movie versions as the best adaptations of LotR (even comparing with the classic works of Bakshi and Rankin-Bass [Rankin-Bass did the "part 2" to Bakshi's "part 1"])

But in all cases, the books, if you can wade through it, are way better than the movies. That is probably why printing presses are still in business.

IMHO. Just my two centavos. My two bits, even.

P.S. Off-topic: What is the difference between :love: and :D?

[totality]

books allow for a completely different perspective. my favorite example of this is chuck palahniuk's "fight club." anyone who's read the book can tell you that it's worth it's weight in gold, although the film was excellent as well.

[stratiotes]

I had a pretty cool reading experience with these books.

I had never even heard of it, not being a fan of fantasy. I just happened to watch the first movie after it had been out on video several months... i was hooked. I went out and bought the second two books and read them both within a week or two. They were really good.

They were a bit wordy, i found myself skimming over some boring parts, but i'm not complaining, great books, i've read them twice already and have seen the movies.

I also must add, these are the only movies i've seen that are as good as the books. Some things were a little different, and in different order as they happened in the book, but it didn't take away from anything. I think they had to do several parts that way to cut out on some of the lengthy-ness of leading up to different parts.

[Jim]

They were a bit wordy, i found myself skimming over some boring parts,
Aaiiiii! A non-believer... Stone him, Stone him...

[ToRNaDo LorD]

I think the battle of Minas Tirith was BS it sucked badly.
I say Helms Deep was better.
And, Frodo is a idiot he keeps just about to die and dosn't so I don't really care.

[chungmoomonkey]

man the battle of minu terith islike 10x better in the book it was a lil disapointing in the movie but still better the helms deep

i wass disapointed at the loss of the scouring of the shire maybe it will be in the special edition

also idk if any1 ever decide cuz i didnt read this wholetopic but sam def went on a boat way later after being governer of the shire three times and raising his 13 kids

ya lotr is great i used to be obbsessed (started reading silmirilian wich is a dam textbook) but now im just a mild fan lol