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jimi_lives
25-Jan-2004, 12:57 AM
hi everyone

i might be finally starting ninjutsu soon!! im going to have a look at the classes on wednesday night, and then i hope to start right away.

i have a few questions.

i will be going to the Australian Ninjutsu Academy. does anyone train there? is it genuine ninjutsu? the teacher is Mike Tattoli. anyone heard of him?

secondly, in ninjutsu, do you have to be a certain rank to start weapons, or grappling or whatever?

many thanks
Jim

JimGould
25-Jan-2004, 04:14 AM
My one concern here is that the guy claims to be a personal student of Soke. Soke does not have personal students and has not done so for many years.

I do believe that Mike is a memeber of the Buj in Auss but maybe it would be a good idea to ask him who he trained under and who the Org is associated to. (I think he's associtaed with Mr Roy)

You do not need any rank to start weapons training. You will of course be better at it once you have had some time training.

Krissy
21-Apr-2005, 03:14 AM
Hello. I saw this thread and decided as a member of the local ninjutsu I would comment.

I Train under Sensei Michael Tattoli every tuesday and attent sessions in 3 other Tattoli Dojo's. I would like to point out that Michael Tattoli is an excelent Sensei and you will benefit from studying under him. He is a great Sensei and I well recommend him for you to train under.

~ Krissy

Grimjack
24-Apr-2005, 08:25 AM
Hello. I saw this thread and decided as a member of the local ninjutsu I would comment.

I Train under Sensei Michael Tattoli every tuesday and attent sessions in 3 other Tattoli Dojo's. I would like to point out that Michael Tattoli is an excelent Sensei and you will benefit from studying under him. He is a great Sensei and I well recommend him for you to train under.

~ Krissy

Great. We have the opinion of a 16 year old. Can you tell us if JimGould is correct when he says that Tattoli is associated with Wayne Roy? The guy who wrote the following letter?

http://www.bushinbooks.com/Royletter.jpg

saru1968
24-Apr-2005, 11:54 AM
And remember Roy is not in the Bujinkan, so there is no link to Hatsumi and if you wish to train in the Bujinkan I would avoid.

Gary

:-)

Lohan
26-Apr-2005, 06:44 AM
I train in Ninjutsu as taught by Wayne Roy, have done so for over 3 years and enjoy it alot.

I suggest you try his dojo for yourself and make your own decision instead of basing it on what people say who aren't even in Australia and who have never trained with him. It is easy to make a judgement from 10,000km away.

Try www.tesoma.com and you'll see that there are dojo's all around Australia as well as a few in Sydney where I assume you are from.

sshh
26-Apr-2005, 03:43 PM
spookyFBI: "I don't think saying that he's no longer in the Bujinkan is bashing him??? If he is no longer in the Bujinkan !!!! "

Lohan: "I suggest you try his dojo for yourself and make your own decision instead of basing it on what people say ..."

That's "basing" not "bashing."

I think that was some sort of reverse Freudian Slip (http://www.answers.com/topic/freudian-slip) on your part, spooky.

saru1968
26-Apr-2005, 03:55 PM
Lohan please...


Statement of Fact: Roy left Bujinkan, see letter and the letter speaks for itself, unless of course he has rejoined?

IF a person wants to train in the Bujinkan then train under a Bujinkan Instructor.

why oh why do people jump on you when its just facts, I've never trained with the guy so i can't comment on his teaching, but His letter clearly states he left, period.

Another Fact I am in the Bujinkan, under a Bujinkan Shidoshi.

Who teaches Roy? (silence)

Gary

:-)

Lord Spooky
26-Apr-2005, 03:59 PM
spookyFBI: "I don't think saying that he's no longer in the Bujinkan is bashing him??? If he is no longer in the Bujinkan !!!! "

Lohan: "I suggest you try his dojo for yourself and make your own decision instead of basing it on what people say ..."

That's "basing" not "bashing."

I think that was some sort of reverse Freudian Slip (http://www.answers.com/topic/freudian-slip) on your part, spooky.


Sorry not reading posts again :eek: it's not my fault its my brain told you folks I'm not responsible for what it does :D

Anway I've deleted it :Angel:

Lohan
27-Apr-2005, 04:47 AM
Gary...

Jimi-Lives who started this thread mentioned ninjutsu, not bujinkan. If someone wants to train in ninjutsu why should they train in bujinkan?

Wayne Roy brought ninjutsu (and I suppose bujinkan too at the time) to Australia.

There are similar things in the Reiki world - ooh find the teacher who has the link to the "source". Its all about the experience of it though - if you gel with the Sensei/teacher then go for it, if not, then don't.

Grimjack
27-Apr-2005, 07:17 AM
If someone wants to train in ninjutsu why should they train in bujinkan?

Because the soke of the Bujinkan has probably forgotten more about ninjutsu that Wayne Roy will ever learn.

Ever bother to check the amount of time Wayne Roy actually spent training under Soke? Not teaching back in his home country- actually being in the same class with Soke. It is not a lot of time. When Soke went to Australia, did anyone see Roy in the area?

Go talk to Ed Lomax. He trained under both Roy and Soke. So, judging by your logic of
I suggest you try his dojo for yourself and make your own decision instead of basing it on what people say who aren't even in Australia and who have never trained with him.

That you are not in a position to talk about Soke, but Lomax is qualified to talk about the qualifications and moral charecter of Roy as well as Soke.

Quilb
09-Oct-2005, 09:45 AM
I know this is an old thread, i just wanted to clarify something.
Tattoli dojo's is part of the bujinkan, not part of wayne roy's ninjutsu.

And Grimjack, there is no reason to talk down to someone because of their age. I fully agree with Krissy that it is a great dojo and i love training there. Politics aside i think you should just find a dojo you are happy with and train.

I do however highly recommend Tattoli dojo's.

-Quilb

Keikai
10-Oct-2005, 07:35 AM
I suggest you try his dojo for yourself and make your own decision instead of basing it on what people say who aren't even in Australia and who have never trained with him. It is easy to make a judgement from 10,000km away.

.

Hatsie,

you are out in Oz, have you got an opinion on this?

Keikai
10-Oct-2005, 07:36 AM
Gary...

Jimi-Lives who started this thread mentioned ninjutsu, not bujinkan. If someone wants to train in ninjutsu why should they train in bujinkan?

Wayne Roy brought ninjutsu (and I suppose bujinkan too at the time) to Australia.
.

read the witch hunt thread about fakes and frauds!! :D

Nick Mandilas
11-Oct-2005, 03:38 AM
Yes...this was an old thread, but since it has reared it's ugly head once again and I am from down under I'll say a few things:

1) From what I have heard, Mike is a good instructor and part of the Bujinkan...his details are:
Bujinkan Kobudo Tattoli Dojos
Instructor: Mike Tattoli (Shidoshi)
Information: (02) 4369 3676; 043 69 3676
ninjutsuacademy@bigpond.com.au

the link to this info is: http://www.bujinkanadelaide.org.au/dojo.htm

2) On Wayne Roy: as you all know I use to train at his dojo and I have now been training for a while at the Bujinkan. All I can say without being mean, slanderous or nasty...but just honest that if you really want to learn true ninjutsu, then Wayne Roy's schools are just not the way to go. His system is more like a modern day self-defence system...alot more shallow in terms of the depth of knowledge in technique.

What put me off the most about Wayne Roy's schools was when I had read his bio and realised that he had only spent about a year in japan learning Ninjutsu...before that he was a karate guy.

Nevertheless, like Stephen K Hayes, it must be noted that he was the first to bring Australian attention to a more accurate depiction of our martial art. There just seems to be better schools out there now.

He has since began to change his schools name to "Jyukutatsu Ninjutsu Dojos"
see it all at www.tesoma.com

I mean even a claim such as this one: "Ninjutsu as taught by Sensei Wayne Roy offers you access to the most complete, and up to date ninjutsu based training programs available today." Up to date by whom? He has had no one to train him, grade him etc...

Sorry Lohan...I don't want to get you all hyped up again, but it is just the way I feel. I left Wayne Roys system 7 years ago with a green belt 2 stars, and after a week in the Bujinkan, give it up for a white belt, I was ouclassed, outranked and I knew it.

But then again...it's up to the individual.

Kris x
11-Oct-2005, 10:39 AM
Great. We have the opinion of a 16 year old. Can you tell us if JimGould is correct when he says that Tattoli is associated with Wayne Roy? The guy who wrote the following letter?

http://www.bushinbooks.com/Royletter.jpg

So just because she is sixteen her opinion doesn't matter? :cool:

Keikai
11-Oct-2005, 11:59 AM
So just because she is sixteen her opinion doesn't matter? :cool:

Thats right, at that age i just sat back and learned, nothing else!!!!

Lord Spooky
11-Oct-2005, 12:08 PM
Thats right, at that age i just sat back and learned, nothing else!!!!


Do you know how old that makes you sound :D :D er thinking about it there's not much difference between us in age so it makes me feel old too :eek: :eek:

Lord Spooky
11-Oct-2005, 12:20 PM
So just because she is sixteen her opinion doesn't matter? :cool:


It's not that her opinion wouldn't matter, but to be honest it wouldn't carry as much as weight as the opinion of someone who has spent many years studying the art and has a wider range of experience in life.

Keikai
11-Oct-2005, 12:27 PM
It's not that her opinion wouldn't matter, but to be honest it wouldn't carry as much as weight as the opinion of someone who has spent many years studying the art and has a wider range of experience in life.


Exactly, at the ripe old age of 16 i doubt anyone would have a substantial amount of info behind them apart from internet warriors!! on that subject, where is Jibran!! :D

When i was 16, shut up and train was the normal quote!! :D

xen
11-Oct-2005, 01:04 PM
When i was 16, shut up and train was the normal quote!! :D

only when you were 16...? :D

kouryuu
11-Oct-2005, 01:19 PM
only when you were 16...? :D

Heh heh, nice one Xen :cool: :D

Peaceful Tiger
12-Oct-2005, 10:31 AM
Slightly off topic and sorry to bring this up, but regardless it is something I feel needs to be said.

Whom here, who read Wayne Roy's letter to Soke were sickened by, or laughed at his statement at the end where he states....

"I know I have Takamatsu's blessing in this matter".

I had a distasteful sicky feeling in the pit of my stomach at reading this for the following reasons....

1. The letter was written on the 15th September 2000.

2. Wayne Roy claims to have been a member of the Bujinkan for twenty years which means he started his training in 1980.

3. Toshitsugu Takamatsu died on April 2nd 1972.

How then would it be possible for Wayne Roy to have or even assume to have Takamatu's 'blessing in this matter'?

Talk about insulting!

Keikai
12-Oct-2005, 10:42 AM
Slightly off topic and sorry to bring this up,


and sorry to go off topic again but........ :D

Is that you on the Ashida Kim message board Iain??? :D :eek:

Peaceful Tiger
12-Oct-2005, 02:44 PM
Ah, caught me, just having a look-see and posting a couple of things, nothing of substance though.
Surprisingly, I haven't been shot down in flames or threatened with violence yet as I have kept my posts polite and friendly :D

Krissy
12-Oct-2005, 03:55 PM
Just because I'm 16 doesn't mean you should disregard my opinion completely. I was just passing on the knowledge that I have learned within my time training under the guidance of Sensei Tattoli.

I have trained under multiple Sensei's within the Tattoli Dojo's. I have also trained over seas in New Zealand at another Bujinkan dojo. Along with attending a Brin Morgan seminar and also just the other week one with Michael Pierce.

So I have studied under a wide range of different Sensei's and seen the different levels.

Age shouldn't matter I am moving through the art just like the rest of you and was just offering my opinion to help out.

Sensei Tattoli's Dojo's are part of the Bujinkan and would be worth visiting to see for yourself if you’re ever over here in Australia.

If you don't wanna believe me believe the older people who have also recommended and said good words about him. But then maybe you'll realize that just because I'm 16 doesn't mean my opinion doesn't matter.

And if no-ones words are good enough for you I suggest you get on a plane and come over and see for yourself. I highly recommend the dojo's to you and until you fly over and train under Sensei Tattoli yourself, I suggest you don't criticize.

Love Budo
12-Oct-2005, 11:13 PM
Krissy, your opinion does matter. But do you really need any of these folks, who are for the most part anonymous, to acknowledge the worth of your opinion?

Just enjoy the forum for what it is: a place to discuss the art that you practice and perhaps learn something along the way. That which is stupid, petty or downright nonsensical, just ignore.

That said, remember the saying. "The devil knows so much not because he is the devil, but because he is so old."

xen
12-Oct-2005, 11:31 PM
Thats right, at that age i just sat back and learned, nothing else!!!!

i missed this one the other day :eek:

greg, what went wrong? :cool:

it sounds like you were more enlightened about 16 yrs ago than you are now :D

how i wish i'd known you back in what must surely have been the 'good ole days' :cry:

ahh well, i can but dream :p

ps...nice come-back krissy...give 'em hell ;) :woo:

Peaceful Tiger
12-Oct-2005, 11:50 PM
Hmm, If Greg went to the Hombu or Budokan and Soke said, "Shut up and train", Greg would be the only one to say, "Eh?" :D

Peaceful Tiger
12-Oct-2005, 11:55 PM
Just because I'm 16 doesn't mean you should disregard my opinion completely. I was just passing on the knowledge that I have learned within my time training under the guidance of Sensei Tattoli.

I'd hate to be called "Sensei". When I reach the dizzy heights of Shidoshi, you can all just call me, "Your Worship"
:D

sistaninja
13-Oct-2005, 03:37 AM
Mike Tattoli is a legitimate Bujinkan instructor who operates well run schools and regularly hosts the likes of Brin and Natascha Morgan. He has no association with Wayne Roy.

Keikai
13-Oct-2005, 07:10 AM
Hmm, If Greg went to the Hombu or Budokan and Soke said, "Shut up and train", Greg would be the only one to say, "Eh?" :D

If i was paying attention in the first place!!!

Keikai
13-Oct-2005, 07:12 AM
greg, what went wrong? :cool:



I spent some time at your dojo, now my mind is all mushed up!!! :eek:

Grimjack
13-Oct-2005, 08:23 AM
Just because I'm 16 doesn't mean you should disregard my opinion completely.

Not completely, but not as much as someone with a lot more experience. I can remember when I was 16. My opinion and outlook on things have changed quite a bit since then. Your's will too and then you will realize why people don't listen very much to 16 year olds.

Now someone who had trained in a good dojo for 16 years would be listend to. But of course, there are things that does not matter how much experience you have to say them. But when you post an opnion, then we look at the experience and ability to judge of the person making the opnion.

xen
13-Oct-2005, 03:10 PM
I spent some time at your dojo, now my mind is all mushed up!!! :eek:

lol...i should have known we'd get the blame :rolleyes: :D

never mind, you know what they say...if it doesn't kill you it makes you stronger... :cool:

Krissy
14-Oct-2005, 09:30 AM
Hehe Thanks xenmaster :P

And don't worry I understand that I don't need anyone to acknowledge my opinion I just thought I'd straighten a few things out and I realise that my views and opinions will change as I get older and more advanced in the art, but its nothing different cause its just part of growing up. :)

Kris x
14-Oct-2005, 02:19 PM
Thats right, at that age i just sat back and learned, nothing else!!!!

Yeah right!

Age doesn't necessarily mean knowledge or wisdom.
And the last time I checked we didn't have to be a certain age or rank to post.
Don't blast someone for saying something that she/he has a right to say, it wasn't as if Krissy was saying anything bad.

I just don't think it was very nice to blow her off like that.

Didn't mean to start a riot :cry: ma bad.

saru1968
14-Oct-2005, 03:54 PM
I just don't think it was very nice to blow her off like that.




:-0

PINK BUNNY
15-Oct-2005, 02:01 AM
i dont know who the guy is but i do know there is very few teahers in the world that are ninjas that can be verifed from japan and that the original art has been guarded for many years and that they do perform background checks before you learn anything worth value not to say it isnt worht doing but to realize that it is basically a form of terrorism from like 400years ago that came from india china and the middle east to help warring factions in japan to protect them selves and your not going to be batman afterwards and that the schools thta do teahc the knowledge to brfore warfare on others are aware that goverments are now keeping a close eye on that kind of training so i dont really think that as of right now the art of death is going to be taught as the teacher who grants the word ninja to his students basically wrote that he changing the cours of training in his q and a book

Krum
15-Oct-2005, 08:54 AM
PinkBunny.....

That was probably one of the most ignorant and stupid posts I've ever seen in this forum.

Neil-o-Mac
15-Oct-2005, 12:36 PM
By the looks of his other posts, Pink bunny isn't exactly coming across as a rocket scientist, to say the least.

Peaceful Tiger
15-Oct-2005, 07:19 PM
And he MAP award for the post containing the most incomprehensible gibberish goes to.......(drum roll!)

:D

grand ninja
16-Oct-2005, 02:09 AM
where is the austrailan ninjitsu academy becaus i have been looking for a dojo and have come up with nothing

Lord Spooky
16-Oct-2005, 07:55 AM
i dont know who the guy is but i do know there is very few teahers in the world that are ninjas that can be verifed from japan and that the original art has been guarded for many years and that they do perform background checks before you learn anything worth value not to say it isnt worht doing but to realize that it is basically a form of terrorism from like 400years ago that came from india china and the middle east to help warring factions in japan to protect them selves and your not going to be batman afterwards and that the schools thta do teahc the knowledge to brfore warfare on others are aware that goverments are now keeping a close eye on that kind of training so i dont really think that as of right now the art of death is going to be taught as the teacher who grants the word ninja to his students basically wrote that he changing the cours of training in his q and a book

Er Pink Bunny you do realise that you're chatting with a load of people that do actually study Ninjutsu? Don't you???


your not going to be batman afterwards

Well I'm going to have to argue with that one!!! There's no way I'm sending back my utility belt :yeleyes: and as for cancelling my order on the "Mobile".... :eek:

:D

sistaninja
17-Oct-2005, 02:14 AM
where is the austrailan ninjitsu academy becaus i have been looking for a dojo and have come up with nothing

This site gives a list of most of the legit bujinkan schools in Australia.

http://duncan.suddenlaunch2.com/

The Ninjutsu Academy is in the Central Coast/Newcastle area, NSW.

Dale Seago
17-Oct-2005, 03:49 AM
. . .and your not going to be batman afterwards. . .

That's all right, I wanted to be Ra's al-Ghul anyway. :cool:


http://www.icicom.up.pt/blog/take2/batman5_34.jpg

Keikai
18-Oct-2005, 07:16 AM
PinkBunny.....

That was probably one of the most ignorant and stupid posts I've ever seen in this forum.

And was it from another young lady??? :bang:

Krissy
08-Nov-2005, 04:36 AM
Hello, I am Krissy's friend Kylie.

I also train under the guidance of Michael Tattoli. As Krissy has pointed out
his training is worth while and benificial to anyone. I, as she has done would recommend it to anybody who wishes to experience the art of Ninjutsu.

When you start training in the Ninjutsu Academy you come together as a family, this is pointed out in classes all over the world, and in doing so you should respect each other. Who are we to judge somebody by age, choice or the discisions they make. The art is not just about fighting as I trust you all know, its about gaining knowledge and wisdom and hopefully enlightenment. Something that we all come toghter in the hope of doing.

My point in reminding you all of that is that you happened to make a statement about Krissy's age. You ranked her knowledge and her wisdom on how many years she has, not only been in the world, but how many years she has trained for. While the path to gaining knowledge and wisdom may contain some aspect of time in it, its by no means everything. The expieriences that you face within that time is what does this. You made the assumption that by being 16 she did not know much. Fair enough there are some 16 year olds out there that dont, but you dont know Krissy personally nor do you train with her. This judgment on her abilities as a 16 year old was not yours to make.
She came here to express a love for the dojo she trains under and to suggest it to another. While nether of us have trained for a long period of time we train hard and dedicate ourselves to it as you do.

Our Sensei's constantly remind us that there is only one person in this art that knows everything about this art and that is soke. And he continually expands the art to contain more as he grows. Showing that wisdom and knowledge is a continual journey. (I am not saying in anyway that you don't already know this by the way) We all learn off each other. While you may have spent more years in the art than what we have that is something for you to share with us, and we will share with you the wisdom and knowledge we hold in life. Our age, gender or race do not effect the wisdom or general knowledge that we hold as we obviously have experienced to gain this. Nobody sees and knows all and so we must feed off each other to gain what they do not have. Not knock each other about because we are younger compared to you.

We both respect your opinion that ideas and values change with age, however all Krissy ever really did was point out her respect and love for not only Michael Tattoli but his dojo's. Why and how did you manage to enter her age into it. You started in this dojo as she did, A white belt, And I am sure you expressed opinions as she has done. How else would you have grown and ganied knowledge.

As one of you did point out there is usually a bond that will grow between both Sensei and student and it usually comes down to the individuals themselves. Krissy and myself obviously enjoy his teaching and she gave her opinion as his student. Something she can do seeing as she trains under his guidance. 'Jimi lives' asked a simple question and Krissy answered. What made you judge her when she appears to have a direct decision about him as she trains with him.

Nether of us have made any comment on this other man as he clearly left before we even started training. We have shown that we don't and will not form an argument or discuss something we have no experience with. So obviously by saying something about Michael we know something of the dojo.
Anyway that was never really the question asked nor the one answerd by her. She told you all her love, respect and valued opinion of what we believe to be a wonderful Sensei but also an active and worthwhile dojo to train under. We have had the experiences of other dojo's and therefore could form an opinion on this. As I have no doubt you would do within your own area.

I am sorry to have reopened this topic to you and if I have made you upset or angry with us. I have not meant to but clearly wished to point out that age is by no means a barrior or wall to one's knowledge or wisdom in life.

I want to thankyou all though. We respect your opinions and only hope that in time those of you that dont will come to accept ours and realise that no-one should be made to feel useless because they are younger then yourself.

Kylie.

Keikai
08-Nov-2005, 06:58 AM
We both respect your opinion that ideas and values change with age, however all Krissy ever really did was point out her respect and love for not only Michael Tattoli but his dojo's. Why and how did you manage to enter her age into it. You started in this dojo as she did, A white belt, And I am sure you expressed opinions as she has done. How else would you have grown and ganied knowledge.


Thats great, no problem, but look back at the thread, although people did question here opinion at such a young age, no one really gave your teacher a hard time, someone asked if he was involved with Wayne Roy and apparently not so then the conversation went on about Wayne, i read through the thread again and i dont think anyone on here is looking down on Mike or his dojo's, well it didnt seem apparent to me in the thread so Mike gets away unscathed!!! :D

Its a bit creepy though when you go on about the love for your teacher on the web, if i told Norm i loved him on here i would never see him again....hmm Spooky.... :D :D :eek:

kouryuu
08-Nov-2005, 08:11 AM
I'd hate to be called "Sensei". When I reach the dizzy heights of Shidoshi, you can all just call me, "Your Worship"
:D

I think that should be "Your Worzleship" :D :D :D :D :Angel:

Peaceful Tiger
08-Nov-2005, 11:26 AM
That's good, I kinda like the Wurzels anyway but don't tell anyone :D

You cant go wrong with such profound lyrics as...

"Oo-ar be that blackbird be? I know where he be, he be up the wurzel-tree and oi be after ee"

or...

"Oi got a brarn new cornboin 'arvester an oil give you the key"

Timeless classics I'm sure you'll agree.

adouglasmhor
08-Nov-2005, 11:28 AM
You know the lead singer of the wurzels is not even from the west country. He is a Scotsman acting a part.

Krissy
08-Nov-2005, 09:59 PM
ok i can see, looking at my own post, how you would beleave that i may have been worried about Mike. Of course i would not like it if you were sitting here bagging out my Sensei but if i thought it was serious and I really did not like what was being said, then I would not say anything, I would have talked to one of the Senseis and brought it to there attention.
My worry was Krissy not Mike. I was more angrey and well disapointed that you would question her opinion because of her age even though she is his student.

Thats for you and Norm to worry about.
We love the Dojo and all the Senseis as well as those people that we train with. As I said you enter a family when you start and if its the clostist thing to a family you have ever had in your life, no matter our age, then of course you will love it all the more. If this seems like something you would not say, think or express then that is for you alone to deal with.With a great deal of respect there comes a certain sort of love for somebody. That is all we ever wished to point out.

kouryuu
09-Nov-2005, 09:18 AM
Thats for you and Norm to worry about.
.

WHY ARE YOU BRINGING ME INTO THIS, I NEVER POSTED ABOUT HER??? :confused:

Lord Spooky
09-Nov-2005, 09:44 AM
ok i can see, looking at my own post, how you would beleave that i may have been worried about Mike. Of course i would not like it if you were sitting here bagging out my Sensei but if i thought it was serious and I really did not like what was being said, then I would not say anything, I would have talked to one of the Senseis and brought it to there attention.
My worry was Krissy not Mike. I was more angrey and well disapointed that you would question her opinion because of her age even though she is his student.

Thats for you and Norm to worry about.
We love the Dojo and all the Senseis as well as those people that we train with. As I said you enter a family when you start and if its the clostist thing to a family you have ever had in your life, no matter our age, then of course you will love it all the more. If this seems like something you would not say, think or express then that is for you alone to deal with.With a great deal of respect there comes a certain sort of love for somebody. That is all we ever wished to point out.

Isn't two people using one account against MAP TOS which you agreed to when signing up for MAP?

So who are you ? Which one of you is using the account?

You really should quote the people you're responding to.

Would this make a bit more sense to everyone?

Its a bit creepy though when you go on about the love for your teacher on the web, if i told Norm i loved him on here i would never see him again....hmm Spooky.... :D :D :eek:


Thats for you and Norm to worry about.
We love the Dojo and all the Senseis as well as those people that we train with. As I said you enter a family when you start and if its the clostist thing to a family you have ever had in your life, no matter our age, then of course you will love it all the more. If this seems like something you would not say, think or express then that is for you alone to deal with.With a great deal of respect there comes a certain sort of love for somebody. That is all we ever wished to point out.

Why should Greg have to worry about it? You seem to be saying that just because he's not proclaiming deep and meaningfull feelings :rolleyes: to his teacher then he is lacking in someway?

You coming off as a bit needy IMHO!! :eek:

Keikai
09-Nov-2005, 09:49 AM
Why should Greg have to worry about it? You seem to be saying that just because he's not proclaiming deep and meaningfull feelings :rolleyes: to his teacher then he is lacking in someway?


I was going to tell Norm then that i loved him just to see his response but then i thought of the problems and pain i would endure on sunday!!! :D

Anyway he only wants me to purve over my wifes jammy's!!!! :cry:

I'm so unwanted!!! :cry:

Lord Spooky
09-Nov-2005, 09:52 AM
:eek: I was going to tell Norm then that i loved him just to see his response but then i thought of the problems and pain i would endure on sunday!!! :D

Anyway he only wants me to purve over my wifes jammy's!!!! :cry:

I'm so unwanted!!! :cry:


The Jammys are good I have to admit :)

I love ya Greg :D

Right Ninja group hug!!! :eek: :D :D :D :D

Keikai
09-Nov-2005, 09:58 AM
WHY ARE YOU BRINGING ME INTO THIS, I NEVER POSTED ABOUT HER??? :confused:

Because we love you Norm!!! :love: :eek:

Keikai
09-Nov-2005, 09:59 AM
:eek:

I love ya Greg :D



I love you too Rich, deeply!! :eek: :D :D

Lord Spooky
09-Nov-2005, 10:03 AM
I love you too Rich, deeply!! :eek: :D :D


er not too deeply we've got Norm at the weekend I don't want to be worn out :D :D

kouryuu
09-Nov-2005, 10:03 AM
I love you too Rich, deeply!! :eek: :D :D

Oh Dear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bang:

Keikai
09-Nov-2005, 10:07 AM
er not too deeply we've got Norm at the weekend I don't want to be worn out :D :D

fnar fnar!!! :D

Keikai
09-Nov-2005, 10:08 AM
Oh Dear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bang:

Yep, that concludes it, its far too creepy!! :eek:

Krissy
10-Nov-2005, 03:00 AM
You seem to be saying that just because he's not proclaiming deep and meaningfull feelings to his teacher then he is lacking in someway?

No sorry i never ment it to sound like that.

You coming off as a bit needy IMHO!!

Yeah, sounds like us, a needy group of lil girls.(Note the sarcasm)

Lord Spooky
10-Nov-2005, 08:27 AM
No sorry i never ment it to sound like that.



Yeah, sounds like us, a needy group of lil girls.(Note the sarcasm)

Now who are we talking to here? Krissy or Kylie??

Keikai
10-Nov-2005, 09:01 AM
Now who are we talking to here? Krissy or Kylie??

God, if its Kylie i have loads of love to give!! ;) :love:

Krissy
10-Nov-2005, 11:29 AM
God, if its Kylie i have loads of love to give!!

Haha. I was just waiting for you to admit it... When can I collect?

Lord Spooky
10-Nov-2005, 11:36 AM
Haha. I was just waiting for you to admit it... When can I collect?


So er who's this Krissy or Kylie?

Are you going to continue and ignore MAP TOS and have two people use one account??

:bang: :bang:

Krissy
10-Nov-2005, 11:45 AM
Are you going to continue and ignore MAP TOS and have two people use one account??

Nope there is only one person using this. Dont worry not ignoring it.

Lord Spooky
10-Nov-2005, 11:48 AM
Nope there is only one person using this. Dont worry not ignoring it.


are you sure? :D now remember the whole Ninja thing you certian Kylie isn't hiding under the desk :D :D

saru1968
10-Nov-2005, 04:12 PM
So er who's this Krissy or Kylie?

Are you going to continue and ignore MAP TOS and have two people use one account??

:bang: :bang:


hang on how does that rule apply to us with Schizophrenia?

do i need an account for all my friends and if one of me friends is banned then am i as well?

:-)

Lord Spooky
10-Nov-2005, 04:21 PM
hang on how does that rule apply to us with Schizophrenia?

do i need an account for all my friends and if one of me friends is banned then am i as well?

:-)


Well Schizophrenia makes you suffer from Hallucinations and Delusions and gives you an altered perception on reality!

Sounds like you're thinking of multiple personality disorder ?

Unless your asking about MAP accounts for the Hallucinations?? :eek:

Didn't you used to work in mental health?? :D :D

saru1968
11-Nov-2005, 04:42 PM
(c) hallucinatory voices giving a running commentary on the patient's behaviour, or discussing the patient among themselves, or other types of hallucinatory voices coming from some part of the body;
(d) persistent delusions of other kinds that are culturally inappropriate and completely impossible, such as religious or political identity, or superhuman powers and abilities (e.g. being able to control the weather, or being in communication with aliens from another world);


:-)

thats one of the 'normal' defs, i like to be different!

Keikai
14-Nov-2005, 07:52 AM
Haha. I was just waiting for you to admit it... When can I collect?

Just checking first....how old are you??? ;) :D :love:

Krissy
16-Nov-2005, 08:44 AM
Just checking first....how old are you???

Kylie is 18. She is older then me.

Lord Spooky
16-Nov-2005, 08:47 AM
Kylie is 18. She is older then me.


Still too young for you Chapman!! :D :D

Keikai
16-Nov-2005, 09:09 AM
Still too young for you Chapman!! :D :D

Hey, if its legal!!!!! :D

Lord Spooky
16-Nov-2005, 09:13 AM
Hey, if its legal!!!!! :D


hmm now what was it Norm called you at the weekend... eechi (sp?) something or other ;) :eek: :D

kouryuu
16-Nov-2005, 09:35 AM
hmm now what was it Norm called you at the weekend... eechi (sp?) something or other ;) :eek: :D

Echi

Krissy
16-Nov-2005, 09:46 AM
Hey, if its legal!!!!!

I was just talking to Kylie and she laughed at this. Though she wonts to know how old you are and if she should start running now.

Lord Spooky
16-Nov-2005, 09:49 AM
He's old well older than me ;)
Forget the running bit jump in the nearest car and floor it :D :D

Krissy
16-Nov-2005, 10:02 AM
He's old well older than me

God how old are we talking here??

Forget the running bit jump in the nearest car and floor it
That bad hay... Poor Greg

saru1968
16-Nov-2005, 10:08 AM
Forget the running bit jump in the nearest car and floor it :D :D


then arrive at the airport, board a plane and go!


Anyhow Greg and spooky come as a pair, its amazing an Instructor and student could be so close!!

;-)

kouryuu
16-Nov-2005, 10:21 AM
then arrive at the airport, board a plane and go!


Anyhow Greg and spooky come as a pair, its amazing an Instructor and student could be so close!!

;-)

Just as long as they don`t start spooning! :eek:

saru1968
16-Nov-2005, 10:24 AM
I don't need to express the concerns of online personalities..

but in this case Greg and spooky(rich) are cool.

Spooky is the kind, sharing side of the duo, he says it with flowers and chocolates

Greg is the straight talking no nonsense half, less word more action( well thats what he says, although Rich says the action is short lived LOL!)

But of course spooky could be jealous of Greg's success with the ladies!!

:-)

Lord Spooky
16-Nov-2005, 10:32 AM
But of course spooky could be jealous of Greg's success with the ladies!!

:-)


Are you defining success as a slap round the face and a drink thrown at him??

:D


anyway I believe this is thread drift !! So on that what was the topic again??

saru1968
16-Nov-2005, 12:57 PM
Are you defining success as a slap round the face and a drink thrown at him??

:D




Yes!


Topic was starting Ninjutsu, then Greg started doing his thing with these too young ladies!!

i'm just worried he will teach them fu iri and they will get the wrong end of the stick!!

:-)

:-)

Krissy
17-Nov-2005, 03:20 AM
Oh we had a rather funny conversation with spooky last night.. :D

Poor Greg is losing his thing with us... Unless he thinks he can do better then Spooky. :p :woo:

whats fu iri.. how are we going to get the wrong end of the stick.

Keikai
17-Nov-2005, 07:33 AM
Poor Greg is losing his thing with us... Unless he thinks he can do better then Spooky. :p :woo:


Losing my thing?? never!!! i am 32 with the energy of a champion racehorse!! :D Dont 18yr olds like this age at the minute?? isnt it fashionable to with an older bloke? :love:

As for spooky, its only cus he wants a bit as well!!!! :eek:

Lord Spooky
17-Nov-2005, 07:41 AM
Losing my thing?? never!!! i am 32 with the energy of a champion racehorse!! :D


Which one Shergar!!

:D

Brad Ellin
17-Nov-2005, 01:48 PM
Okay, as much fun as it has been reading this little soap opera, this thread has gone so far off topic, I've forgotten what the original topic was......

kylie louise
18-Nov-2005, 04:24 AM
this thread has gone so far off topic, I've forgotten what the original topic was......

umm well it was on starting ninjutsu, mike and wether the words of young ladies should count for something..

now back to the soap opera :D

Dont 18yr olds like this age at the minute?? isnt it fashionable to with an older bloke?

Hahaha. Yeah it is to a point, but then there is going out with somebody old enough to be your dad...

but dont worry your not there yet. lol.

energy of a champion racehorse!!

Now that sounds like fun... How much like spooky are you?

As for spooky, its only cus he wants a bit as well!!!!

Hahaha...

Lord Spooky
18-Nov-2005, 07:40 AM
LOL

Mr K is right! I think everything has been covered for the thread!

May as well lock it!

saru1968
18-Nov-2005, 08:54 AM
yep before the missus see's it LOL !

As for Fu iri 'insering the stick' its a hanbo technique from the Kukishindenryu ryu-ha(school).

and as for grabbing the wrong end i suspect Greg would enjoy!! LOL

mind you i'm still trying to find my sides after the champion racehorse comment!!

LOL

:-)

Lord Spooky
18-Nov-2005, 08:56 AM
yep before the missus see's it LOL !


He has! Greg's posted a few times on the thread!! ;)

:D

kylie louise
18-Nov-2005, 09:24 AM
As for Fu iri 'insering the stick' its a hanbo technique from the Kukishindenryu ryu-ha(school).

Ohhh Ok thanx. We understand now.

May as well lock it!

Lock away.

Keikai
18-Nov-2005, 09:40 AM
Okay, as much fun as it has been reading this little soap opera, this thread has gone so far off topic, I've forgotten what the original topic was......

Yep, but you have got to admit its a happy off topic!! :D

saru1968
18-Nov-2005, 10:25 PM
actually it is one of the reason i like MAP is the witty comments!

:-)

Lord Spooky
18-Nov-2005, 10:43 PM
actually it is one of the reason i like MAP is the witty comments!

:-)


Where

*Spooky looks around confused, probably due to the combination of drink and reading stuff posted by Xenmaster*

:D :D

xen
18-Nov-2005, 11:16 PM
Where

*Spooky looks around confused, probably due to the combination of drink and reading stuff posted by Xenmaster*

:D :D

*...opens eyes and shakes head...*

whoa there, spooky, i've had just this REALLY freaky dream...something about a revolver, a goat and a mountain...it was out-there, dude, i could have sworn that the FBI were trying force-feed me Tic-tacs...gotta stay off the cheese before my afternoon siesta...keeps giving me the weirdest dreams ;)

Lord Spooky
18-Nov-2005, 11:18 PM
I should be in bed I have to train in the morning!!
I'll tell Greg I was kept up by you Xen :D :D

xen
18-Nov-2005, 11:26 PM
I should be in bed I have to train in the morning!!
I'll tell Greg I was kept up by you Xen :D :D

it's still early man, what time do you train? 4am or something...? :cool: