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Ninja Monkey
12-Aug-2009, 03:30 AM
could some of u help me i need a good extreme conditionin routine
containing
stretching
weight liftig
kicking excises
punchin excises
running
and gymnastics


iam 5'5
weight 208lbs
age 19
male

self taught martail artist

my flexablity is omost maxed
i got very good speed
and kicks

and i dont really get tired

could someone help me out to think of a new routine thanks:)

Hint like my new avtar pic

GaryT85
12-Aug-2009, 10:40 AM
rosstraining (http://http://www.rosstraining.com/)




that site is your new routine :cool:

Moi
12-Aug-2009, 10:44 AM
rosstraining (http://http://www.rosstraining.com/)




that site is your new routine :cool:

Then find a gym.:cool:

Ninja Monkey
12-Aug-2009, 08:50 PM
thanks ill check it out

Yohan
12-Aug-2009, 09:26 PM
could some of u help me i need a good extreme conditionin routine
containing
stretching
weight liftig
kicking excises
punchin excises
running
and gymnastics


iam 5'5
weight 208lbs
age 19
male

self taught martail artist

my flexablity is omost maxed
i got very good speed
and kicks

and i dont really get tired

could someone help me out to think of a new routine thanks:)

Hint like my new avtar pic

Your question is so general you aren't really going to get very good responses. Have you done any of your own research yet? What are your goals?

Fire-quan
12-Aug-2009, 09:27 PM
Ninja Monkey - remember: don't just train hard, train smart. The wrong thing can be practised to an extreme level, with total warrior spirt... but damn well still be the wrong thing at the end of it all!

Set specific goals, then find the people who can coach you to achieve them. That way you'll make the best of your gift.

Ninja Monkey
12-Aug-2009, 11:28 PM
ur right fire >< my main goal is pretty basic

i just want to have a good phyiscal strong body

wit Fast high kicks wit good balance

gymnastics level flips and flexablilty

and a very high cardiovasiclay rateing

after im self taught and i wana stay self taught

mainly cuz i wana be 100% different from everyone eles

i also know alot of weapon based moves

i taught myself the bo staff numchaku and short sword

Dean Winchester
13-Aug-2009, 08:06 AM
ur right fire >< my main goal is pretty basic

i just want to have a good phyiscal strong body

wit Fast high kicks wit good balance

Then get to a dojo/gym and train with a good kicker. Workouts go side by side with the actual study of the art in question.

after im self taught and i wana stay self taught

mainly cuz i wana be 100% different from everyone eles

You could do boxing and you’re still going to be different to everyone else in that regard the style doesn’t matter. The thing is principles of combat tend to be universal it’s generally the cultural and historical aspects that make the “styles” different. Pop on over to the weapons forum and have a look at the Western Swordsmanship/Japanese swordsmanship comparison thread.

Self study is not wise nowadays, if it ever has been, and not needed. The thing is to effectively teach yourself a martial art you’re going to need to test theory out and put ideas into action.

Now the only way to do this would be to either find an MMA gym and ask for a friendly match, if they’d even let you do that or get into real fights which of course is not practical or even sensible.

Now I’m going to get harsh

i also know alot of weapon based moves

No you don’t!

Self study with a weapon is ridiculous and dangerous and just because you’ve learnt to twirl something round and no longer whack yourself round the head every time doesn’t mean you’ve learnt anything related to weapon arts.

i taught myself the bo staff numchaku and short sword

And here we have a good example of a basic error when using self study. Now if you’re going to learn a weapon then don’t you feel it’s a good idea to get the name right?

If you don’t know what the dam thing is called it doesn’t show you as someone who is serious about studying a weapon and you should always be serious when it comes to weapons.

How have you learnt something like sword on your own? How can you learn about timing and combative distance if you are not consistently going up against another individual who is of a higher skill level than yourself?

Martial arts are all about engaging another human being and self improvement only comes when you go against someone who is better than yourself. Self training does very little other than ingrain bad habits.

As far as fitness goes listen to the guys and gals here they know their stuff. As far as dedicated MA training goes; get yourself down to a Dojo.

Fire-quan
13-Aug-2009, 10:02 AM
ur right fire >< my main goal is pretty basic

i just want to have a good phyiscal strong body

wit Fast high kicks wit good balance

gymnastics level flips and flexablilty

and a very high cardiovasiclay rateing

after im self taught and i wana stay self taught

mainly cuz i wana be 100% different from everyone eles

i also know alot of weapon based moves

i taught myself the bo staff numchaku and short sword

Hav you considered looking at wushu? Loads of wushu stuff can be self learned off the internet, if you have the basic physical skill. Then you can add in any stuff you want.

I know everyone always says people have to go to gyms, but then when you consider break dancers, and people who do tricking and free running, allthough they share and learn off each other, a lot of the really good ones are mostly self taught.

Dean Winchester
13-Aug-2009, 12:18 PM
Gymnastic type endeavours can probably be self taught, to a degree, even though I still feel there is potential for harm without proper instruction.

The dancing comparison doesn't really work. Break dancing is a solo performance where as martial arts are about engaging with another person in a physical sense.

Timing, targeting and distance are all things that can only be developed via person to person contact and from studying under a qualified instructor.

Performance wushu to me is more like gymnastics rather than a combat based activity, nothing wrong with that but correct me if I'm wrong in that it is more about the art and less about the martial?

Also as far as Ninja Monkey goes he needs to be shown that to learn a weapon requires proper tuition even if it is just for performance type stuff. To encourage someone to undertake weapons study without proper instruction is in my opinion very irresponsible.

Ninja Monkey
17-Aug-2009, 10:12 PM
ur right dean but i train bo staff wit friends n stuff and he knews how to use it but i got better then him in 2 weeks i can spin it around my neck waist i can spin it fast as possabloe and switch hands i know the basc strikes wit it as well

Yohan
18-Aug-2009, 01:28 AM
Hav you considered looking at wushu? Loads of wushu stuff can be self learned off the internet, if you have the basic physical skill. Then you can add in any stuff you want.

I know everyone always says people have to go to gyms, but then when you consider break dancers, and people who do tricking and free running, allthough they share and learn off each other, a lot of the really good ones are mostly self taught.

I'm going to go with Firequan on this one. It sounds like Wushu would cover all your bases. Flashy high kicks and weapon routines, ridiculous awesome gymnastics, flexibility and cardio.

I wouldn't bother trying to teach yourself anymore. If you want to do some fitness stuff, you can find some great resources on here. I can even give you some good routines and things, but you should try reading some threads first. I give pretty standard advice to everyone.

Yohan
18-Aug-2009, 01:33 AM
ur right fire >< my main goal is pretty basic

i just want to have a good phyiscal strong body

wit Fast high kicks wit good balance

gymnastics level flips and flexablilty

and a very high cardiovasiclay rateing

after im self taught and i wana stay self taught

mainly cuz i wana be 100% different from everyone eles

i also know alot of weapon based moves

i taught myself the bo staff numchaku and short sword

I'm gonna be nice to you because I like you. Go find somewhere good to train and don't worry about being different from everyone else. Learn the arts, make them your own, and put your own flair to it. Bruce Lee's stuff was different from everyone else and he wasn't self taught. Muhammad Ali was different from everyone else, and he wasn't self taught. Joe Calzhage is pretty unique, and even his dad taught him out of books and found him sparring partners and coaches from local gyms.

Dean Winchester
18-Aug-2009, 02:08 PM
Yohan makes a good point. As for weapons please train under a proper teacher, you say you trained with a friend but from the sound of it he was probably not under proper instruction either.

Please note I'm not on about tricking etc I'm talking about learning a real combative system.

Also for future reference it called a Bo not Bo staff.

For your interest:

YouTube - Yagyu Shingan-ryu Taijutsu [Bojutsu]