"The way of the intercepting fist?"

[Adam]

Why is JKD called this? I saw a video clip with someone explaining that the point was the hit somebody as they closed the distance and stop them from advancing, is this correct?

[Matt_Bernius]

The video clip I guessing you saw was from Bruce Lee's appearance on Longstreet (a want to say). Basically while JKD's name is "Way of the Intercepting Fist" the key word to pay attention to in there is "Intercepting." As Lee even states in the clip, the JKD philosophy is to percieve your opponent's technique or intention and then intercept it with your own techinque. That may me hitting someone while they're advancing. It might not be. It all depends on ths situation.

- Matt

[YODA]

Adam: Have a look at my article on the Stop-Hit

Bruce Lee consirered interception (Stop-hitting) as the most efficient means of defence. He took it primarily from fencing.

[Adam]

I see. Thank you :)

And no, it wasn't Brucie in the interview, far from it

[CKava]

Didn't Bruce Lee later say that he wished he hadn't called it "The way of the intercepting fist?" or am I getting muddled up?

[YODA]

Originally posted by CKava
Didn't Bruce Lee later say that he wished he hadn't called it "The way of the intercepting fist?" or am I getting muddled up?


Yes- in fact he pretty much regretted naming it at all. He realised that people would mistake it for the "way" and argue about what it is ans isn't - he was right.

[Yukimushu]

Originally posted by YODA
Yes- in fact he pretty much regretted naming it at all. He realised that people would mistake it for the "way" and argue about what it is ans isn't - he was right.

Yoda's right... He didn't want to name it, because then the name "Jeet Kune Do" means it's another style. But, the concept B.Lee refers to by naming it Jeet Kune Do has been around even before Bruce Lee, but Bruce was the person to bring the concept of it into the lime light. Hence the fact that he said "I have not invented a new style."

Bruce Lee focused on always being in attacking mode & never defencive. You see in some of his actual footage, he never really defends... Even when the opponent is attacking him, he is trying to intercept the movement because at the time the attacker is mid movement, he is at his most vunerable.

[BryanX]

Looks like I learned something new today(actually it was yesterday that I read this). Thanks.

[Yukimushu]

Heehee, glad we could help :) Make sure you never lose that desire to learn, or your martial arts will suffer...

Interception is a great tactic which is highly under practised by alot of people, it's always best to practise the art of interception with a friend. Because then you can learn to read the movements made before an attack. But, you've always got to be ready at any second to throw that interceptive punch or kick.

[BryanX]

Originally posted by Yukimushu
Heehee, glad we could help :) Make sure you never lose that desire to learn, or your martial arts will suffer...

Yes, I hope that day comes around soon. No, not the last line after your comma. :D

Interception is a great tactic which is highly under practised by alot of people, it's always best to practise the art of interception with a friend. Because then you can learn to read the movements made before an attack. But, you've always got to be ready at any second to throw that interceptive punch or kick. [/B]

:cool:

[Yukimushu]

Interception is an amazing tool, on one day I sparred with 3 or 4 black belts in tkd one after another, and neither of them managed to get a sucessful hit simply because i was able to intercept their movement; by either attacking them as they made their attack, or blocking there attack then counter attacking.

[BryanX]

Originally posted by Yukimushu
Interception is an amazing tool, on one day I sparred with 3 or 4 black belts in tkd one after another, and neither of them managed to get a sucessful hit simply because i was able to intercept their movement; by either attacking them as they made their attack, or blocking there attack then counter attacking.

Hey, that's pretty good.http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

[Who am I?]

My tkd teacher doesn´t like me learning or using jkd

[Yukimushu]

I have the same thing; I dont think my kickboxing teacher likes me learning Jujitsu & boxing else where... but then I don't really care because im not learning for his sake, im learning for mine.


For a while (2 years roughly) I've been practising this effective moving kick which is very useful and can be executed with speed and from most posistions. And about a week ago I caught the teachers cheek twice with two pefect executions of this kick, he didn't see it comming and didn't expect it because of the timing.

Afterwards he said "You should go into compitition joe, we've taught you some good kicks there...", all the time im thinkin " Na, i've taught myself some good kicks there, it's taken two years to use them effectivly."

I really dont think he likes the idea of me practising and teaching myself away from the dojo...

[punong_guro]

jeet kune do cantonese meaning the way of the intercepting fist could have just as well been called jeet tek do the way of the intercepting kick its a reference to a stop hit/kick in wich you catch your opponent as he makes his beat in simpelist meaning but not limiting to a counter attack on the opponents motion

[Topher]

Originally posted by punong_guro
jeet kune do cantonese meaning the way of the intercepting fist could have just as well been called jeet tek do the way of the intercepting kick its a reference to a stop hit/kick in wich you catch your opponent as he makes his beat in simpelist meaning but not limiting to a counter attack on the opponents motion

I think he used 'fist' in the title because all unarmed combate is genrally depicted as a fist.

[Yukimushu]

Originally posted by Homer J Simpson
I think he used 'fist' in the title because all unarmed combate is genrally depicted as a fist.

Aye, thats right... thats the reason he used the word fist :)

[shuyun3]

thats after discarding "way of the intercepting head" as a useful name. LOL

[Topher]

Originally posted by shuyun3
thats after discarding "way of the intercepting head" as a useful name. LOL

What do you mean discarded, "the way of the intercepting fist" is just a translation of "Jeet Kune Do"

[ap Oweyn]

It was a joke chief.

[Kenshin Himura]

I agree .I have also seen that Bruce Lee's video.But how is it posible to apply that?

[Yukimushu]

I agree .I have also seen that Bruce Lee's video.But how is it posible to apply that?

Read through the thread and you'll see examples and experiances...

[Chase]

Read through the thread and you'll see examples and experiances...

Hi Yukimushu,

I have, & I think Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do is an inspiation to me me getting off my *** & adapting different aspects of martial arts to my chair, not only technique, but philosophies, ways of reading the opponent & taking the direct line of advantage. I know I only understand some of the basic concepts of JKD, but then there's a lot of JKD that I feel doesn't apply to me & I think Bruce would agree if he were with me for a moment, & believe me, I wish I could talk to him. :(
Ingat ka,
P.S. I mean no disrespect.

[hedgehogey]

"If anyone ever says jeet kune do is this or that let the name jeet kune do be forggoten forever. It's just a name, don't sweat it."-Bruce Lee

[Kenpo Kicker]

I agree with jkd philosophy immensly. You guys are talking about what I think is right about jkd :) . I wish I could cross-train in it. There is fake jkd over here or just wrong understanding of it. I read tao of jeet kune do and it helps me alot. I have not finished it but plan on reading it more than once :) . I could not believe I only got it for 12 bucks.

Edit: Got a question for you jkd guys/girls. I use a kickboxing stlye guard with some karate/tkd blocks but not over blocking though. I am wondering if having your guard up is good in a street fight. I learned the kickboxing style guard in tkd (cross-trained instructor teaches kickboxing). If this is not good for the street what would you all recommend or if ya got something better. I also have a custom hand position but sux against punches to my head. Maybe if I practiced intercepting rather than blocking my custom guard would help /shrug. It just sux for sparring punches to my head though.

[Yukimushu]

Hi Yukimushu,

I have, & I think Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do is an inspiation to me me getting off my *** & adapting different aspects of martial arts to my chair, not only technique, but philosophies, ways of reading the opponent & taking the direct line of advantage. I know I only understand some of the basic concepts of JKD, but then there's a lot of JKD that I feel doesn't apply to me & I think Bruce would agree if he were with me for a moment, & believe me, I wish I could talk to him. :(
Ingat ka,
P.S. I mean no disrespect.

lol i dont know weather that was directed at me with any anger or unappreciation :) But non the less, bruce lee is still an inspiration to me today, although i've gotten over the stage where i wish to be like bruce lee and emulate him; his work, life and sheer determination is still an inspiration to me.

[Chase]

lol i dont know weather that was directed at me with any anger or unappreciation :) But non the less, bruce lee is still an inspiration to me today, although i've gotten over the stage where i wish to be like bruce lee and emulate him; his work, life and sheer determination is still an inspiration to me.

Hi Yuki,
Neither, I don't want to emulate him, & probably couldn't even if I tried, but some of his concepts have heavily influenced my ma & the way I approach life in general. :D

[Yukimushu]

Hi Yuki,
Neither, I don't want to emulate him, & probably couldn't even if I tried, but some of his concepts have heavily influenced my ma & the way I approach life in general. :D

Definatly, his work has had a heavy influence (for the good)on my life...

[pug32]

Edit: Got a question for you jkd guys/girls. I use a kickboxing stlye guard with some karate/tkd blocks but not over blocking though. I am wondering if having your guard up is good in a street fight. I learned the kickboxing style guard in tkd (cross-trained instructor teaches kickboxing). If this is not good for the street what would you all recommend or if ya got something better. I also have a custom hand position but sux against punches to my head. Maybe if I practiced intercepting rather than blocking my custom guard would help /shrug. It just sux for sparring punches to my head though.

MY backgorund is kick boxing originally before JKD and i beleive in sparring keep the gaurd covering your head and ribs as best as possible (probably closest to a boxers gaurd). If the opponent knows what they are doing they may draw a block as a reference for the next attack. Some of the original JKD drills do that to perfection :D

The fence is often used in "street" situations to usure in the heat of the moment no-one gets too close and you can judge your distance well. Using your judgment it may then be necessary to throw first then keep hitting until its done (really good article about engaging in the articles section). The fence isn't so much of a gaurd but helps keep the distance in check when everything looks like it may go off. It is also less obvious! getting up on your toes bobbing and weaving usually would guarantee a ruck!

depends on what works for you but personnally not being hit in the head or anywhere else is usually the best policy for me :)

[pug32]

thats after discarding "way of the intercepting head" as a useful name. LOL


Dunno is it gone in sixty seconds where vinny jones does a fantastic destruction with his head :D

[Yukimushu]

Whenever im talking to someone whom is just starting out in learning martial arts, I always try to make the recommendation of reading one of B.Lee's books written on the philosophy and concept of JKD.

I personally feel it's a great concept to understand when first starting.

[inosanto1]

Why on earth does your instructor dislike you training in jkd, he/she should be happy that you wish to learn more. Maybe that is the point, they probably think you will find the weakness in their art. that really annoys me!

Good luck in yor jkd and tkd

Mark :D

[Chase]

Hi Mark, Good point! I've learned a lot of different stuff, but I've learned along the way to use the techniques, whether from stylized forms, or seperate drills that apply to empty hand as well as weapons. The use of as many different weapons as possible is, for me, one way to gain versatility in empty hand.

[LaWnY]

Juz wanna say that Bruce lee is indeed a geat person. He is willingly to show the world what he had learned. He is an inspiration to me too :) All the books that he wrote is simply great in helping people to understand about martial art and fighting...

[Right_Hander73]

Jeet Kune Do is great! "Attack like a shadow, Respond like an echo".