Systema; The Russian Spy martial arts?

[LovernotFighter]

Hey, has anyone heard of Systema? I had ran across a website about it being a KGB fighting style. Systema originated from Russia and taught to the russian special forces team. The same team that went into an Afriganistan palace and shot the whole royal family when they threatened the russian government.

Guns, knifes, shovels and real life fighting tactics are taught. No belts and traditional martial arts yin yang. Taught by ex-soviet spy in Toronto. seems like a kick a$$ art.

if anyone has heard of or interested in the art, please feel free to respond.




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[Kaith Rustaz]

It's been refered to as "Tai Chi on Crack" by some folks I hang out with who train in it. Very interesting stuff. We've had a few articles on it in MartialTalk Magazine (December issue had a few, its a free download)

MT has a number of Systema folks on it:
http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?&forumid=70

You can also try http://www.rmaforum.com

If I had the time I'd check it out as I've heard some really good things about it.

[RobP]

There are a lot of video clips and articles at www.systemauk.com

[pesilat]

Originally posted by Kaith Rustaz
It's been refered to as "Tai Chi on Crack" by some folks I hang out with who train in it.

ROFLMAO!!!

I've not heard that description - but it fits.

Regarding the subject of this thread, though - I don't know how accurate "Russian Spy" martial art would be. As far as I know, it was taught primarily to Russian special forces (Spetsnaz) and, I think, some law enforcement types.

What little I've seen of it has been very good and very interesting.

Mike

[Cain]

[stoopid mode] Is systema the same as Sambo? [/stoopid mode]

|Cain|

[RobP]

No, sambo was formulated in the 1920's from judo and various native wrestling styles. Today there is sports sambo and combat sambo (which is the standard military hand-to-hand system).
There may be some slight cross-over but the underlying principles differ.

[Cain]

I see, Those russian arts sound interesting, in fact I heard a lot of good things about them when I searched around, seems like it's the BJJ of Russia ;)

Thanx,

|Cain|

[Jim]

LovernotFighter, have you attended any classes yet?

[SoKKlab]

S.M.E.R.S.H (Death to Spies)
is the Soviet WW2 era 'Spy/ Anti-Spy'
Martial Art (Rarely practiced these days).

[STASH]

It's been a while since I've posted, I just dont have the time anymore...

Anyways, I happen to live in Toronto, about 45 mins away from the school. Myself and 2 buddies of mine (we've all got MA experience and have had our share of real situations) are going to check it out this Friday.

Maybe I'll write an article about this experience if I have the time, I'm a little skeptical right now to be honest.

[pesilat]

Originally posted by STASH
It's been a while since I've posted, I just dont have the time anymore...

Anyways, I happen to live in Toronto, about 45 mins away from the school. Myself and 2 buddies of mine (we've all got MA experience and have had our share of real situations) are going to check it out this Friday.

Maybe I'll write an article about this experience if I have the time, I'm a little skeptical right now to be honest.

I'm not sure Systema is something I'd be interested in devoting a lot of time to pursue - but what I've seen has been very interesting and very good.

Mike

[shonuff]

Systema is one of these former military fighting systems like SCARS and TFT.

Sambo is the Russian BJJ. Combat Sambo is the one developed for the army. Sambo's throwing techniques are based on judo. On the ground it adopted much of judo but concentrated on the native wrestling submission techniques (leg locks).

Systema has sambo in it. But it also has the knife training and stand up fighting.

[krys]

Systema and ROSS (other russian martial art) are great systems... since I practice them they already boosted my skills.

These systems were designed to produce good fighters in a very short time (soldiers can't wait for years to become operationals).... therefore no nonsense, no hidden techniques, no competition, no belts, no rank...

Another good point is that a lot of the russian teachers have field experience... most of what they will teach you has been applied in the field... speaking of knive throwing/fighting for example you better train with somebody who already used it for real.

[Jordan]

tell me where I can look at some online, and I will be greatful!