weights after training

[pistinbroke]

just wondering if there would be any problem with weight training after my taekwondo training not enough days in the week for me to do it on a diffrent night but could do a hour before or after at the place i train ..is there anything i could take to keep my strenth up or take after cheeeers

[KingNoodle]

The only problem would be having to exercise caution, as you don't want to be overly tired during the TKD lesson. Oh yeah, and it could be too much all in one training session.

I'd say if you did do your weights on the same night as TKD, then do them before. The taekwondo after the weight training would burn fat or speed your metabolism or something. As for taking something to keep strength up, a protein shake after the weight training would be good, especially if you could take a bag with you or something, or something which helps you recover faster, such as San Fierce.

If you did have supplements straight after your weights (especially protein shakes, as they can sit in your stomach), then you should probably finish and have the protein or whatever about ten, fifteen minutes before Tae Kwon Do starts.

[Axelator]

I think as long as you're not overtraining throught the rest of the week it's ok.

During TKD could you drink poweraid or something? Also is it possible for you to eat some high carb/protein meal between TKD and the gym?

If it is do so. Also make sure you get eight hours sleep.

[Custom Volusia]

I weight train every day. MA is done when I can get it in with no regards too my weight training schedule since I put that first. I actually do TKD also so I think I can tell you that I have no issues with participating in class after some pretty intense weight training.

Both above posts make good points so I will just back them up. It would be best to weight train BEFORE TKD. If you go after you will be more tired and that has MUCH more effect on weight lifting then being a bit tired has on training TKD. If we were talking BJJ it might be different.

A protein shake after is a great idea for three reasons. 1) replace all the protein that you used during your work out 2) provide your muscles with the required protein for them to grow 3) provide you some energy for your TKD class

Ideal time for a shake after a workout is between 30-60 minutes.

A poweraide or something along those lines would also be good for two reasons 1) after a rigorous workout your bodies blood sugar levels are low and the simple carbs in a sport drink like that will bump them up to a post workout level, 2) this will prevent you from feeling run-down after weight training and into your TKD

Agree with plenty of sleep also.

[CatWise]

OK, I am going to throw a ranch here, but here it goes.

First of all, what type of weight training are you doing? Power lifting, body building, strength training or what? This makes a big difference in what you are trying to accomplish and what type of exercise you do. The weigh, set and rep amounts would all be different. For example, a power lifter uses heavier weight, less sets and small reps. A body builder would do more of what is called a super set etc. Toning etc. low weight, lots of sets and lots of reps.

If your goal is to rev up the metabolism and done the body by doing a multi joint compound movement, then I would recommend that you do the weight training AFTER the TKD. If you are more into strength and power lifting, then the other way around.

Now, to energy and nutrition. Your nutrition, calorie intake and snakes should be appropriate to your exercise regiment. I don't know what you are doing or how much you are training. I train a lot. I do Kick Boxing 3 times a week, Weight training 4 times a week (this is preceded by 30 minutes of cardio on empty stomach), plus 4 hours of Martial Arts training and 2 hours or sparring or weapons training. In order to sustain this regiment, I eat 7 meals a day, no junk food or any kind, no sugar or white grains.
After weight training, I have 2 oz. of DARK organic Chocolate, this helps to recover faster.

But the key for anyone training a lot, and especially for anyone that is also weight training is REST. You HAVE to make sure that you give your body the recovery period it needs. You need to sleep and allow the parasympathetic nervous system have a chance to repair. You should make sure that you get at least 8 hours of sleep every night. So, if you eat right, and get planty of rest, you should have no problem doing both on the same night. As to what do to before or after, again, it really depands on what type of weight lifting you are doing.

[pistinbroke]

somthing to think about weight training is somthing i need to do and have not yet got in to it due to lack of time familey ect tone ing and strenth is some thing i would like i train tkd on mon wens and a sparring sesion on a sunday kickboxing thurs and submission fighting on a sunday as well so about 8 -9 hours aweek

[CatWise]

Sounds like a good work out in terms of training and technique.

The question is, what are you looking to get out of weight training? I am not sure if I understood what you wrote above. You are looking to tone and to build up strength?

If so, I would recommend that you work your weight training AFTER you TKD training. In this type of routine, you will be exhausting your muscles to a point of fatique and they will need to recover before next strenous exercise. So, if you attempt to traing TKD after weight training, you will not get a whole lot out of it. You will be simply too tired to keep your technique and form in, you will get frastrated.

The weight training doesn't need to be long training sessions (2 hours in the gym), you can do 4 short session. For example, Arms one day - 2 sets for bicepts and 2 for tri-cepts. Shoulders and Chest on another day. Legs on another day and back another day. You could get a really good workout in 45 minutes if you concentrate of working out and not talking to people and taking too much time between sets.

[pistinbroke]

thanks great help yes tone and strength is wot i would like just looking in to diets at the moment ....so if i went in to a gym to tone and strengthen would i choose a weight with some resistance or somthing a bit lighter plus how many reps thanks

[CatWise]

Here is what I would recommend:
Do super sets (meaning you work out one muscle group right after another). Like doing a set of leg extensions and immidiately after leg curls.

Do 6 set of about 8-10 reps. The first set would be low weight to warm up the muscle. The second, a bit higher weight. The third, fourth and fifth should be with a weight that you can ONLY do about 8-10 reps with. The 6ths set would be witht he weight of your second set and do as many reps as possible.

Keep the weight so it tires the muscle but not to the point that you loose your form and technique. Concentrate on the technique and making sure that you are REALLY working the muscle. For Example, you are going chest press with dumbells. One count would go up and 3 counts down, wait at the bottom so your body registers the weight and repeat.

Change your routine every month or so.

[pistinbroke]

brill thank very much for the response