About various Martial Arts

[BruceForever]

I kinda agree with Bruce Lee that there's no such thing as the perfect martial arts and skills, all depend on one's preference and conditions.
However, i definitely believe that there gotta be one STRONGER than the other. In my opinion, Karate, Judo(which also includes Jujitsu of coz), Muay Thai and Tae Kwon Do are probably the most useful and practical martial arts of the world. (I personally dun consider Jee Kung Do as a certain marital art style. If Bruce himself believed in 'formless', how could he create another style? that sounds contradictory aight?! What I believe is JKD is a philosophy more than a form...well, let's go back to the main topic ) Compared to Kung Fu, which focuses more on styles and make themselves too much fancy but too less powerful, these martial arts are more straightforward and dynamic.
What do you say?

[LilBunnyRabbit]

Heh. Kind of interesting that you'd include TKD and Judo as two of the practical ones. You've probably also annoyed a few people by saying that Judo includes Jujitsu, but I know what you mean.

Straightforward and dynamic aren't necessarily good things. Its also quite evident that you've not had that much experience of some of the arts you mention, outside of films. Try them.

[BruceForever]

Hey
thanx for replying, i am new to this page and you are the first one that responded my questions.
Well compared to the rest of them, TKD might sound a lil bit fancy but still practical when compared to rest of the world
Jujitsu is a former type of Judo, just like Tang Soo Te being the former type of Karate. The only difference i c between Judo and Jujitsu is that Judo is more like a sport but Jujistsu is more deadly. What do you guys say?
Hey hey..don forget my first question on the top....

[LilBunnyRabbit]

Well compared to the rest of them, TKD might sound a lil bit fancy but still practical when compared to rest of the world

I've come across some incredibly practical kung fu, and some fairly pathetic karate. In fact I've found more good kung fu than I have karate. I can even name four instances where I've seen karateka try to use horse stance in a fight. This isn't saying that there isn't good karate, or bad kung fu, just that you can't really generalise with such diverse styles.


Well compared to the rest of them, TKD might sound a lil bit fancy but still practical when compared to rest of the world

Depends on the TKD school. There're lots of 'sport' TKD schools around that couldn't really be described as practical. Its also one of the largest areas for McDojos to show up.


Jujitsu is a former type of Judo, just like Tang Soo Te being the former type of Karate.

The jujitsu judo thing is the wrong way round, judo was developed from jujitsu because there were too many training injuries.


If Bruce himself believed in 'formless', how could he create another style? that sounds contradictory aight?!

I was always under the impression he believed in having your own style, and not limiting yourself rather than formless. However I do actually agree partly with the JKD as philosophy rather than style thing, as that's how I've always seen it. Then again, I've got no complaints with someone naming their particular style JKD.

One final thing to remember. There are over two thousand styles of kung fu alone in the world. Imagine the total number of different martial arts. If one martial art was stronger, you'd think that style would be more prevalent and better known. However the most popular styles are those which have the highest number of 'sub-styles' as it were.

[BruceForever]

I am glad that you consider JKD a philosophy more than a kind of syle. However, Bruce's JKD is based on various forms of martial arts, besides those skills he created himself. His 'one-inch punch' came from Chinese Wing Chun for sure. But he also learned high kick and side kick from Chuck Norris's karate, nunchaku from Danny Inosanto, Judo from Gene Lebell, bouncing step from Ali. There were many examples, just to mention a few here, so i personally dun take JKD as Kung Fu
And yes you are right, there are 2 thousands different styles of Kung Fu. The word Kung Fu is a cantonese term of 'Chinese Martial Arts', I've always hate people putting a = between Kung Fu and a particular form of martial arts. However, as long as I've seen and heard, Kung Fu has been criticized more than praised. Hung Kar style, for example, is a kind of martial arts based on animal forms, so as Ying Yit fist. There are alot of chinese martial arts focusing on following the forms of a certain something. There's once I watched a martial arts competition between Japanese Karate and Drunken Boxing, and those Chinese martial artists were beat up like shxx.
While the main stream of Kung Fu doesn't seem to work, I am not concluding all of them. Eight Extreme Fist for example, is a kind of deadly martial art that serves to kill the opponent within one or 2 moves. However, strange that people in China never promote such dynamic thing. My father is an Eight Extreme Fist and I have seen how powerful the art is through his Sifu, it really kills.

[LilBunnyRabbit]

While the main stream of Kung Fu doesn't seem to work, I am not concluding all of them. Eight Extreme Fist for example, is a kind of deadly martial art that serves to kill the opponent within one or 2 moves. However, strange that people in China never promote such dynamic thing. My father is an Eight Extreme Fist and I have seen how powerful the art is through his Sifu, it really kills.

Well, I tried to save ya from yourself. But never mind. As for this Eight Extreme Fist art killing, you've seen it used to kill have you? Mind telling me where and when so I can call the police?

I'd also like to add to anyone doing a web search for Eight Extreme Fist to engage their family friendly website screening program first. Or you could go by its other name, Bajiquan.

[FullContactKid]

Jiu Jitsu precedes Judo...............and I thnk that TKD and Judo in most schools are too sport oriented. Have you ever seen an Escrimador in action? Til you see them dont think that your above arts are the most practical. Why does everyone always seem to forget about wrestling too? I do agree with your claim about Muay Thai tho in my opinion it has some of the hardest strikes in the MA world.

[Yukimushu]

Why was he banned lol?

[surgingshark]

Because of another thread that he went ballistic in.

[Yukimushu]

Oooh :) I guessed so.

[shuyun3]

how balistic do you have to be to be banned?

[Kalifallen]

Insane, I'd say.

About that philosophy vs. form bit. I think all martial arts have philosophy in them so it doesn't matter if Bruce gets all caught up in philosophy talk. His art is formlessness. He sees it as the highest form a person can achieve. Formlessness = void = creativity. When you have that you can use any kick, punch, throw, etc, from any style and make it work for you. That's formlessness.