sleeve and lapel grip

[warren]

hi to all member's,
my name is warren i'm new to this group and have been looking at some of the photo's,isaw one of a girl executing a throw known as sweeping loin or hari goshi,in this throw i noticed a sleeve and lapel grab which say's to me that the throw was being executed the same way as a judo player would execute the throw,not that i'm saying there is anything wrong with that but would like to know how many jiujitsu people out there execute throw's from the judo traditional sleeve and lapel grip.

warren

[Freeform]

Me, but thats because I've got a background in Judo as wel ;)

In Ju Jitsu its always been my opinion to do whatever works, if they're wearing a jacket/gi, and you can work the sleave/lapel grip then go for it!

Oh, and welcome to the forum :D

Colin

[Disciple]

Judo is very much derived directly from ju jitsu, there will be similar technques in throwing and take down and even some pins and grapples.

[YODA]

Well - I use this throw a LOT - and I do neither Judo or JJ so I don't work it in a Gi :p

Elbow & head works well for me.

[Freeform]

Originally posted by YODA
Elbow & head works well for me.

And me Dave! ;)

I feel its necessary to work both with and without the gi. Training in t-shirts and shorts is a most for anyone who considers their training 'practical'.

I'd train in shirt and jeans but its such a hassle finding clothes that fit these days I'm not risking getting them torn! :D

[Jim]

Yeah, me too. It's good to train with in this way (safer, etc.). Once you've got the hang of that you can move into more 'vigorous' methods.

[TheMachine]

when you train with a gi, there's more to grip and you can use this to your advantage. Of course grips may vary from person to person but nonetheless, many jujitsu guys also use throws that judokas use since jujitsu was the art from which judo was derived

[warren]

thanks for the reply's,i sometimes go with the elbow and arm around the neck but most of the time i block at the wrist,slide my hand up and pull on the elbow then wrap my free arm around the waist.
i noticed on the board it said i was a junior i don't know if this refer's to me being new to the group or if i filled in the joining form wrong,but in case i have misled anyone i'm 37 year's old just thought it best to clear that up

[Aegis]

Junior just means not many posts.

The sleeve/lapel grip obviously isn't going to be used as much in a self-defence art, so generally elbow and head/armpit/waist grips are used instead. Our style tends to favour the armpit, but we train to throw from whatever we can grab hold of, so...

[Jim]

37? Sorry Warren, you're just too old to be here... ;)

[Freeform]

*cough*.... Jims 34 *cough*

Only ten years older than me (minus 11 days) :D

Col

[Jim]

For the sake of %$^$, Col! There's no way you can prove that... 11 days my butt! :D

[Freeform]

:p

[warren]

at 37 i think you'll find i haven't peeked yet

[cal_JJJ]

Hello warren;

Sorry that these old folks got off topic, but the mind starts to wander; you know.:)

Here, it depends on the throw of course, we use the sleeve and lapel when in a gi where it applies. When in t-shirts, the sleeve hold can be wrist, elbow, or armpit and the lapel hold can be waist, armpit, or neck. depends on type of attack and throw.