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freespirit
27-Dec-2003, 12:59 PM
which is the greater gift, life or love ?
Dark Blade
27-Dec-2003, 01:19 PM
Without Life, there can be no love.
If one was never created, they cannot be loved.
But, if one is not loved or in love, they still live.
Although, most people are loved by someone, be it family, friend, or partner.
So it's hard to say.
Terry Matthes
27-Dec-2003, 03:59 PM
What Dark said.
Darkflames21
27-Dec-2003, 04:06 PM
What is life without love. It's impossible.
By that definition, any living thing without the capacity to love would be impossible. Life can go on without love, and it does every day.
Darkflames21
27-Dec-2003, 04:34 PM
Yes but everyone loves something, either be another person or something.
neryo_tkd
27-Dec-2003, 06:07 PM
except a woman i know. she is 34 years old and u can never hear her say that she did something she enjoyed or loved. she is always nagging, nagging and nagging and sometimes i ask myself how it is possible not to love someone or something. but, obviously, there are people like that too.
here there is a saying about those people: they hate themselves the first part of the day and the rest of the world the other part of the day.
Darkflames21
27-Dec-2003, 06:11 PM
She has to love something.
freespirit
27-Dec-2003, 06:31 PM
she would have loved something in the past as a child maybe, children have no knowledge of the horrors of the world.
but is it possible to love without life ?
Yama Tombo
27-Dec-2003, 06:43 PM
The reason why the world does not have love, because it does not teach love.
freespirit
27-Dec-2003, 06:48 PM
very good answer if instead of using steels ro harm why not use them in amore beneficial and peaceful way
neryo_tkd
27-Dec-2003, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by Darkflames21
She has to love something.
believe me she doesn't. i don't know what the situation was when she was a kid. she must have loved something back then. but now the situation is completely different. i have known her for the past 8 years, and for the past 8 years she has been like that. complaining all the time. she is never satisfied with anything.
but guys think about it a little bit. she must be a very unhappy person.
freespirit
27-Dec-2003, 06:52 PM
im saying she must have been hurt in a very bad way at sometime in her life
neryo_tkd
27-Dec-2003, 07:07 PM
i don't know for sure, but i don't think so. she is a person who has to be pushed all the time. she doesn't do anything on her own. sometimes i wonder how she manages to inhale-exhale on her own.
she doesn't have a boyfriend, and she has never had one, because she still thinks that a knight on a white horse will show up one day. if u want to find a boyfriend, u have to go out sometimes but that's too difficult for her. she doesn't feel like it. she wants everything served on a silver pladder.
weird, really weird
bcullen
27-Dec-2003, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by Dark Blade
Without Life, there can be no love.
If one was never created, they cannot be loved.
But, if one is not loved or in love, they still live.
Although, most people are loved by someone, be it family, friend, or partner.
So it's hard to say.
Without love, there is no life. It was the love of our parents (and others) that concieved us and sustained us.
The dance of the dragon and the tiger. The dragon is passion and insipration (love). The tiger the physical world (life). Without the dragons spark the tiger merely plods along withers and dies. Without the tigers being, the dragon remains untapped potential a "what if", or "what could have been", a dream. Neither is more important or less important as one without the other is equaly futile.
Wow! where did that come from? Slap an orange robe on me and call me grasshopper.
freespirit
27-Dec-2003, 08:09 PM
intresting that everyone is regarding life as a base rather than a gift to the spirit, i regard love as a gift and i think that life could be a gift as well.
I like to think that everyone has loved at least once in their life, i regard life as a journey and love as the experience, so what i am really asking is, which is best, the journey (progression) or the experience?
inacan
29-Dec-2003, 02:28 AM
What makes life living without love? It is love that spawns life, and life that reaffirms love.
Really both are needed, to survive.
neryo_tkd
29-Dec-2003, 10:19 AM
yes, i agree, we need both.
some people say that it is worth having truly loved somebody even not being with that person in the end, than not having loved at all.
we all love something, a hobby, a thing....but that is different and less important i guess than loving a person.
i also think that many people take love for relatives for granted. there r so many people out there who r not on speaking terms with their parents and siblings. isn't that sad? i am so lucky to have a wonderful relationship with my family.
Serpico
29-Dec-2003, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by neryo_tkd
except a woman i know. she is 34 years old and u can never hear her say that she did something she enjoyed or loved. she is always nagging, nagging and nagging and sometimes i ask myself how it is possible not to love someone or something. but, obviously, there are people like that too.
here there is a saying about those people: they hate themselves the first part of the day and the rest of the world the other part of the day.
She loves nagging, and also she loves not loving. So she does love something. Love is almost always viewed as a positive feeling, but it can have negative connotations as well.
Originally posted by bcullenWithout love, there is no life. It was the love of our parents (and others) that conceived us and sustained us.
Don't confuse sex with love. My parents only thought that they loved one another. After I was born (outside of wedlock, and unplanned) my parents began to fight all the time, eventually they got divorced, and then I was kind of pushed off to the side. Thankfully, I had some really cool Grandparents who helped out alot!!!:love: Anyway, my point is, until recently I've never had any idea of what the concept of love is, but I still lived on, so you can live without love, but can you really be alive??
~here is the part where I sound like I'm contradicting myself~
I spent about 3 years very involved with drugs/alcohol... eventually leading to attempted suicide, etc... Why? Because, I lost my love fore life. Eventually, I got myself cleaned up, (I still smoke cigarettes, and drink on occasion, I'm gonna' work on quitting those very soon), but still had no love for life. I just existed for a couple more years. Recently, I signed up for MA, and I'm finding myself all over again. It's amazing!!! I'm falling in love with MA, and finding that every day I'm more alive than I was the day before.
So to summarize all this, you can live without love. But can you be alive without love? I don't think so. But, I also want to point out that your definition of life, also reflects your answer as well.
*Also I want to add, please don't feel sorry for me. I didn't put this post up for sympathy, I've dealt with my past, I'm moving on, and didn't post this post for sympathy purposes, but rather as inspiration, and I felt it was great way to make a few points. I went through some tough times, and stronger because of it, and I swear to myself daily never to forget that.:D
freespirit
29-Dec-2003, 02:19 PM
good, that was inspiring really, good luck
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