an effective kick more deadly den a regular thai rounhouse kick

[muay thai]

the kick more devasting then a roundhouse thai kick is da

mountain storm kick where the kicking leg was drawn up and

swung-through in full force swiftly with a continous downward

cutting motion of the shin as you torque your hips in, instead of

just plain straight through burst like a thai roundhouse kick

[YODA]

Oh, ok.

Sounds like a regular Thai kick to me. One of MANY types of Thai kick.

[SoKKlab]

Kicks in Thai Arts can be up, down or parallel. Learn more about Muay Thai etc and you will find this out for yourself.

As Yoda said Many Variations. what you are describing is a Bog-standard Muay Thai Kick.

Same goes for Knees, elbows etc.

[muay thai]

what I mean is that from stance you when you perform a front

kick you would bring knee up first then thrust well same gos for

the mountain storm kick from stance you bring your knee up just

as you perform the front kick, then when the knee is in front of

you then quickly do the roundhouse kick in a cutting motion either

low or from waist and above..always bring knee up and

in front of you luks like yur gonna block while bring yur knee up

and in front of you but then quickly switch to a roundhouse while

yur knee is up in one motion.

[YODA]

Yes - I'm familiar with this variation of the Thai kick. My Muay Thai instructor taught it to me around 1988.

[Ad McG]

muay thai - Own3d by Yoda :woo:

[Trent Tiemeyer]

Ah, 1988. Good year. Yoda learned a Thai kick and I won the Spelling Bee.:)

[47Ronin]

Chopping down the tree as Sensei says :p

[Zabuza]

88 was the worst year, cause I wasnt alive yet! :)

[totality]

88 rocked your face off zabuza, that's the year i was born!!! :)

[shipto]

Its a pity really because it almost seems like he is asking some relevent questions

[YODA]

Yes - very unfortunate. If he hadn't posted the racist garbage he did in his last post (now deleted) we may have got to understand him.

[nicolo]

Ain wut yur deeescribin called "Nakha khanod hang"?

DA BEARSS...DA SEEHAWKS

[soljah]

i witness this kick at filipines. broke a guys knee another where a guys leg turned nm and purple he couldn't get up

[YODA]

Ah Shaddap - registering a new account fools nobody you dummy.

[Combatant]

Thankyou for enlightening me with your pearl of wisdom. It is always good to re-learn a tecnique that was taught to me in my first week of training. I don't suppose you can teach how to do a jab could you?

In the quiet words of the virgin mary- 'Bog off'!

[nicolo]

but is the Mountain Storm kick the equivalent of "Dragon Coils Its Tail" in muay Thai?

[Nakthai]

Sorry fella, but i don't know what the hell you're on about.

Unless you're using translated Thai master tricks, then it isn't just a single kick, it's a situation, kinda like all the moves that come from the Ramakien (Maybe something like Hanuman breaks the *something's* kneck"?), If you're not using translate Thai, calling a kick "Moutain storm" Doesn't make it anymore effective.


And the kick you're best describing is a strange sort of variation of the average roundhouse kick, Instead of going around the outside, then horizontally coming in, like getting on a bike, it just knifes straight up into the floating rib area.

[Trent Tiemeyer]

Youngins.

[Nakthai]

yeah, not sure i follow

[SoKKlab]

Originally posted by Nakthai
Instead of going around the outside, then horizontally coming in, like getting on a bike, it just knifes straight up into the floating rib area.

Above is a 45 degree angle kick, or cut kick, either stepping off the centreline and cutting upwards into the floating ribs, ribs, SP etc or as a 45 degree angle kick, under the guard aiming to impact the ribs or the junction of the armpit etc. Bog standard Muay thai, honest.

What 'WonderboyBannedinDC' was describing was yet more Bog Standard Muay Thai, kick cuts down or Kick cuts up-see many Muay Boran and Ling Lom kicks for supersmashing versions of this.

They can either go up, down or horizontalish, or variations upon those, honest...

Anyway, what kind of a knob calls their kick a Mountain Storm, sounds like a Fighting Fart at best.

[Yoshukai]

I dunno if this is done in MT... Anyways, theres this brazilian fighter named Glaube Feitosa. He competes in K-1 and Kyokushin karate. He does a high kick that looks like a normal high kick but goes a bit higher than normal. He then whips his knee so it is now coming down at about a 45 degree angle instead of upwards/side ways at the head. It usually goes right past the guard and knocks out his opponents.

You guys ever seen this in MT fights? The Japanese Kyokushin people call it a Brazilian kick.. lol... God, I hope this isnt being discussed already lol.

1 more... In stead of a normal low kick with the lower part of the shins/ankle area, I sometimes hit with the middle part of my shin. Its called a crash kick... and it hurts a lot more than a normal low kick. Is it used at all in MT?

Thanks!

[YODA]

Yes - that descending high kick is a standard Muay Thai technique - often targetted at the neck.

The short low kick is also pretty common in the Muay Thai lineage I was brought up in.

[wanlu99]

Greetings my friends


Im Wanlu of the Philippine Yaw-Yan Assn.

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/yawyanphilippinemartialart/

Please pardon me but I have to totally disagree that the Mountain Storm Kick is a MuayThai Kick...
however, I have to agree that it could be similar to a variation of the Thai Kick just like a BJJ choke could be similar to a Judo lock or a
karate block might be similar to a TKD block or something like that.

My point my friends is that Yaw-Yan is not MuayThai and the principles and techniques are different. Yaw-Yan is based on Arnis movements...Yaw-Yan is documented as the Philippines'
most lethal "unarmed" style...
Im not saying Yaw-Yan is better than MuayThai, Im saying Yaw-Yan is not MuayThai.

Its probably inappropriate for whoever posted that The Mountain storm kick is better than the Thai Kick, for that I apologize on behalf of my Brothers in Yaw-Yan
We are not better than anyone or any other style...we are only better than ourselves.

My sincerest apologies to my friends in MuayThai for I am also a MuayThai student...
I have my highest respect for ALL Martial Arts styles specially BJJ, Kali and MuayThai but of course most specially our own style... Yaw-Yan

Salamat Po (Thank you) and more power to all of you.

Wanlu
Philippine Yaw-Yan Assn
Batch 1988

[nicolo]

Wanlu

Let's just say it's a diagonal-down kick then. It's still a leg regardless of whether it's muay Thai or yaw-yan. A leg is a leg and a kick is a kick. Sometimes you'll have parallels. That's just how it goes sometimes.
If Yaw-Yan was founded not too long ago, would it be a far stretch of the imagination to think that it drew some type of influence from the kicking methods of other Eastern arts? Isn't it true and hasn't it always been the idea of sharing that led to the evolvement of arts?

[Maximicus]

Hey, the cooler the name sounds the more effective it is.... at least in videogames. Now for my Mountain crushing power strike of death (jab).

[wanlu99]

Yaw-Yan was established in the Philippines in 1972 , the days when karate and kung fu styles were dominating the martial arts scene in the Philippines. MuayThai definetly exixts already during those days but not in Manila...however, I have to agree that a kick is a kick and yes the Mountain Storm kick might be similar to a variation of a thai kick...FYI, Yaw-Yan does not use the term Mountain Storm Kick anymore...all kicks and strikes as well as chokes are translated in Pilipino already since 1998. The Mountain storm kick is now known in Yaw-Yan as " Lulod Pabulusok"

My sincerest gratitude to all of you for taking time to discuss Yaw-Yan

Wanlu

[Andy Murray]

From the ashes, the Phoenix arises.

Some good info surfacing here, keep it coming! :)