Which style is best?

[hongkongfuey]

OK - someone had to do it. I suppose it's better coming from me! :D

Vote for your favorite operating system here.

[Saz]

I voted GNU/Linux, mainly because it doesn't fall over as much as windows. Our IIS server in work used to crash about 5 times a day.

I'm keen to see if anyone comes out in defence of Microsoft in this thread :)

[Cain]

I voted for windoze for the simple reason of compatibility and the fact it can run max payne 2 ;)

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[hongkongfuey]

I voted for windoze for the simple reason of compatibility


combatibility with what? itself? StarOffice/Open Office can read all relevant MS Office documents. Firebird is a technically superior browser to IE, and is more standards compliant.


and the fact it can run max payne 2


http://www.transgaming.com/showthread.php?news=95

Perhaps, as with all the 'which is the best Martial Art' discussions, the context of who is using the system is more important than which 'is best'.

'Which is the best OS for me, and for what purpose?' is a far more valid (if more boring) question. (are you a novice / expert / graphic designer / gamer / office worker ?).

On with the fight .....

[Cain]

combatibility with what? itself? StarOffice/Open Office can read all relevant MS Office documents. Firebird is a technically superior browser to IE, and is more standards compliant.

Let's ride! :D

Whenever a company creates software their first concern is being able to run it on windows at least the majority of them linux is used as just a port.

In the gaming side Linux desperately tries to be windows - what for? why not use windows instead? ;)

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[Saz]

Because Linux doesn't crash whenever you decide to click something. The extra stability actually makes it good for games, if you can get a version that works of ocurse.

[Cain]

Winxp or win2k pro has yet to crash on since 10 months of usage, though Linux is the more stable and mature OS it's goin' to have a pretty tough competition surpassing windows and it ain't going to happen anywhere in the near future as I can see.

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[LilBunnyRabbit]

Why does no one use DOS any more. I never had a crash in DOS, and there are so many little toys you could play with in it.

I even remember Netware Networks for DOS with the classic game Sniper. Now that was a good game.

Newsflash: I have suddenly realised that I am officially old as I no longer have any close friends who can't vote. The DOS complex just adds to the feeling. Please someone shoot me.

[Cain]

*BANG*

:D

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[Paratus]

Hey you're not getting old Rabbit, I have an old laptop that uses have Windows 3.1 and half DOS, I use DOS all the time, never had a problem. Its perfect for playing old games :D

[WhiteWizard]

Windows wins for me because Linux doesn't support my screen magnifier hence i hate them.

Also if anyone votes for Mac OS i laugh at you in advance

[hongkongfuey]

Let's ride!


Game on, dude.


Whenever a company creates software their first concern is being able to run it on windows at least the majority of them linux is used as just a port.

In the gaming side Linux desperately tries to be windows - what for? why not use windows instead?


This is true today, as Windows is on 95%+ of PC's. However, there are a lot of people coming through University these days with Linux experience, and rolling that out in companies where they are SysAdmins.

Xerox had 90% of the photocopier market, before Canon entered it. CBS was the media Giant before CNN. RCA was a far bigger player in the music industry than Sony.

Linux has Microsoft firmly in their sights.
What does Microsoft have to aim for?

When(if) Linux is on 90% of PC's what will people code for? What will Windows future be then?

[hongkongfuey]

Also if anyone votes for Mac OS i laugh at you in advance


The 'bomb with fuse' when a fault occurs is pretty funny.....

The first time you see it. :D

OS/X is a very competent Unix based OS though. As is BeOS.

[YODA]

Have a look at this...

http://news.com.com/2100-1012-995544.html?tag=lh

[hongkongfuey]

The answer is out there. And it's seeking you.

[David]

Linux.

I'd have voted for Unix but it stinks on PC's and I can't afford a proper workstation :(

Windows is great if you like wasting diskspace, being removed from the nuts and bolts of your system, have no need of optimisation, security, privacy and enjoy rebooting. Man, I can't get enough of rebooting.

Another good thing about Windows is that when the new version comes out (which you been praying will fix the bug you've had to work around the last couple of years), you'll probably have to replace perfectly good hardware and software because it's no longer compatible. Nothing like a fresh start with new unknown components on an untried OS, especially if your bank balance is way to high.

:D

Rgds,
David

PS IME, any game worthy of my attention has been ported to Linux toute suite.

[Marku]

Windows is best for games :-)

[hongkongfuey]

Windows is best for games :-)


correct - but was that the original question?

[Cain]

PS IME, any game worthy of my attention has been ported to Linux toute suite.

Not max payne

Not freespace 2

Not doom 3

Duke nukem forever will not be.

Not half life 2 as far as I know.

Linux is the wrong tool for the job, if you want to play games stick to plain old winxp/2kpro :D

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[Tosh]

Originally posted by YODA
Have a look at this...

http://news.com.com/2100-1012-995544.html?tag=lh

SHOCK HORROR! :o

Govmnt. saves money by going Open Source ;)

"There may be trouble ahead...... " :D

[khafra]

Poor, neglected BeOS. I woulda voted for it, if I'd ever run it or if any programs were written for it.

I have to say, though, you left out my two top votes there, OS/2 and VMS.

[hongkongfuey]

I have to say, though, you left out my two top votes there, OS/2 and VMS.


VMS deserves a place here. OS/2 - you must be having a laugh?

[natxanadu]

I'm sort of into FreeBSD at the moment, more stable and more secure than Linux, crap for games though

[hongkongfuey]

Not doom 3


Doom 3 will run nativly in Linux. Any game that supports OpenGL should port straight over without too much work.

But I agree - Windows is a better gaming platform. But is it 'harder' than Linux?

[hongkongfuey]

I'm sort of into FreeBSD at the moment


It seems good to me as well - Linux without all the hype! (although the hype is good for the Linux cause)

[DeepFreeze]

Not max payne

Not freespace 2

Not doom 3

Duke nukem forever will not be.

Not half life 2 as far as I know.

*ahem*

http://www.icculus.org/~ravage/freespace2/

:D

And you cant tell about Doom, half life or the game that shall never be released.
ID has always been quite comfy with Linux. All their previous games have had Linux-versions, why not Doom 3?
And Half-Life 2... Just have to wait and see.

[MichaelV]

Originally posted by David
Linux.

I'd have voted for Unix but it stinks on PC's and I can't afford a proper workstation :(

Windows is great if you like wasting diskspace, being removed from the nuts and bolts of your system, have no need of optimisation, security, privacy and enjoy rebooting. Man, I can't get enough of rebooting.

Another good thing about Windows is that when the new version comes out (which you been praying will fix the bug you've had to work around the last couple of years), you'll probably have to replace perfectly good hardware and software because it's no longer compatible. Nothing like a fresh start with new unknown components on an untried OS, especially if your bank balance is way to high.

:D

Rgds,
David

PS IME, any game worthy of my attention has been ported to Linux toute suite.

Don't hold back. :woo:

[hongkongfuey]

you'll probably have to replace perfectly good hardware and software because it's no longer compatible


I'm not sure this is the case. I've got XP running on P200 machines - as long as they have plenty of memory. The only difference the next gen Windows (longhorn) should require is a DX8+ compatible graphics card in 2005. Not too much to ask.

Many Linux distributions run poorly on lower spec machines. (assuming you are using a graphical front end such as Gnome or KDE).

I've also had much better luck with older hardware on Windows than on Linux in the past.

[abby]

i voted Linux. (even though i usually use win2k pro. *ashamed*)

[hongkongfuey]

even though i usually use win2k pro. *ashamed*


I wonder how many people who voted for Linux don't use it on a day to day basis. Is it something we aspire to, that does not match the reality of day to day use? Or do you find you could not live without it?

OK - I'll admit it. I'm one of the above. Pleeease dont take away my XP Pro.

[abby]

I know a lot of the basics in Linux, but I haven't had the time to master it. And between school and work, it's just quicker for me to use Windows because I know it already.

My husband uses Linux all the time though. Once in a while he'll use Windows to play certain games, but that's maybe a total of twice a month.

[Cain]

Gotcha HKF!!!!!! :D

I I want a home machine I'd naturally go for winxp/win2k pro

If I wanted more control over my apps and less bugs or a server I have to admit I'll go for Linux.

Winxp/2kpro does'nt hang much if it does it's the same rate as Linux IMO.

So far I have tried red hat and mandrake I'd definitlely prefer win9x over linux in terms of usability. And winxp still widens the gap, linux still has a long way to go to surpass winxp in this realm.

Linux is the wrong OS for gaming, windows is built for that. Use the right tool for the job :D

Security is vulnerable in both, in fact I would say that Linux has got more exploits available than windows because of it's demand ;)

In ending I would like to ask one question.

Would you stop using windows and use linux instead for the rest of your life? :D

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[Greg-VT]

I do prefer linux, although I only find myself using it on a once a week basis.

Otherwise I use Windows XP all the time. Jump and do it.

Every now and again I do get the urge to re-install linux on my main machine (currently always running on my server). But I don't know. I just find it kind of restrictive (it is actually the opposite).

I think once It's mastered, it is the perfect OS.

It's just along steep curve.

[bcullen]

I must confess I voted Linux but I am working from a Windows machine as well. It's the compatiblity issues. Love the power and versatility, but after a hard day of fixing everyone else's problems I'm not in the mood to deal with one of my own. Plumbmers pipes leak, mechanics cars don't run etc...

If at first you don't suceed, you must be a programmer.

[Cyph]

Linux is a piece of cake to install these days, it's much more appealing for the desktop market... Configuring things graphically is getting a lot easier. I think ease of use is right up there in terms of Windows, the only problem is the GUI isn't as responsive, there's a little lag from when you click and it responds.

[hongkongfuey]

Security is vulnerable in both, in fact I would say that Linux has got more exploits available than windows because of it's demand


Controversial! I think Windows is a much bigger target, so has many more people trying to hack it. In a way this does make it more secure. (Assuming you install the latest updates - many people do not bother!).

However, the Linux code is open to scrutinisation from many experts - surely this helps find and fix flaws?

I don't believe in 'security by obscurity' - I do agree however that Linux / Unix is not as secure as is made out by everyone.


Would you stop using windows and use linux instead for the rest of your life?


today - no. Tomorrow - who knows?

[natxanadu]

freebsd its a little harder to use than linux, its great for a server,

also linux / unix out of the box they may not be that secure, but they are a lot easier to lock down than windows

[Greg-VT]

Originally posted by Cyph
I think ease of use is right up there in terms of Windows


Coming close I think, although it Isn't equal. Give another six months, then MS better start really kicking into gear.

[xubis]

oh dear HKF! What have you done! The battle has begun ;)

[Cain]

Hehehe, could use a break from TMA vs MMA ;)

Originally posted by hongkongfuey
Controversial! I think Windows is a much bigger target, so has many more people trying to hack it. In a way this does make it more secure. (Assuming you install the latest updates - many people do not bother!).

Not exactly true, when choosing networks most people seem to prefer Linux over windows add in the linux fans think it's security is invulnerable = more demand/creation of exploits.

However we can argue all day long over this and finally settle that security is just as vulnerable in both platforms unless you unplug the network cable and switch off your PC ;)

However, the Linux code is open to scrutinisation from many experts - surely this helps find and fix flaws?

And find flaws too I suppose?

I don't believe in 'security by obscurity' - I do agree however that Linux / Unix is not as secure as is made out by everyone.

Agreed.

today - no. Tomorrow - who knows?

Don't worry, I see it highly unlikely considering ol' Billy's marketing tricks ;)

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[hongkongfuey]

However we can argue all day long over this and finally settle that security is just as vulnerable in both platforms unless you unplug the network cable and switch off your PC


slightly extreme! I think that you can make either platform as secure as you like. I would bet that my Windows 2000 / 2003 servers are more secure than most Linux setups (only running necessary services / ports / all SP's / critical updates / IIS lockdown etc) - however a Linux security expert would have their boxes more secure than most Windows Server setups.


oh dear HKF! What have you done! The battle has begun


BRING IT ON :D