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Shortfuse
19-Dec-2003, 03:00 PM
"The Shao-Lin Temples
The ancient Shao-Lin Temples may be compared to a martial arts university. Each temple had several Shao-Lin Masters who were experts or specialists in a particular area of training. Thus, the students could learn from the best in every field. There were 3 classes of Shao-Lin devotees namely monks, priests and practitioners. The most difficult part was to gain admission to one of these temples. Young students had to wait outside the temple for an eternity before they were accepted or rejected based on their temperament and attitude based on the monks discreet observations. They had to endure months or years of doing menial chores before they were accepted as disciples. Those accepted would receive an education in philosophy, fine arts and the martial arts.

In order to graduate from the temple, they would have to exhibit phenomenal skills and pass through 18 testing chambers in the temple. If they survived the first 17 chambers, they would have to grip an iron couldron with their bare forearms and have the raised relief of a tiger and dragon burnt into their arms. These marks were the signs of a true Shao-Lin Master.

For thousands of years the Shao-Lin Masters drew upon their experiences to refresh and renew the Shao-Lin art with new styles and forms of training. At the same time, the priests and practioneres instructed worthy laymen in various styles. In time, many of these laymen initiated their own variants of the training they had received. The priests and practioners also brought back to the temple innovations in the martials arts that they encountered in their travels.

The following are the various temples that existed at one point in time and a brief list of styles attributed to have been developed by them.


HONAN TEMPLE
Northern Fist, Ground Dragon, Monkey, Praying Mantis, Cotton Fist, Eight Drunken Immortals,10,000 Lotuses Blooming, Golden Snake, Staff, Spear, Jointed Sticks, Single Broadswords, Double Broadswords, Tiger Hook Swords, Double Edged Sword, Three Sectional, Chain Whip, Double Daggers, Double Hand Axes, Single and Double Butterfly Knives

FUKIEN TEMPLE
Southern Fist, Golden Centipede, Sparrow, White Monkey, Wild Horse, Iron Bone Training, Iron Palm Training, Iron Shirt Training, Short Fist.

SHANTUNG TEMPLE
Shantung Black Tiger,Tan Family Leg Techniques

OMEI SHAN TEMPLE
White Crane, Eagle Claw, Golden ****, White Swan, Ostrich.

KWANGTUNG TEMPLE
Tiger-Crane System, Fist of Ch'a, Golden Roaches, 10,000 Bees Attacking.

WUTANG MOUNTAIN TEMPLE
T'ai Chi Ch'uan, Pa Kua Chang, Hsing I Chu'an, Liu Hsing Ch'uan, T'ai Chi Broadsword, Spear, Ta Mo Sword and Double Sword and Spear, Seven Star Sword.

HUA MOUNTAIN TEMPLE
Classical Fist of Hua, Modern Fist of Hua, Chang Ch'uan"

YODA
19-Dec-2003, 03:06 PM
Interesting - did you research & write this or did you cut & paste it from elsewhere?

Shortfuse
19-Dec-2003, 03:09 PM
opps copy and paste

YODA
19-Dec-2003, 03:09 PM
Copy & paste is fine - you should maybe credit your source though :D

Shortfuse
19-Dec-2003, 03:11 PM
the source was very random i dont think i can even find it again
but i tihnk what they did then violates a few laws now

Indestructible
19-Dec-2003, 04:31 PM
You Know, there was a regular university in China that had Martial Arts as part of it's Curriculmn. I believe it was the first University in China.

SoKKlab
19-Dec-2003, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Shortfuse
In order to graduate from the temple, they would have to exhibit phenomenal skills and pass through 18 testing chambers in the temple. If they survived the first 17 chambers, they would have to grip an iron couldron with their bare forearms and have the raised relief of a tiger and dragon burnt into their arms. These marks were the signs of a true Shao-Lin Master.


The Dummy Chambers makes for really interesting reading. Hung Gar's history refers to it alot.

Very Heavy Iron and Bronze Dummies were rigged in rooms, so that Pressure pads in the floor would trip the mechanism and the things would fly at you from all angles to either strike, crush or floor you. Some were replete with spears, swords, axes etc.

When you got to the 18th Chamber, if you were really dead hard, then you would grip the Cauldron with ONE arm and only end up with ONE Dragon or Tiger burnt into the Forearm.

(The Cauldron was boiling hot, filled with coals etc and weighed a couple of hundred pound). So you got to Deadlift a burning Metal thing whilst being severely branded.

This was the mark of the supreme fighter, not only did it suggest even tougher stuff but also amazing prowess and strength of body and mind.

Shortfuse
19-Dec-2003, 06:36 PM
hoyl crap that is hardcore why dont they do that now?

Hakko-Ryu
19-Dec-2003, 08:31 PM
that sounds like a B kung-fu movie...

YODA
19-Dec-2003, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by Shortfuse
hoyl crap that is hardcore why dont they do that now?

Because in all probability thet didn't do it then either.

SoKKlab
19-Dec-2003, 09:05 PM
Lol,
You mean to say that those Kung Fu comics are lying to me!!

Hakko-Ryu
19-Dec-2003, 09:20 PM
i just had a thread on shaolin misconceptions and myths....the SHAOLIN 18 chambers of death is one of em...

Shortfuse
19-Dec-2003, 10:56 PM
many methods seem lyk they dont work compared to what amny say now lyk for example if you do thousands of sit-ups every day you would be ripped in a week and things like that

Andy Murray
19-Dec-2003, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by Indestructible
You Know, there was a regular university in China that had Martial Arts as part of it's Curriculmn. I believe it was the first University in China.

In Beijing yes, though it largely deals with Internal arts.

David
19-Dec-2003, 11:32 PM
From the moment I picked up this thread till I put it down, I was wracked with laughter. Someday, I hope to read it.

Actually I read "For thousands of years the Shao-Lin Masters drew upon their experiences" and skipped the rest.

Rgds,
David

Born from an egg on a mountain top
Monkey is funky - he's fit to pop

Shortfuse
20-Dec-2003, 12:36 AM
huh?

Indestructible
20-Dec-2003, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by Andy Murray
In Beijing yes, though it largely deals with Internal arts.

Actually the one I know of is in Tianjin. The martial art program is wushu now but before the cultural revolution it taught fighting martial arts. No reason there couldn't be two schools though.

shunyadragon
21-Dec-2003, 07:20 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Shortfuse
[B]"The Shao-Lin Temples
The ancient Shao-Lin Temples may be compared to a martial arts university. Each temple had several Shao-Lin Masters who were experts or specialists in a particular area of training. Thus, the students could learn from the best in every field. There were 3 classes of Shao-Lin devotees namely monks, priests and practitioners. The most difficult part was to gain admission to one of these temples. Young students had to wait outside the temple for an eternity before they were accepted or rejected based on their temperament and attitude based on the monks discreet observations. They had to endure months or years of doing menial chores before they were accepted as disciples. Those accepted would receive an education in philosophy, fine arts and the martial arts.

In order to graduate from the temple, they would have to exhibit phenomenal skills and pass through 18 testing chambers in the temple. If they survived the first 17 chambers, they would have to grip an iron couldron with their bare forearms and have the raised relief of a tiger and dragon burnt into their arms. These marks were the signs of a true Shao-Lin Master.

Frank

In the history of Arts of the Way this is a pretty modern chapter. This happened after the Arts became Martial. Originally in was not like a University and you didn't graduate. The Arts were a way of life of those who lived in the temple, except for the wandering priests and they did not teach the Arts outside the temple.

The emphasis was not the demonstration of phenomenal tasks, but on simple meditative and physical disaplines like the 'splashing of the water' to train the spirt, mind and body to become one.

totality
21-Dec-2003, 07:27 AM
generally, grades were given to shaolin masters based on their interpretive dance skills.

nowadays, they go deep into the mountains and fight giant ninja robots with lasers, in order to become true warriors.

someday, i will join them, and from that point until the end of time, i will be known as the kicker of elves!!!

Dark Blade
21-Dec-2003, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by Shortfuse
many methods seem lyk they dont work compared to what amny say now lyk for example if you do thousands of sit-ups every day you would be ripped in a week and things like that


No, it's not that easy, doing that you could very easily overtrain.

David
21-Dec-2003, 08:15 AM
Splashing water trains the eyes not to blink in a flinch reflex.

Rgds,
David

Shortfuse
21-Dec-2003, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by Dark Blade
No, it's not that easy, doing that you could very easily overtrain.


thats what i mean, some time ago people thought that and sometimes iwonder how it worked even if only sometimes

zun
22-Dec-2003, 01:17 AM
1000 method situps does work (my younger brother is proof) under specific conditions (such as low bodyfat). Problem is high danger of injury, and most people use the hip flexor to perform the situp. Hence, it's not recommended anymore.

Shortfuse
22-Dec-2003, 02:47 AM
pity

Hakko-Ryu
22-Dec-2003, 05:11 AM
Originally posted by zun
1000 method situps does work (my younger brother is proof) under specific conditions (such as low bodyfat). Problem is high danger of injury, and most people use the hip flexor to perform the situp. Hence, it's not recommended anymore.

everyday?!?! you'd probably over-train and wreck yer abs for a while. but i think the "push-up" challange method would work great for sit ups too if anyone has never tried.

Shortfuse
22-Dec-2003, 02:49 PM
u can wreck your abs? will they breat or colapase?