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saikyou
14-Dec-2003, 05:39 AM
post your most effective technique for the week.(competition or randori):D

mine is the fake uchi mata to o soto otoshi.

Freeform
14-Dec-2003, 09:06 AM
A variation of Tani otoshi as a counter to seoi nages.

Col

jonsku
14-Dec-2003, 09:15 PM
o soto gari -> o soto otoshi

as usually, has been effective many times this week... :)


jonsku

TheMachine
24-Dec-2003, 08:41 AM
kosoto gari for stand up, juji gatame for submission

Jim
25-Dec-2003, 12:59 AM
Kube Nage to Harai Goshi

DeepFreeze
27-Dec-2003, 03:50 AM
Well I have one favorite technique, which unfortunately doesn't prolly have name since it's something I came up with myself.
But other one is O-Soto-gari done over the hip.

First you get a good grab over the uke's hand, pull him around a bit, then you swiftly move your right leg behind his, and bring hip with you.
It's kuzure version of O-soto-gari actually, changes it into a hip throw. But when done right, it's pretty effective. Got to watch the counter throw though.

saikyou
27-Dec-2003, 09:56 AM
i fought alot of small and fast opponents(a tough target for an o-soto-gari) and im blasted with seoinages. tani otoshi proves to be useful.

TAPOUT
29-Dec-2003, 09:38 PM
ura nage and uchi mata

Jim
30-Dec-2003, 09:27 PM
Well I have one favorite technique, which unfortunately doesn't prolly have name since it's something I came up with myself.
Can you describe it?

saikyou
04-Jan-2004, 07:30 AM
still o-soto-gari/o-soto-otoshi. still scored an ippon with a tani otoshi as a counter.

Freeform
04-Jan-2004, 02:51 PM
Tani Otoshi is da bomb! :D

saikyou
04-Jan-2004, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Freeform
Tani Otoshi is da bomb! :D

agree with that. nice counter. :D

Freeform
04-Jan-2004, 11:37 PM
Hell, I made it through to Judo Brown belt only being good at Tani and a leg pick up :D

One attack, one defence ;)

Col

Furikuchan
08-Jan-2004, 02:18 PM
We don't see enough Tani Otoshi around here. I try to teach it to the kids, but nooo, they just don't use it in competition. It's a useful throw!
As for most effective, for some reason, I've been getting off an O Guruma a lot lately in practice. It's not a throw you see too often, so it works!

saikyou
09-Jan-2004, 11:38 AM
O guruma! another fave of mine. nice against a circling opponent. also, a nice follow-up move. (o uchi gari)

judojedi
09-Jan-2004, 01:06 PM
my g/f has perfected hiza garuma into morote seonage (or yama arashi) its absolutly deverstating. you land with her shoulder firmly nestled into your solar plexus.
i worked out this equasion to explain how i felt after she first got it right:
YW = your weight HW = her weight (9st) M= momentum

YW+HWxM = not being able to breath for 2mins and not getting up for at least 5mins

saikyou
10-Jan-2004, 02:19 AM
im not really into shoulder throws. one combination that i use is the o uchi gari to seoi otoshi.

Captain_Coward
22-Jan-2004, 09:45 PM
Ken Ken Uchi-Mata to Kouchi or to modified Tai-Otoshi

Kiwi

totality
22-Jan-2004, 09:59 PM
um...flying triangle? damn! judo confuses me to no end. best that people only speak english, i'm too lazy to know what you're talking about.

saikyou
24-Jan-2004, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by totality
um...flying triangle? damn! judo confuses me to no end. best that people only speak english, i'm too lazy to know what you're talking about.

check judoinfo.com for the translation of the japanese terms.

lwicks
24-Jan-2004, 10:32 PM
FLying triangle... dunno about that one. But I certainly miss being able to do my (quite good) flying JujiGatame!

My right foot in their right armpit,
my left leg up and over their face,
aim my head near their foot,
down they come, right into the armlock... no worries!

Who else has a favourite, now illegal technique?

Lance

saikyou
27-Jan-2004, 05:34 AM
Originally posted by lwicks
FLying triangle... dunno about that one. But I certainly miss being able to do my (quite good) flying JujiGatame!



a standing version of sankaku jime? hmm... i dont think that you can pull that off.

Archibald
28-Jan-2004, 01:29 PM
Hehe, someone hurry up and say Tome Nage....I'll never get tired of seeing that throw....cant wait to learn it myself ...only three gradings away, lol.

Captain_Coward
28-Jan-2004, 04:13 PM
Nah, Tomoe Nage is a bit dodgy if you ask me can easily go wrong if its not done well. Fun, if you just wanna give some one a boot in the nuts tho.
Not that i condone that ;-)

Kiwi

jonsku
28-Jan-2004, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by lwicks


Who else has a favourite, now illegal technique?

Lance

Kani-basami, anyone? :D

jonsku

saikyou
29-Jan-2004, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by Captain_Coward
Nah, Tomoe Nage is a bit dodgy if you ask me can easily go wrong if its not done well. Fun, if you just wanna give some one a boot in the nuts tho.
Not that i condone that ;-)

Kiwi
cool looking but not that powerful. atleast you can proceed to juji gatame or sankaku jime if you fail.

TheMasterSword
29-Jan-2004, 02:48 PM
Actually Tomoe Nage is one of my favorite throws (next to the flying juji :) ).... if works really well for me because I am really tall and the "getting low" for a seoi nage or o goshi is difficult for me.... i find that tomoe works well with someone in an extreme defensive posture or shorter than you... i continue to force them straight down then slip my left foot as deep as possible... fall straight down (contining to pull straight down and lock the hands to my chest) and push my right leg straight up and over as strong as possible... and if i cant get it over the top i go over the side and pull hard to get the ippon (has saved me many o matches)

TheMasterSword
29-Jan-2004, 02:51 PM
i also find that the trick is NOT to put your leg straight in because the opponent tends to block it with the hand.... i tend to loop my leg around in a circle (almost looking like a side sacrifice throw making the opponent resist optimally for me) and placing it towards the side of the inner hip bone

Furikuchan
30-Jan-2004, 04:02 PM
Hey, Tomoe Nage is a good throw, if you know how to do it right. I got it to work for ippon in a tournament just a week ago.
The major error we see with Tomoe Nage, and a lot of sacrifice throws, actually, is the tendency to fall back onto one's back or side, hoping that force will pull uke down. Better idea is for tori to swing into uke. My best example on this is for Tomoe Nage.
Instead of grabbing and falling back, grab uke, and treat him as a rope you are swinging on. The swinging motion will force your hips forward, displacing uke's hips. You land right about where his feet were, and he goes over you.
The same kind of idea works on Tani Otoshi, Yoko Otoshi, Sumi Gaeshi, and Ura Nage, to my experience. Swing in while displacing hips, foot, whatever body part is in the way, and you have forced their base out from under their center of gravity, instead of trying to pull on their center of gravity. Does any of this make sense, or am I just rambling?

lwicks
30-Jan-2004, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by jonsku
Kani-basami, anyone? :D

jonsku

Oh memories!!!!

Captain_Coward
31-Jan-2004, 10:44 AM
Uchi-mata to Drop seoi nage

Lovely jubbly uchimata to the right then switch to the left drop seoi nage.

Kiwi