history question

[dashao]

silly question but was wondering do shaolin white crane and wing chun have some similarities in hand movements and not in the jumping crane stuff (footwork) although some stances a re similar just curious to history of the 2 styles also was wing chun created after crane etc.

[Matt_Bernius]

Oy... ok, someone more knowledgeable than me will do a much better job of answering this. But I can at least get it started.

Crane is one of the earliest forms of Shaolin Kung Fu. It was one of the five orginial animals (along with Tiger, Leopard, Snake and Dragon).

Wing Chun on the other hand is a relatively modern martial art.

One thing to keep in mind with Chinese martial arts is that each new system was developed on the "backs" of prior systems. Often they were specifically developed (or evolved might be a better word) for the purpose of defeating an existing system.

So yes, there is a lot of Crane in Wing Chun. But Wing Chun (being a Southern Art) tends to stay more rooted to the ground.

- Matt

[SoKKlab]

Originally posted by guest(shao)
silly question but was wondering do shaolin white crane and wing chun have some similarities in hand movements and not in the jumping crane stuff (footwork) although some stances a re similar just curious to history of the 2 styles also was wing chun created after crane etc.

Allegedly yes.

Wing Chun was created alot later than the origins of White Crane.

The two have some similarities, particularly if you see the systems that are linked to and are precursors of what is generally accepted to be 'standard' Wing Chun, like Fatsan (Foshan) Ving Tsun and the Fujian system Yong Chun (looks like Wing Chun but uses alot of grappling, generally a much 'Bigger' system).

[dashao]

hhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm i see very interesting *(strokes invisible foot long beard) very interesting

[shunyadragon]

Wushu forms have two primary sources. The mudra of Buddhism blended with the Animal forms of Vedic traditions and Chinese traditions. All of these forms and traditions are far older than Shaolin. They were combined and recombined over the ages to end up in there present form.

There application in a more aggressive martial form is fairly modern compared to the ancient forms.