slipthejab
25-Dec-2007, 09:19 PM
One of the fellas I roll with on a regular basis just came back from training with Brazilian Top Team down in Rio. Ze Marcelo is one his bro's and so he had an invitation to come down for some time and just hang out in Rio... and of course roll if he wanted to. In fact he did roll... every day for twice a day. He said the quality of the instruction in Brazil was superb and the attitude was far more aggressive and pro active than what we have in Hong Kong. Here in Hong Kong we have bucket loads of politics between the two or three schools we have here... so no one really rolls against anyone else on a regular basis. So that can be a drag.
For my bro in the video... he's a monster physically. 6'3" and 110kg.. ex pro rugby player (Harbor, NZ) and just an all out aggressive, fearless dude with a high pain tolerance and maybe... a screw or two lose. But hey we love the guy... and as a mate he'd give you the shirt off his back or jump into a pack of scimitar wielding assassins to help you out. All highly admirable traits in mate to be sure. :)
However... because I have to roll with him and he's a fair bit bigger than me (I'm 6'2" 90kg) and I ain't never played no rugby often times he can simply power through any technique I try. In one of your free for all rolling sessions I managed to take him down and keep here there long enough to get my belt off and around his neck like a garrot and put everything I had into choking him (yes I know it's not a legal move)... he didn't so much as blink... actually he laughed and then reversed me and collar choked me. :(
At any rate... because he's so naturally strong and aggressive... he's got trouble finding anyone to roll with. There just aren't any other guys rolling at that size and strength level in Hong Kong. So on the way back from Rio he stopped off for the competition in the Philippines... and one of the bouts became a bit of a problem. Watch the vid where he is disqualified and then read the bit posted by the referee of the match. Let me know what you think - let me know what you think about the decision and post by the referee:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1ArzCZULEs
Your reputation is what people think about you and it is held in different constituencies. You have a reputation with people in your belt rank, people below your belt rank and people above your belt rank. You have a reputation with people in your weight class, people above your weight class and people below your weight class. You have a reputation with all your training partners. You have a reputation with your coaches. You have a reputation with grappling fans and a reputation with the general public (including the people helping out at tournaments). You have a reputation with your opponents. Finally, you have a reputation with referees.
The best time to give coaching advice is as soon as someone steps off the mat. The tide going out on all that adrenalin makes their brain highly receptive to ideas and feedback. So if I am a referee, I make a point of giving people detailed observations straight after their match to help them become better grapplers. I learned to do this from a referee at the Pan American games who made a big impression on me. When I give coaching advice to a grappler after a match and they tell me that they do not care what I think, nor care what other people think about what they have just done, I know that I will have to keep a close eye on that player if I have to referee a match of theirs in future and I tell them as much. Remember this - your reputation precedes you.
Take any comments the referee makes seriously. As a referee, I expect not to have to talk to the players during a match. But if a referee does talk, it is really important that players understand that referee comments must be taken seriously. Dean Thompson vs Cipriano Madayag; this was an important match; it was the finals of the super-heavyweight no-gi division. At 18 seconds (on the video), I warned Dean about eye gouging as he had his right hand fingers over the left eye of Cipriano; not in itself dangerous, but inappropriate and carrying the potential to be dangerous. At around 42 seconds Dean's right hand comes into contact with Cipriano's right eye socket and I give a further verbal warning and take a point away (once I feel that Cipriano is temporarily safe). Dean is verbally abusive at 46 seconds and some referees would have disqualified at that point. Watch the match to see the final outcome. Remember this - take any comments the referee makes seriously.
Dean Thompson (starts on top) vs Cipriano Madayag (red shorts). Philippine International Grappling Tournament, Mall of Asia, Manila, Philippines. Dec 2 2007.
For my bro in the video... he's a monster physically. 6'3" and 110kg.. ex pro rugby player (Harbor, NZ) and just an all out aggressive, fearless dude with a high pain tolerance and maybe... a screw or two lose. But hey we love the guy... and as a mate he'd give you the shirt off his back or jump into a pack of scimitar wielding assassins to help you out. All highly admirable traits in mate to be sure. :)
However... because I have to roll with him and he's a fair bit bigger than me (I'm 6'2" 90kg) and I ain't never played no rugby often times he can simply power through any technique I try. In one of your free for all rolling sessions I managed to take him down and keep here there long enough to get my belt off and around his neck like a garrot and put everything I had into choking him (yes I know it's not a legal move)... he didn't so much as blink... actually he laughed and then reversed me and collar choked me. :(
At any rate... because he's so naturally strong and aggressive... he's got trouble finding anyone to roll with. There just aren't any other guys rolling at that size and strength level in Hong Kong. So on the way back from Rio he stopped off for the competition in the Philippines... and one of the bouts became a bit of a problem. Watch the vid where he is disqualified and then read the bit posted by the referee of the match. Let me know what you think - let me know what you think about the decision and post by the referee:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1ArzCZULEs
Your reputation is what people think about you and it is held in different constituencies. You have a reputation with people in your belt rank, people below your belt rank and people above your belt rank. You have a reputation with people in your weight class, people above your weight class and people below your weight class. You have a reputation with all your training partners. You have a reputation with your coaches. You have a reputation with grappling fans and a reputation with the general public (including the people helping out at tournaments). You have a reputation with your opponents. Finally, you have a reputation with referees.
The best time to give coaching advice is as soon as someone steps off the mat. The tide going out on all that adrenalin makes their brain highly receptive to ideas and feedback. So if I am a referee, I make a point of giving people detailed observations straight after their match to help them become better grapplers. I learned to do this from a referee at the Pan American games who made a big impression on me. When I give coaching advice to a grappler after a match and they tell me that they do not care what I think, nor care what other people think about what they have just done, I know that I will have to keep a close eye on that player if I have to referee a match of theirs in future and I tell them as much. Remember this - your reputation precedes you.
Take any comments the referee makes seriously. As a referee, I expect not to have to talk to the players during a match. But if a referee does talk, it is really important that players understand that referee comments must be taken seriously. Dean Thompson vs Cipriano Madayag; this was an important match; it was the finals of the super-heavyweight no-gi division. At 18 seconds (on the video), I warned Dean about eye gouging as he had his right hand fingers over the left eye of Cipriano; not in itself dangerous, but inappropriate and carrying the potential to be dangerous. At around 42 seconds Dean's right hand comes into contact with Cipriano's right eye socket and I give a further verbal warning and take a point away (once I feel that Cipriano is temporarily safe). Dean is verbally abusive at 46 seconds and some referees would have disqualified at that point. Watch the match to see the final outcome. Remember this - take any comments the referee makes seriously.
Dean Thompson (starts on top) vs Cipriano Madayag (red shorts). Philippine International Grappling Tournament, Mall of Asia, Manila, Philippines. Dec 2 2007.