egg protein....

[bwhite55]

i've got a couple questions. first of all, what's the absorption rate of a product like ON egg protein as compared to casein and whey? would an egg/casein mix be good before bed, or should i just stick to casein, or would egg be better? also, are you guys familar w/ the egg whites in the tub, are they as good as regular eggs, would you recommend them? why and why not?

i've been skeptical about eggwhites, but if they work, it would probly be better for me than whole eggs. heart probs run in my fam, so i'm doing all i can to safeguard against it. i've heard that the cholesterol in the yolk is HDL, but they still tell you to stay way from it, so i don't know what to believe.

i know eggs in general are one of the best sources of protein, but i dunno what to do.

[gj5940]

go to myprotein and use the customiser to order milk 70% eggwhite powder 20% an egg powder 10 % and what ever flavour floats your boat, I use the egg whites alot you can buy them in liquid form and they are safe to drink raw avoid raw whole eggs for obvious reasons. Some form of oil needs to be added to make the protein absorbtion work otherwise it just turns to sugar, not alot of people know that. if you want to check up on that google Rheo H Blair and you'll find everything you need to know.

[CosmicFish]

Some form of oil needs to be added to make the protein absorbtion work otherwise it just turns to sugar, not alot of people know that. if you want to check up on that google Rheo H Blair and you'll find everything you need to know.
I've googled him and didn't turn up anything about protein turning into sugar without the presence of oil. To be honest it goes against everything I've ever heard about nutrition. Do you have anything to back it up?



Bwhite - Sorry for the late reply. I must have missed this thread! I'm afraid I don't know much about egg protein or its absorption rates. However, I have a vague recollection of a study having been done that showed that egg consumption did not adversely affect blood cholesterol levels. I've just done a quick pubmed search and turned this up:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=11023007

Also, no offence, but I think you're overanalysing the pre-bed protein shake. I'd be inclined to just get some protein in you. Preferrably slow-digesting, but I wouldn't agonise over which. I'd vary it from day to day anyway otherwise you're likely to get bored with whatever you settle on. Plus you should be varying your diet naturally anyway :)

[gj5940]

found the info I apologise I did interpret it wrong on protein and fat it was referring to too much protein in the system getting stored as fat my confusion, but here is the link

http://www.ironguru.com/Home/tabid/637/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/353/Cancer-Control.aspx

there is more info on that site

[bwhite55]

well, i eat whole eggs for a couple main reasons...#1 even tho the whites have the most protein, most of the vitamins and nutrients are in the yolk...

also the yolk is HDL cholesterol and along w/ being HDL, the cholesterol from eggs don't get into your bloodstream a whole lot cuz it has something to do w/ the lipid in the yolk preventing your body from absorbing the egg cholesterol....

the nasty rumor about egg cholesterol being bad was due to the rise in american cholesterol levels and the amount of eggs a typical american eats.....its all bull tho.

but anyway, i only take in shakes as my last alternative or post workout. about 90% of my calories come from solid foods, and bout 10% comes from shakes(during and post workout, and ocassionally before bed.). most of the time i eat a few eggs before bed and ocassionally i'll have a shake w/ it. i was looking into it, but i decided not to as food is much more cost efficient.

[TheCount]

Egg protein in refined form is a halfway house between whey and Casein, slower absorbing than whey and faster than casein.
The Yolk of one egg has 1400mg of Cholesterol in it if I remember, the daily allowance is 1600. You should be getting vitamins elsewhere in your diet, so the yolk isnt necessary. A nice cheap protein source in many cases is milk powder.

[CosmicFish]

Egg protein in refined form is a halfway house between whey and Casein, slower absorbing than whey and faster than casein.
The Yolk of one egg has 1400mg of Cholesterol in it if I remember, the daily allowance is 1600. You should be getting vitamins elsewhere in your diet, so the yolk isnt necessary. A nice cheap protein source in many cases is milk powder.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that the body not only synthesizes it's own cholesterol when needed, but also regulates it according to the amount taken in from diet. In other words, if you take in larger amounts of dietary cholesterol then your body synthesizes less and the overall blood cholesterol level stays fairly constant. The study I linked to above would seem to bear this out too.

I'm no biochemist though, so my knowledge in this area is sketchy, at best.

[bwhite55]

http://www.unisci.com/stories/20014/1029013.htm

http://cals.arizona.edu/impacts/2000/cholesterol.html

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/cholesterol/HQ00608

so yeah....eggs aren't all that bad

i also believe that the dangers that most people hype up can be avoided by being active, take my grandfather and other southern farmers from his time....a typical breakfast would consist of fresh bacon, alot of eggs, fresh toast, fresh milk, etc....very high in fat and very "unhealthy" by today's standards....they'd eat that, then go out to the fields, then they'd come back for lunch, eat another "unhealthy" meal, go out for another 4-6 hours and work on the land, and then come home and eat a huge dinner, and he's into his 80's now, no heart problems, still goes out into his yard(he's got about 8 acres that he keeps up daily) plants veggies, clears land, mows the yard, etc and healthier than most men are now in their 50's, and i've noticed this about alot of people that are older than 70 who were raised in a different era and know how to take care of themselves and stay active, and i had a taste of this for a month or 2 after hurricane ivan, i'd go clear land for at least 8 hrs, sometimes literally dawn to dusk so for about 12 hours and eat huge meals about 3 or 4 times and i had alot of energy and needed no workouts and got stronger than when i used to work out before that. now, granted we know about the affects of the body and the benefits of eating 6 or 7 times a day now, so i'd do that instead, and we don't work on the farm for 8-12 hrs a day, but keeping active like most of the people on this forum are i believe is enough....its the 75-80% of americans who sit around all day, eat fast food, and don't do anything and then look for a fat burner when the doctor says they need to lose 50 lbs cuz they don't wanna do any work that need to worry about high cholesterol and stuff.

and for people who are genetically predisposed to high cholesterol, i believe exercise goes a long way w/ that and there are lots of supplemental ways to reduce it as well(fish oils, coq10, etc).

so, stay active imo(i don't mean pussyfooting on the treadmill for 30 mins 3 times a week as active) and take preventive steps and i don't think you need to worry as much about that stuff.