circuits for MA?

[bwhite55]

i dunno if this is ofn or not, but i was wondering after watching some BJJ conditioning about 4 weeks ago at a local class. the guy started off w/ about 4 or 5 sets of conditioning drills where he went straight 5 mins. i guess the round length varies w/ the MA, but do you think nonstop 3-5 min circuit sessions that hit the full body would be good? i ask that cuz i start my judo tomorrow night.

ie

20 secs pushups(incline, crossover, whatever you wanna do)
20 seconds BW squats
20 seconds medicine ball slams, sledgehammer swings, bodyball crunches, or other core workout

x3-5

rest 2 mins(or however long between rounds to make it more practicle)

20 secs diff form of pushups, or chins(something else upperbody
20 secs lunges, pistols(lowerbody)
20 secs another core workout

x3-5

rest

20 secs upperbody
20 secs lowerbody
20 secs core

x3-5

the way he explained it to me is he said that the stress he just put on his students' bodies is pretty much 3 or 4 full rounds....

then they rolled for about an hr or so.

eh, the guy seemed good, but the price was too expensive.

my question i guess is what do you guys think about that as something to add in like once a week? i'm gonna try it tomorrow in the AM. i might have to take it easy tomrrow night when i go to judo, or just take tomorrow night off since there are 4-5 nights a week and i can go to any of them.

[tetsu ryu]

Yeah that sounds like some pretty good stuff. I think for MMA it's three 5 minute rounds with one minute rest between each round. You could set up the circuits like this and be pretty well off. If you are going to get into a MA be sure to get into one you think you'll like no matter the price. At my school it's a very relaxed environment which makes it easier for me to learn in. There's no "Yes Sensei! Commencing tehchinque number 23!" or anything like that. It's just.. Hey, you wanna roll? And then we roll..

[bwhite55]

Yeah that sounds like some pretty good stuff. I think for MMA it's three 5 minute rounds with one minute rest between each round. You could set up the circuits like this and be pretty well off. If you are going to get into a MA be sure to get into one you think you'll like no matter the price. At my school it's a very relaxed environment which makes it easier for me to learn in. There's no "Yes Sensei! Commencing tehchinque number 23!" or anything like that. It's just.. Hey, you wanna roll? And then we roll..

yeah, my sensei is a 2nd dan named earl wright who was in the 96 alternate team for the olympics and trains the military at the navy base. i read a profile on him and i guess he was inducted in the hall of fame in '06. he does alot of practical self defense stuff, as well as competition as well as he's gonna be able to help me out even w/ my knee how it is, which was my main concern. i liked the BJJ place i checked out but at $80 a month and $99 for enrollment and gi i couldnt afford it. he's got me on at $30/mo and he can get me a gi for like $40 and that $30 lets me go to as many classes i want, which are sat mornin, and m-th nights. real cool guy, so i'm excited.

so i am gonna try it in a few hours and my routine is gonna be like this

pushups for 20 secs
squats to calf raises for 20 secs
bodyball crunches for 20 secs
x5

rest a min

static hold w/ towel chins(i can't do a chin anymore, but after about a month or so of solid conditioning i should be back up there) for 20 secs
box jumps for 20 seconds
db swings(there's no kb :() for 20 secs
x5

rest a min

db bear crawls for 20 secs
burpees for 20 secs
jogging in place for 20 secs

and whats the name of the exerscise where you are in the pushup position and you are holding dbs or kbs and you alternate left and right and pick them up? and is there any type of movement or anything i'm leaving out?

[tetsu ryu]

yeah, my sensei is a 2nd dan named earl wright who was in the 96 alternate team for the olympics and trains the military at the navy base. i read a profile on him and i guess he was inducted in the hall of fame in '06. he does alot of practical self defense stuff, as well as competition as well as he's gonna be able to help me out even w/ my knee how it is, which was my main concern. i liked the BJJ place i checked out but at $80 a month and $99 for enrollment and gi i couldnt afford it. he's got me on at $30/mo and he can get me a gi for like $40 and that $30 lets me go to as many classes i want, which are sat mornin, and m-th nights. real cool guy, so i'm excited.

so i am gonna try it in a few hours and my routine is gonna be like this

pushups for 20 secs
squats to calf raises for 20 secs
bodyball crunches for 20 secs
x5

rest a min

static hold w/ towel chins(i can't do a chin anymore, but after about a month or so of solid conditioning i should be back up there) for 20 secs
box jumps for 20 seconds
db swings(there's no kb :() for 20 secs
x5

rest a min

db bear crawls for 20 secs
burpees for 20 secs
jogging in place for 20 secs

and whats the name of the exerscise where you are in the pushup position and you are holding dbs or kbs and you alternate left and right and pick them up? and is there any type of movement or anything i'm leaving out?

The exercise you mentioned sounds like a 1 armed row in pushup position. Listen man. It's not gonna be crazy intense the first night of training or anything. You'll do fine. You act like your preparing for the olympics! And don't worry about the pullups. You'll get em, but you gotta train hard. I would include deadlifts into your program because there is a lot of hip movement and PC stabilization generated throughout the lift which will help you in leaps and bounds in grappling and striking. Other than that it all looks pretty good! Keep up the hard work!

Good luck man.

Tetsu

[bwhite55]

The exercise you mentioned sounds like a 1 armed row in pushup position. Listen man. It's not gonna be crazy intense the first night of training or anything. You'll do fine. You act like your preparing for the olympics! And don't worry about the pullups. You'll get em, but you gotta train hard. I would include deadlifts into your program because there is a lot of hip movement and PC stabilization generated throughout the lift which will help you in leaps and bounds in grappling and striking. Other than that it all looks pretty good! Keep up the hard work!

Good luck man.

Tetsu

i don't wanna do deadlifts for that, cuz w/ deadlifts i keep it slow and controlled to avoid injuries, and rushing deadlifts into 20 seconds would destroy me and have a high risk of injury.

so i did it, and i couldn't even hang cuz my forearms were still sore from tuesday. so instead i just did curls(its the only thing i could come up with at the time.)

i had to start of w/ 3 3 min rounds instead of 5 mins. i think next week i'm gonna bump it up to 4, and then i'll do 5. it seemed just as hard as tabata to me, mostly because i don't even have that 10 second break that tabatas have. if you think about it, you get 80 seconds of rest in a 4 min tabata workout, where as this one i wjould stop @ 15-16 seconds into it so i'll have just enough time to set up, and then i set up in 3 seconds and went, so its basically 3 mins straight and it killed me. so, i got about 18 seconds of rest for every 3 mins, that comes jout to about 24 seconds for 4 mins instead of 80 w/ tabata. i def suggest this to anybody that wants to switch it up from regular tabata or interval circuits and try a fresh variety of it.

oh yeah, i finished it off w/ a few mins of elliptical intervals :D

[tetsu ryu]

i don't wanna do deadlifts for that, cuz w/ deadlifts i keep it slow and controlled to avoid injuries, and rushing deadlifts into 20 seconds would destroy me and have a high risk of injury.

so i did it, and i couldn't even hang cuz my forearms were still sore from tuesday. so instead i just did curls(its the only thing i could come up with at the time.)

i had to start of w/ 3 3 min rounds instead of 5 mins. i think next week i'm gonna bump it up to 4, and then i'll do 5. it seemed just as hard as tabata to me, mostly because i don't even have that 10 second break that tabatas have. if you think about it, you get 80 seconds of rest in a 4 min tabata workout, where as this one i wjould stop @ 15-16 seconds into it so i'll have just enough time to set up, and then i set up in 3 seconds and went, so its basically 3 mins straight and it killed me. so, i got about 18 seconds of rest for every 3 mins, that comes jout to about 24 seconds for 4 mins instead of 80 w/ tabata. i def suggest this to anybody that wants to switch it up from regular tabata or interval circuits and try a fresh variety of it.

oh yeah, i finished it off w/ a few mins of elliptical intervals :D

Good stuff man! Glad to hear your reaping benefits from your routine. I wasn't suggesting you do deadlifts in any circuit or tabata. I was just saying that you should do them because they are useful in many aspects of martial arts.

[bwhite55]

Good stuff man! Glad to hear your reaping benefits from your routine. I wasn't suggesting you do deadlifts in any circuit or tabata. I was just saying that you should do them because they are useful in many aspects of martial arts.

yeah i got a superset of sumo and regular deads that i do once a week, then my other weight day i do Romanian deads.