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LeeGreg89
03-Dec-2003, 11:39 PM
Can someone please tell me the differences betweem Japanese Ju Jitsu and Brazilian Ju Jutsu
WHat one has and what one doesnt
and similarties and differences

SoKKlab
04-Dec-2003, 12:46 AM
Oh No not this again..
This gets asked so many times it should be a sticky for reference.

Okay, the differences are Distillation, Emphasis and Attitude.

Distillation as in Brasilian JJ came from Japanese JJ/ Judo.
Although there is some Stand Up work in BJJ, mostly it's technical base is Groundwork.

Pretty much everything I've seen in BJJ is contained in JJJ, there are some slight differences but overall, it's all there in JJJ.

Emphasis because the Emphasis in BJJ is training and working techniques against Resisting opponents.

Most BJJ techniques are Arm and Leg locks etc, Chokes, Cranks, Positional Holds, Pins, sweeps, reversals and working from The Guard, The Mount, North South position, Side Mount etc on The ground. There is very little striking in the Gracie/ Brasilian Jiu Jitsu system.

Japanese Ju Jutsu or Jitsu contains everything and the Kitchen Sink and perhaps the thing that most works against J Ju Jitsu is that there is just so much of it in terms of Technical Base.

Ie Locks against all joints of the body, all the above of Brasilian Jiu Jitsu, plus Atemi Strikes to vital points, Striking, Throws, Joint Manipulation etc etc

That should give you a generalised overview, it is in no means ment to be the definitive statement.

In a Generalising Sum Up, you could describe Japanese Ju Jitsu as a stand Up Art with some Groundwork and Brasilian Jiu Jitsu as a Ground Art with some Stand Up.

LeeGreg89
04-Dec-2003, 02:08 AM
so japaness ju jutis contains all of wha brazilian ju jitsu has

totality
04-Dec-2003, 02:13 AM
minus the tasty skillzes.

small joint locks...psh! ;)

SoKKlab
04-Dec-2003, 12:58 PM
There's always one isn't there?

IN answer Lee, yeah pretty much.
The rest is conjecture. I do a bit of both and it's all there in Japanese JJ, just that's it's utilised differently in BJJ.

As I said, I'm generalising. Best bet is go and train with both and feel, see and experiences the differences in the training methodologies yrself.

Sub zero
04-Dec-2003, 02:36 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH not again.


ne way. i agree with sokklab it should be made a sticky.
wheres a moderator when u need one?

:D

mild7
04-Dec-2003, 02:42 PM
LOL, this q always keeps popping up.

ttt for a sticky please!!! :D

to answer leegreg,
yes, trad JJ contains everything that BJJ has. But BJJ has refined the groundwork to such a high level, so don't be surprised to see a BJJ guy tapping out a trad JJer in a sparring match.
Of course, I am biased, because I do BJJ! But I do think trad jj is good for some ppl, try both out and see which one you like more!

SoKKlab
04-Dec-2003, 05:19 PM
Oh No Not THAT Again! and Again and Again....

versatilefightR
12-Dec-2003, 09:30 PM
Man I love Muay Thai and everything, but if I could start over I'd take Japanese JJ! I love the street applying techniques, all the throws and wrist locks, its great. If I'm grabbed from behind its just an elbow in the face (muay thai :D), but I'd rather not get some teeth stuck in my elbow :D