BJJ Chat?

[Davey Bones]

Well, it exists in other forums, so why not here? Anyone insterested in sharing random BJJ musings and turning it into a thread?

[flashlock]

ALL my posts are random BJJ musings... :D

[Davey Bones]

yes, but now they would have a home :p

[fanatical]

What is a BJJ musing? Does it have to have a point? Or is it just anything regarding BJJ that isn't really worth making a whole new thread about?

[Emil]

What is a BJJ musing? Does it have to have a point? Or is it just anything regarding BJJ that isn't really worth making a whole new thread about?

I believe the answer to be the latter, such as "I like BJJ" or "NJJ is fun", or anything like that but above the written skills of a three year old :D

Em

[sn11]

This week for me is 'training week', i'm trying out judo, ninjutsu, karate, bjj and muay thai. My girlfriend is also trying these things out with me, but she has some issues with muay thai and bjj. So basically im wondering do BJJ and Women mix well? is BJJ popular for women to do or is it a one out of a millon thing?

Same goes for muay thai if anyone does both :p or any muay thai person randomly reading this post lol.

[fanatical]

I've trained with lots of chicks in both regular and BJJ. BJJ lends itself brilliantly to women because of the feeling of mastering they will get when applying proper technique and seeing how they aren't completely teh suck just because they aren't big and strong.

The barrier they have to come over is that it's a martial art. They will be banged up (PLEASE don't think sexual. Even though I know it's allready too late). And they will have to grapple with sweaty guys a lot to get better. Girls who get past the initial scare and manage to go on for a while has nothing but good things to say. Seldom do I hear more good words regarding BJJ than from the girls who practice it.

[sn11]

I've trained with lots of chicks in both regular and BJJ. BJJ lends itself brilliantly to women because of the feeling of mastering they will get when applying proper technique and seeing how they aren't completely teh suck just because they aren't big and strong.

The barrier they have to come over is that it's a martial art. They will be banged up (PLEASE don't think sexual. Even though I know it's allready too late). And they will have to grapple with sweaty guys a lot to get better. Girls who get past the initial scare and manage to go on for a while has nothing but good things to say. Seldom do I hear more good words regarding BJJ than from the girls who practice it.

Nice! i'll inform her, good to hear, Oh and i didnt actually think of anything sexual untill you said not to..heh. Sorry

[Emil]

This week for me is 'training week', i'm trying out judo, ninjutsu, karate, bjj and muay thai. My girlfriend is also trying these things out with me, but she has some issues with muay thai and bjj. So basically im wondering do BJJ and Women mix well? is BJJ popular for women to do or is it a one out of a millon thing?

Same goes for muay thai if anyone does both :p or any muay thai person randomly reading this post lol.

Some of the best Muay thai fighters in my club are women. MT is very good for women as it serves not only as a serious martial art, but also it gives a fantastic workout.

Em

[Ghost Frog]

Tell her to give it a go. Of all the martial arts I've tried over the years, BJJ is the only one where I had a real chance of competing against people bigger than me.

But Muay Thai is good fun as well. :)

[SteelyPhil]

Quick question:
Does BJJ have striking?
I understand that people frequently incorporate striking into the art itself, but i've always seen competitions having 0 striking and as its an evolution of Judo I always kind of assumed it didn't strike.

[callsignfuzzy]

In my class it's only addressed when we go over "self defense" and even then it's mostly concerned with defending strikes as opposed to learning effective striking. However, my school teaches multiple MA's, so perhaps it's overlooked 'cause you can get striking in the JKD, Wing Chun or CSW class.

[fanatical]

Quick question:
Does BJJ have striking?
I understand that people frequently incorporate striking into the art itself, but i've always seen competitions having 0 striking and as its an evolution of Judo I always kind of assumed it didn't strike.

No BJJ "doesn't have" striking. If your instructor is asked about self defense applications or simply has a love for teaching people how to fight in teh str33t, he'll probably include instructions on how to defend punches from the guard, when and how to strike from the mount etc. to both do damage and gain reaction for submissions or positional improvement.

You are most likely not going to be taught HOW to strike effectively, since that's not an issue when you're in a dominant position. If there are ever any explanations or demos or anything of the kind to show how to clear strikes and get to the clinch , that's good I suppose. Some instructors will show some stuff if you ask them. Others won't be interested in it at all and will teach you sport or nothing.

But in regular class and when rolling. There is no striking.

[Davey Bones]

Last night was a good training night. A lot of the upper-level students are commenting on the fact the are really making me work, and that my game is progressing well. I'm getting more aggressive, going for more techniques, not just fighting defensively. I think one of the big things for me is that a lot of the smaller guys (relatively speaking; I'm only giving up maybe 30 pounds instead of 40 pounds) come on Fridays, so I'm working with guys who are small enough I can actually pull guard. Amazing how much better a lot of the techniques work when you can actually pull guard, lol.

[spirez]

I've got a poorly shoulder, don't know whether to risk training tonight or not. Haven't trained since saturday and i'm booooorrrrrreeeedddd!!!

[Rhea]

I had a poorly shoulder and went today. My instructor put it back in place. Don't think it was intentional though.
I had a really great class today, and the sparring was fantastic! Can't wait to go tomorrow night to the vale tudo class as well. I NEED MORE!!!

[spirez]

Well i went, no problems at all! Apart from the gi burn on my chin opened back up :(

It was a bit of a coincidence that we ended up drilling kimuras and americanas though, lol.

[Rhea]

Same here. I'm just lucky that puts the joint back how it should be. Think I put it out throwing someone on Monday.

[SteelyPhil]

Guillotine is a BJJ move right? I'm watching the UFC, is it a choke?

[sliver]

Yes, the Guillotine is a choke. And yes, it's one of the most basic subs in BJJ. Even inexperienced fighters can attack with it effectively if they're fast and agressive. Also the move is very natural and frequently gets snapped on somoene who's take-down wasn't so well executed. Done well the choke is very punishing, both from the pain it cuases and how it cuts off the ole' air supply.

The guillotine can be defended of course, and anyone who's been doing BJJ more than a month or two will know how, but plenty of matches are still won with this simple, reliable choke. The guillotine is almost a no loose situation for the attacker. Even if the defender does successfully defend and extract their head from the choke, it's likely they're going to have to spend more energy doing so than the man applying the choke (and not gassing out is a big factor in who wins any grappling match). What's more, while defending the choke the defender quite frequently opens himself up to other attacks an the attacker gets to stay on the offesive, trasitioning from one attack to the next untill they out manuver their opponent.

There's even a few variations of it such as the arm-inside guillotine which also imobilizes one of the defender's arms and is harder to get out of. ADCC championship matches have been won with that. The choke is fairly easy to set up so there's about a zillion ways to do so and it flows well with plenty of other attacks so it can be one element in a chain. Ok, crash course in "why the guillotine choke is nifty" is now over. Cheers!

[Mikey Triangles]

Yes, the Guillotine is a choke. And yes, it's one of the most basic subs in BJJ. Even inexperienced fighters can attack with it effectively if they're fast and agressive. Also the move is very natural and frequently gets snapped on somoene who's take-down wasn't so well executed. Done well the choke is very punishing, both from the pain it cuases and how it cuts off the ole' air supply.

The guillotine can be defended of course, and anyone who's been doing BJJ more than a month or two will know how, but plenty of matches are still won with this simple, reliable choke. The guillotine is almost a no loose situation for the attacker. Even if the defender does successfully defend and extract their head from the choke, it's likely they're going to have to spend more energy doing so than the man applying the choke (and not gassing out is a big factor in who wins any grappling match). What's more, while defending the choke the defender quite frequently opens himself up to other attacks an the attacker gets to stay on the offesive, trasitioning from one attack to the next untill they out manuver their opponent.

There's even a few variations of it such as the arm-inside guillotine which also imobilizes one of the defender's arms and is harder to get out of. ADCC championship matches have been won with that. The choke is fairly easy to set up so there's about a zillion ways to do so and it flows well with plenty of other attacks so it can be one element in a chain. Ok, crash course in "why the guillotine choke is nifty" is now over. Cheers!


I'm a big fan of Jeff Glover's Triangle from the Guillotine, lol

[spirez]

This guillotine is actually sickening, WTF is up with his neck?!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x306kj_the-most-brutal-guillotine-choke-in_sport

[Snake+CQC]

^^Ouch... That guillotine was messed up!