flying kicks for self defense?

[shotokanwarrior]

shotokanwarrior here....
are the flying kicks any good for self defense in the street or are they just flashy competition moves?

[Andy Murray]

Dunno.

I'm speechless. :D

[shotokanwarrior]

why? did i use too many long words?

[Andy Murray]

Must have been that yeah!

Thanks for clearing that up. ;)

[SoKKlab]

My mother swears by Flying kicks, but then she did do Ballet for years.

[xubis]

rofl, flying kicks are bad imo, take way to long to get up, and once you are you are not in control of you momentum, what was that film where that guy tried a flying side kick, the guy caught his leg and sent him to the pavement.

[Shaolin Dragon]

Wasn't there a similar thread about twirly kicks?

Or did I dream that?


Anyway, I'll say the same thing, both have a place if performed correctly at the right oppurtunity.

The trouble is that most people don't practice using them in sparring because they can't make them work, and they can't make them work because they don't practice them in sparring...

[Kenshi]

ya dude flying kicks are a defanet no no in the street your better of grabbing a 2 x 4 or something

[Kwajman]

As a kicker, the flashier they are, the less useful they are, IMO.

[Disciple]

i think, given the situation, they can be practically applied. For example, your advisary is cahrging you from 20 yds, you have take a step forward to intercept his face when he brings a 2x4 out and prepares to swing at your legs. What can you do? flying side kick to the face.

I suppose they are kicks that can contain the element of surprise. I guess there may be reasons to perform a sideariel kick or an jump backflipkick. I don't know hwy, but there may be. Perhaps you watn to overcome an obstacle between you an the attacke and you are otheriwse trapped.

The thing with a flying kick is, however, the moment you are in flight, you lose momentum and mobility, so under normal circumstances... eh, I wouldn't.

[Kosokun]

Originally posted by Kwajman
As a kicker, the flashier they are, the less useful they are, IMO.

Keep your stick on the ice, I always say.

Rob


(If it ain't broke, you're not really trying)

[Kwajman]

Thats good Kosokun! I'll use that analogy in class.

[Sonshu]

I was chasing someone who vandalised my mates car - he had a nice BMW!

As the evil guys (3 in total) were running from the scene myself I was chasing him the main one was a big fat guy and he was a slower runner than his mates as he looked over his shoulder he saw me gaining and then stopped.

POW - Jump kick tried and worked. Suprised but he went a long way. Bit OTT for the situation although I knew he was gonna attack me as he could not run.

Can't understand why he did the damage to my mates car but he was fined and had to pay for the repairs as he could not run and a doorman of the near by bar called the cops!

When asked I said I barged into him and he fell over - he was not hurt much (due to beer armor) but went a hell of a way as my shot was in his chest area.

One and only time used! - RESULT

[paul paterson]

Osu,

Flying kicks for self defense?

Unless you like the showboat stuff in all honesty leave this stuff for the films and those who have big heads and no brains. Given that we no longer live in the past ie pre 19th circa, then leave it alone. How many people have you seen including yourself used or have used tobi geri's or any other flashy high kicks in a telephone box or a toilet cubicle? none...the case rests with the jury.

Osu.
Paul Paterson.

[kempocos]

BAD , sure there's the cool jumping then comes the falling bleeding, pain. looks good in dojo/tourny's but in the dynamic of a real fight it will get you hurt.

[RubyMoon]

Originally posted by Shaolin Dragon
The trouble is that most people don't practice using them in sparring because they can't make them work, and they can't make them work because they don't practice them in sparring...

That's a really good point. If you can't successfully apply a technique in a controlled environment like your training hall, for goodness sake don't try it when the chips are really down. On the other hand, if flying kicks work for you then by all means keep them in your repertoire.

There is a technique for every situation, and a situation for every technique. The art is in figuring out how to put the two together.

[Trent Tiemeyer]

I'll use one if the other guy isn't looking. Say, for example, he's buying a soda from the vending machine, and I notice with my razor sharp vision that the sold out light comes on after dispensing what turns out to be the last Dr. Pepper.

It's flying kick time.

Make sure to land it before he opens the Dr. Pepper, or all is lost.

[RubyMoon]

Originally posted by 1ONEfighting
Make sure to land it before he opens the Dr. Pepper, or all is lost.

Are you crazy??

That flying kick will probably knock that Dr. Pepper out of his hands, shaking it up something fierce! Better sneak up on him with your cat-like grace and drop him with a knife-hand to the neck, catching the can before it hits the ground.

Otherwise, you'll ruin your gi! Sheesh!

[Hakko-Ryu]

heh...i would say that it would probably be very difficult to attempt and land a flying kick to someone's FACE! but there are exceptions...hehehe HERE's an interesting case of FLYING KICKS.

http://www.nationaltkd.com/ntkd_videos/sercard1992-hiqual.WMV

watch it to the end.

[shotokanwarrior]

Originally posted by 1ONEfighting
I'll use one if the other guy isn't looking. Say, for example, he's buying a soda from the vending machine, and I notice with my razor sharp vision that the sold out light comes on after dispensing what turns out to be the last Dr. Pepper.

It's flying kick time.

Make sure to land it before he opens the Dr. Pepper, or all is lost.

a flying kick just because he gets then last Dr Pepper? please, tell me you're bull****ting.
shotokanwarrior.

[hafer34]

depends on the situation and how good you are at them. 99 percent of the time you will prolly not want to throw a flying side or flying 360 but theres still that 1 percent you might just go with it and make it work.

[Shaolin Dragon]

There is a technique I have found particularly effective in sparring in which you feint a kick with one leg and use your mometum to jump and kick out with the other leg. It works well because the first kick lowers your opponent's guard and opens him up to the second kick.

[Trent Tiemeyer]

I was definitely bulls***ing.

[hwardo]

Along the same lines as what Shaolindragon just suggested, I have found that jump snap kicks to the face are extremely effective in full-contact sparring-- they are faster than running side kicks, and they are less easy to see coming than twirlies. Also, the knee up is a feint, and it leaves your opponent's face unguarded, generally.

[Kof_Andy]

Flying kick is too obvious, and Im assuming you mean a real flying kick like with a prep and run. You will never land it, unless his already in pain or stunted, but if you do land it then is time to call 911 for your victim.