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I Rule
27-Nov-2003, 02:38 AM
Hello peeps,
OK, Iam 14 n i live in Glasgow(but orignally from rome italy) , N i wanna learn some martial arts for self defence , I have researched into diff MA's but i still cant decide whichone i should choose. I Have looked into Kung fu and found it interesting, as it suits me, "i need some action packed martial arts
:D so i can show off to my friends:D" and kung fu seems just ok for me..... but are there any disadvantages of choosing Kung fu ? or anythin that i should know b4 i start learnin kung fu? huh? I dunno if there r any kung fu clubs in glasgow, if there r then can anyone plz give me the names n address etc, A frend of mine has advised me to join to krauseworld , but they dont seem to have kung fu, they only offer Jeet kun do, but i dunno whether jeet kun do is part of kung fu or its just an indivisiual style?
plz help me
plz help me
Cheers
Andrew Green
27-Nov-2003, 03:10 AM
Self-defence and showing off to your friends are not as compatible as you might think...
Some places train for form
Some places train for function
Decide what you want
nzric
27-Nov-2003, 03:16 AM
Check out Capoeira. Can't get more 'showoff' than that!!
47Ronin
27-Nov-2003, 03:41 AM
Ok heres the deal- You want good self defence then you wont be able to show off- you want to show off then you wont have good defence. Unless you are damn fast with your techniques.
Choose one or the other would be your best bet then look for a school.
Regards,
Max
Melanie
27-Nov-2003, 06:07 AM
Hello,
"Showing off" ANY martial arts skills WILL make you a target. Ahem :)
Sorry, just needed to say that...
I had a chap join my class some time ago now that said when he walked in that he wanted to learn a flying kick. He beamed from ear to ear with a conspiratal grin and I knew he was in for a surprise. I have to forewarn you. You don't walk into a GOOD class and know what you need to know in 3 or 4 lessons. You learn the stance for the first few weeks. Then they show you how to position your hands for another month. Then you have to co-ordinate them both at the same time. They make you repeat this until you get it right. About six months down the line your shown how to complete a form/kata. All the juicy stuff is shown to you but not normally explained how it works until you've been doing training for about 2-3 years. Then you have to become good at it. That takes you to about 5-6 years or maybe more.
Basically MA training makes you work and sweat hard. Your endlessly repeating every technique and unless you train regularly and run it through your head when your not at class you don't pass gradings. It teaches you speed, agility and discipline. The whole MA ethic teaches your patience and tolerance and to not use your martial arts unless your life is in danger.
Sorry if this has put you off the whole MA idea, but most GOOD teachers are pretty particular what they show their students and wouldn't want their students to come to harm - so if they felt you were going to show off your training they would feel uncomfortable teaching you. If you can control this urge you may find you would like to compete and then you could go down that road.
Either way you must decide what you want and explore as many different classes and instructors straight away before deciding on a school.
Good luck. :)
YODA
27-Nov-2003, 07:45 AM
Here's a great tip...
We have MAP members from Glasgow - there are quite a few.
Speak to them by PM and ask about Krauseworl BEFORE you step through the door.
Then ask them what is available in Glasgow.
WhiteWizard
27-Nov-2003, 08:25 AM
There is lots of Kung fu available in Glasgow a good place to look would be the karate shop in the Savoy centre they have a folder with club information. I know for sure that there is Wing Chun available but there are many different Martial Arts available in Glasgow
chungmoomonkey
04-Dec-2003, 05:30 PM
gandalf lord
uhhm... sorry
im kinda mad at u martial arts isnt fr showing off and like that first person said some martial arts are flashey and some are ugly but extremely effective but if u wanna show off get a kicking style like tkd or tang soo do because everybody will be pressed that u can kick over ther heads like noithing
YODA
04-Dec-2003, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by chungmoomonkey
gandalf lord
uhhm... sorry
im kinda mad at u martial arts isnt fr showing off and like that first person said some martial arts are flashey and some are ugly but extremely effective but if u wanna show off get a kicking style like tkd or tang soo do because everybody will be pressed that u can kick over ther heads like noithing
They'd be more impressed if you took the time and care to write properly using decent spelling and punctuation.
jim smith
23-Jan-2004, 05:57 PM
Hello there, the best martial art you can try is the Keysi Fighting Method. Ive done martial arts for years and one class in Keysi and Ive been hooked. I was at Krauses before but never go there unless you want to learn very little for a lot of money. You can get info from the guy in the Savoy centre. Jim
Guerilla Fists
23-Jan-2004, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by nzric
Check out Capoeira. Can't get more 'showoff' than that!!
Amen! but that's all I will say, not trying to start a thing again....
Jim Smith,
What is Keysi? What are it's origins and what kind of systemof fighting is it?
Thanks,
8
Shade
23-Jan-2004, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by Melanie
You don't walk into a GOOD class and know what you need to know in 3 or 4 lessons. You learn the stance for the first few weeks. Then they show you how to position your hands for another month. Then you have to co-ordinate them both at the same time. They make you repeat this until you get it right. About six months down the line your shown how to complete a form/kata. All the juicy stuff is shown to you but not normally explained how it works until you've been doing training for about 2-3 years. Then you have to become good at it. That takes you to about 5-6 years or maybe more.
Basically MA training makes you work and sweat hard. Your endlessly repeating every technique and unless you train regularly and run it through your head when your not at class you don't pass gradings.
I've only been doing a certain MA for 3 months, and have already passed 2 gradings. Is this bad?
Guerilla Fists
23-Jan-2004, 06:17 PM
Shade,
Not necessarily, if you are working hard and displaying exemplary effort then you should progress faster than normal. The way it works out often times is that the first few grades are relatively easy to attain but thereafter each progressive level becomes increasingly harder.
However you may want to take a step back and examine how rigorously your studio trains its students. Does everyone advance in a relatively short time irregardless of rank and effort put forth? Or are you finding that the upper ranks do indeed display a better comprehension of the concepts and movements underlying your art? Of course there are many other things to consider lest you find yourself studying in the midst of the dreaded McDojo. In the end only you can determine this for yourself since it is unlikely any of us are at your studio as well. Although I will state on a side note that the obvious exeption is that a lot of people from my studio are on this board including two black belts.
Good Luck,
8
Shade
23-Jan-2004, 06:21 PM
8, thanks for the advice.
Um, without wishing to be rude to any of my fellow students, I have seen a couple of people passing gradings that perhaps ought not to have done.
And there are 2 others at my class who have passed 2 gradings like me in our first 3 months, so it isnt just down to being exceptional on my part (as much as I would love it to have been).
HitNRun
24-Jan-2004, 02:42 AM
I think you should join a gym that teaches western style boxing, just my opinion.
However, the first thing you will have to learn, no matter what disclipline you decide on, is if you want to be good, then you first need to recognise that the more you know, the more you need to learn.
Tom
Topher
24-Jan-2004, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by Shade
I've only been doing a certain MA for 3 months, and have already passed 2 gradings. Is this bad?
What style do you do. 2 gradings in 3 months does raise my suspicions, even 1 would seen abit quick. Your style and training scedule may be diffrent, but i trained in TSD for 6 months before my 1st grading, and am going for my second next month (i think), another 4 months.
FullContactKid
24-Jan-2004, 11:13 PM
Do the JKD class
Shade
26-Jan-2004, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Homer J Simpson
What style do you do. 2 gradings in 3 months does raise my suspicions, even 1 would seen abit quick. Your style and training scedule may be diffrent, but i trained in TSD for 6 months before my 1st grading, and am going for my second next month (i think), another 4 months.
I currently train in two 'styles' but the one I am referring to is CKD.
andycartland
27-Jan-2004, 01:58 PM
Re- advancing 2 belts in 3 months...
dodgy.
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