What not to eat?

[CrowZer0]

I always hear about things I should be including in my diet etc...

But I'm not enitrely sure of all the things I should really be avoiding at all costs, so I'm thinking let us start a thread where we name what not to eat or drink and why...

For example, White Bread, White Rice etc... Is bad because it's refined and very bad for our insulin...
Juice concentrates are bad because they don't have the same nutritional content as eating actual fruit...
Coke because it's full of junk...
McDonalds, KFC, Pizza Hut, KFC food because it's full of crap and the ingredients used in the food has been injected full of drugs...

Please do continue...

[Gary]

It's a tricky question, really your diet selection depends on your goals and when your eating. Generally I like to eat foods with the minimum of processing done.

[Shadow_of_Evil]

Coma said it right. It depends on what you're trying to accomplish.
It's easy for people to say that you should avoid lots of carbs etc, and that's true to a point if you're losing body fat but what if you're trying to build up some muscle?

[CrowZer0]

Coma said it right. It depends on what you're trying to accomplish.
It's easy for people to say that you should avoid lots of carbs etc, and that's true to a point if you're losing body fat but what if you're trying to build up some muscle?

Ok granted people have different diet needs, but there must be some things that are a definite no no, like fried chicken, or coke? Does that benefit someone?

[Gary]

Ok granted people have different diet needs, but there must be some things that are a definite no no, like fried chicken, or coke? Does that benefit someone?
Powerlifters, the colonel and coca cola corporation the respectively. :D

[CrowZer0]

Powerlifters, the colonel and coca cola corporation the respectively. :D

Really?:|

[CrowZer0]

I also hear that Doner Kebabs are very bad for me... Can someone tell me why?

[Gary]

To be honest you're oversimplifying everything. It's common to see lists of good and bad foods in the media, but really you need to work out what's good and bad for you based on your aims. For example a marathon runner, powerlifter and an office worker are going to have very different requirements.

Another great example is chocolate. Most people label it as bad, until they hear about the polyphenols, catechins and epicatechins with all the great antioxidant properties. Suddenly chocolate is a 'good' food, which many people see as permission to stuff themselves all day with it. Great if your goal is huge amounts of antioxidants, not so great when it's fat loss.

Just about any food will be fine in small doses, which is exactly why I'm trying to avoid your question. It's also why I use fitday. ;)

[SimonW]

I also hear that Doner Kebabs are very bad for me... Can someone tell me why?
Doner Kebabs are bad partly because of the amount of saturated fat they contain, but mostly because they're only viewed as viable food while drunk, which has to tell you something ;) .
I echo coma's comment though, it's oversimplifying to say that some foods are 'good' and some are 'bad', it's all about quantity and lifestyle.
BTW Coke's great for treating hangovers.

[Drunkenfist]

All take away food contains trans fats/saturated fat so thats a definte no no.
Also alot of microwave/ready meals will contain trans fats so stay away from them as well.

[Socrastein]

Just about any food will be fine in small doses, which is exactly why I'm trying to avoid your question. It's also why I use fitday.

I disagree. Just because a small dose won't necessarily have noticeable effects doesn't mean it's "fine". Smoking one cigarette a month won't give you lung cancer. Would you hesitate to tell someone smoking is aweful, choosing rather to say it's "fine in small doses"?

Things aren't as fuzzy as you make them to be. Hydrogenated oil for instance. Bad, always. Avoid trans fats like the plague. Small dose or large dose, they're absolute rubbish regardless.

[Gary]

I disagree. Just because a small dose won't necessarily have noticeable effects doesn't mean it's "fine". Smoking one cigarette a month won't give you lung cancer. Would you hesitate to tell someone smoking is awful, choosing rather to say it's "fine in small doses"?

Things aren't as fuzzy as you make them to be. Hydrogenated oil for instance. Bad, always. Avoid trans fats like the plague. Small dose or large dose, they're absolute rubbish regardless.
I completely agree, that's why I said Just about any food. Even your example of trans fats is slightly flawed, CLA for example has more benefits than drawbacks yet is still a trans fat, and nicotine can be great for weight loss :D

[Reakt]

I disagree. Just because a small dose won't necessarily have noticeable effects doesn't mean it's "fine". Smoking one cigarette a month won't give you lung cancer. Would you hesitate to tell someone smoking is aweful, choosing rather to say it's "fine in small doses"?

Things aren't as fuzzy as you make them to be. Hydrogenated oil for instance. Bad, always. Avoid trans fats like the plague. Small dose or large dose, they're absolute rubbish regardless.

This is true but I really think people exaggerate the damage of foods in small doses. I'd agree about cigarettes but don't forget thats a drug, not food.

Hydrogenated oil is bad yes. But honestly if you have some in small doses every now and again what is it going to do? Sure it might have a TINY effect on the body in relation to the amount but will it change your fitness or make you die any sooner, I doubt it. Then again though the dispute turns to what can be considered a 'small dose'.

For people who really want to be fit, they don't have to have a Kebab if they don't want to. However for any normal person who wants one every now and again, I wouldn't stop them. A few grams of saturated fats wont make someone die a day sooner, or actually do anything.

[NewLearner]

Think of it as a spectrum from toxic with one drop to should eat regularly. Most everything fits in the spectrum somewhere. But do I really want to eat something that probably won't kill me if I limit myself to one every blue moon when I can eat something that I should probably have at least once a week? It is always a choice between what is the best and what isn't. Broccoli is a much better choice than cake, but having a slice of cake at your birthday party probably won't destroy your diet. But you certainly don't want to be having it everyday. At the same time, you would probably die from boredom if you had broccoli at every meal.

[cheesypeas]

Coca cola is brilliant for removing stains from the bog...unscrew cap...pour around the bowl. :p

[Saz]

Also there has to be an element of common sense.

I thought it was fairly obvious that coke was full of sugar, donner kebabs are full of grease and malformed meat and fried chicken was... well fried.

I don't think anyone here can ever give you a complete list of "eat this", "don't eat that" foods. Stuff thats more obscure (avocado's for example) then fair enough, thats worth questioning.

[cheesypeas]

Things you know are good for you...eat plenty of.
Things you know are not good for you...eat as a treat.
Things you are allergic to...avoid.

Everyone on MAP will have a different personal criteria.

Use your inbuilt common sense! :D

[Socrastein]

I completely agree, that's why I said Just about any food. Even your example of trans fats is slightly flawed, CLA for example has more benefits than drawbacks yet is still a trans fat, and nicotine can be great for weight loss

I'm aware that some naturally occuring trans fatty acids are just fine for you, which is why I made a point to specifically refer to hydrogenated oils.

[BGile]

I disagree. Just because a small dose won't necessarily have noticeable effects doesn't mean it's "fine". Smoking one cigarette a month won't give you lung cancer. Would you hesitate to tell someone smoking is aweful, choosing rather to say it's "fine in small doses"?

Things aren't as fuzzy as you make them to be. Hydrogenated oil for instance. Bad, always. Avoid trans fats like the plague. Small dose or large dose, they're absolute rubbish regardless.

Avocados=Avocados were known by the Aztecs as "the fertility fruit".
In the pre-Incan city of Chan Chan, archaeologists have unearthed a large water jar, dated around 900 A.D., in the shape of an avocado.[11]

During the avocado's harvesting season, Aztec families would lock up their virgin daughters to protect them and they were not allowed outside.[12]

Previously, avocados had a long-standing stigma as a sexual stimulant and were not purchased or consumed by any person wishing to preserve a chaste image. Growers had to sponsor a public relations campaign to debunk the avocado's unsavory reputation before they eventually became popular.
;)

Regarding once in awhile.
From what they are saying now is some things, in small dose's are what are bad for you, regarding "second hand" smoke anyway.

Some who chew or use snuff are killing billions of cells, every time they do it, mention the ones against it.

In the world of replication that is bad.

http://bioweb.uwlax.edu/GenWeb/Molecular/Theory/Replication/replication.htm

Hope you follow this link and find out.

[kenpoguy]

a helpful but obvious tip is this...

If stop and think to yourself, "should I really be eating this?", then most of the time you probably shouldn't :P

[Sgt_Major]

eating lightbulbs is pretty bad for you I hear....

:Angel:

[Stevebjj]

High fructose corn syrup is death. :)

[bcullen]

<Censored>!

There goes my normal breakfast of lightbulbs in high fructose corn syrup! I suppose next you all are going to say something about my used fuel lines in marinara lunch. :rolleyes: :D

[Gary]

I'm aware that some naturally occuring trans fatty acids are just fine for you, which is why I made a point to specifically refer to hydrogenated oils.
Sorry, from this post:

Things aren't as fuzzy as you make them to be. Hydrogenated oil for instance. Bad, always. Avoid trans fats like the plague. Small dose or large dose, they're absolute rubbish regardless.
I thought you were lumping hydrogenated fats and trans fats as the same thing, I wanted to make the distinction clear.