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Su lin
02-Jun-2007, 09:57 AM
Ok, so I know I shouldn't admit this,being a lady and all. However, I have noticed recently that the fitter I get,the more I seem to be sweating. When I started training,even in the summer I wouldn't sweat a huge amount and wouldn't feel particularly dehydrated afterwards.
These days though,I'm sweating like mad during sessions (not a pretty image I know,but bear with me!) and even though I drink lots of water/green/other tea I feel horribly dehydrated after sessions and in particular next morning.

Anyone have any tips or info?

Gary
02-Jun-2007, 10:09 AM
Aluminium chloride based anti-perspirants work well, though some people can find they cause skin irritation.

Su lin
02-Jun-2007, 10:11 AM
But wouldn't it be bad for you trying to not sweat?

Gary
02-Jun-2007, 10:23 AM
It's tricky, since sweating well is a sign your body has adapted to cooling itself efficiently during exercise. The antiperspirant would be useful for occasions when you really don't want to sweat, say for work. Sweating during workouts is fine though since your body is self regulating it's temperature well. I don't know whether this shortens in length as your body becomes more efficient, from personal experience though I would say it does.

Su lin
02-Jun-2007, 10:27 AM
Cool.I don't really find it an issue day to day,just in training really. I don't mind sweating during training,it's just trying to combat the dehydration afterwards that I am really struggling with at the moment .I have tried drinking that Lucozade rehydration drink during and after sessions but doesn't seem to make that much,if any,difference at all.

jwt
02-Jun-2007, 10:41 AM
Su Lin,

The fitter you get the quicker your body can respond to temperature adjustment needs, hence the more you sweat. With your increased skill you are probably working harder than before without realising it, hence the greater need for the body to sweat anyway.

I'd suggest taking on water and salt to compensate, but time it right. Too early and you'll be dying to pee all your lesson. :D

Did you innocently post a thread title guaranteed to make all the men on MAP take a look? :Angel:

Su lin
02-Jun-2007, 10:51 AM
Ta for the info JW :D

What kind of ratio you talking for water and salt?

And as for the title of the thread, of course I did ;)

jwt
02-Jun-2007, 11:00 AM
I don't set myself a ratio - I'm not that keen. I just bear in mind that all the while I am losing water while sweating I am losing salt as well - therefore if I take in water but not salt I will get a headache. I find the easiest thing to do is to drink plenty during the day and during training if possible. Immediately after training have a big drink of water and a small pack of peanuts. Only then venture near alcohol.

holyheadjch
02-Jun-2007, 12:28 PM
Did you innocently post a thread title guaranteed to make all the men on MAP take a look? :Angel:
Guilty...

TheCount
02-Jun-2007, 12:45 PM
Maybe what you should try is gentley drinking a pint of water after a workout. If you add about half a level teaspoon (no more) of salt to it it may help also. Sometimes when you are dehydrated it is in fact because you have lost salt through sweating. Its a recommended re-hydration method.

SteelyPhil
02-Jun-2007, 12:52 PM
Concerning dehydration/exhaustion. In the Thai Boxing forum, someone suggested chocolate milk.

http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67246&page=2

I haven't tried it yet, but seems legitimate, he uses science.

Emil
02-Jun-2007, 03:43 PM
The fitter you get, the faster you sweat and the more you are able to train at a high intensity, therefore the more you sweat. A fit person should start to sweat very early into an exercise session as this shows that the body is able to cool itself down very quickly.

Su lin
02-Jun-2007, 04:23 PM
Hmmm I must be getting pretty fit these days then as it starts almost immediately .:D

Verx
02-Jun-2007, 05:32 PM
I also have the same porblem as Su. I feel thirsty and it doesn't stop until next morning. I would suggest honey mixed with water until the water turns a translucent gold colour. It's sweet and refreshing (and good for you :) ).

Sparx
02-Jun-2007, 05:34 PM
The dehydration may be down to the tea you drink. Tea dehydrates your body in a similar way that alcohol dehydrates your brain. There's is a fancy word for it but I can't remmeber. I did this work when studying the kidney. So maybe a cutdown on the ammount of tea before workout?

g-bells
02-Jun-2007, 05:46 PM
tyr shaving your pits you silly panda :rolleyes:

holyheadjch
02-Jun-2007, 05:49 PM
The dehydration may be down to the tea you drink. Tea dehydrates your body in a similar way that alcohol dehydrates your brain. There's is a fancy word for it but I can't remmeber. I did this work when studying the kidney. So maybe a cutdown on the ammount of tea before workout?
there was a study released not long ago that reckons that tea is healthier than water and that it doesn't dehydrate you.

Maybe the problem isn't drinking enough after the exercise, maybe its not drinking enough beforehand. Preventing dehydration is more important than fixing it afterwards...and as for the sweat, might just have to be one of those things you have to deal with.

Su lin
02-Jun-2007, 05:51 PM
Hey G I don't have hairy pits!!! :D

I do tend to drink a lot during the day before training,mainly water or organic white/green or rooibos tea.

Verx
02-Jun-2007, 06:06 PM
Typical Brit, all about the tea. :D

Su lin
02-Jun-2007, 06:08 PM
:D I hate "normal" tea though,never drink your normal pg tips etc,just the "good stuff" :)

Verx
02-Jun-2007, 06:31 PM
Oh okay then, you're a unique typical brit, wait was that an oxymoron? :confused: :p

holyheadjch
02-Jun-2007, 07:04 PM
:D I hate "normal" tea though,never drink your normal pg tips etc,just the "good stuff" :)
FREAK!

Su lin
02-Jun-2007, 09:50 PM
It makes me feel rotten, I can't stand much milk these days :( Have to have soya milk,which makes me feel slightly sick! :D

jwt
02-Jun-2007, 09:56 PM
It makes me feel rotten, I can't stand much milk these days Have to have soya milk,which makes me feel slightly sick!

And the difference between the two is thus....?

Su lin
02-Jun-2007, 10:11 PM
Lol! Good point! They make me feel rotten in slightly different ways :D

Kralk
02-Jun-2007, 11:36 PM
It meens your body is more effciant at controlling it's temprature. You can wear deohdrant but that's about it, unless you want to become unfit so you sweat less.

watts
02-Jun-2007, 11:58 PM
Personally after training I don't drink tea, but usually water and fruit juice. Ever tried isotonic drinks? some people seem to find them helpful, though they are just salt with juice really..
http://www.planet-science.com/text_only/outthere/foodtech/isotonic.html

aikiwolfie
03-Jun-2007, 12:46 AM
Sweating more is an age thing. A sign you're getting old. I never used to sweat. Got older. Now I flood the room just thinking about thinking about standing up. :p

Garrett
03-Jun-2007, 02:28 AM
As you get fitter, your sweat rate increases, and you begin to sweat eariler.
As has been mentioned, it is your bodies adaptation for better temperature regulation. It's completely normal.

You will lose more salts through sweat when you sweat more. Although the amount isn't really significant and is covered by normal food intake. Only marathon runners and tri-athletes run into electrolyte problems during exercise over 60 minutes and of high intensity.
If you are worried about it though, try a sports drink after exercise (gatorade, powerade), they are specifically designed with the correct amounts and types of salts.
Normal table salt is NOT good for replacing lost salt from sweat. It does not cover all the types of salt that are lost through sweat. Particularly potassium and iodine salts.

Verx
03-Jun-2007, 02:29 PM
Sweating more is an age thing. A sign you're getting old. I never used to sweat. Got older. Now I flood the room just thinking about thinking about standing up. :p

I've heard that from my sensei aswell.

g-bells
03-Jun-2007, 11:04 PM
Hey G I don't have hairy pits!!! :D

I do tend to drink a lot during the day before training,mainly water or organic white/green or rooibos tea.
sorry then Su, chalk it up to age then :love:

narcsarge
04-Jun-2007, 05:24 AM
Hmmm I must be getting pretty fit these days then as it starts almost immediately .:D

Same with me Su Lin. All I have do is jog for a few minutes or Jump rope as a warmup for 5 minutes and I am sweating. Ever since I dropped my weight and added muscle I have found that it doesn't take much to get my system fired up and sweating. I drink copious amounts of water through out the day and I make sure that I replace electrolytes and salts right after my TKD training. I let diet deal with all the other training I do.

Seems to have worked so far. No cramps. No sick feeling. No dark urine.

Burbs
05-Jun-2007, 11:13 PM
Interesting actually, as I just started noticing this has happened to me as well. What seems like a 'normal' practice leaves me absolutely drenched. I figured it was because I could now push myself much harder then before and I'm using TONS more body motion with any given technique. Never thought it also had to do with my body's improved ability to cool it's self. :cool:

Most times now after a short meditation, some brief stretching - Once we start class, it wont take more then just a couple series to start some small beeds forming on my head.

I also have the problem of feeling thirsty untill the next morning, thanks for some of the above information as I will try adding some salt into the mix - I like the idea of the peanuts.

Frodocious
06-Jun-2007, 01:51 PM
Hi Su Lin,

I'm a woman and I sweat buckets as well, it can be a hormonal thing or just down to individual physiology. Unfortunately, its one of those things that you will have to learn to live with and the chances are that as you get fitter it will get worse

If you want to make your own sports drinks try the following methods:

Hypotonic:

20-40g sucrose
1 litre warm water
1-1.5g salt (optional)
Sugar free / low calorie squash for flavouring (optional)

or

100 ml fruit squash
900 ml water
1-1.5g salt (optional)

or

250 ml fruit juice
750 ml water
1-1.5g salt (optional)

Isotonic:

40-80g sucrose
1 litre warm water
1-1.5g salt (optional)
Sugar free / low calorie squash for flavouring (optional)

or

200 ml fruit squash
800 ml water
1-1.5g salt (optional)

or

500 ml fruit juice
500 ml water
1-1.5g salt (optional)

One thing to be aware of is if you have a lot of salt in your diet already then it is highly unlikely that you will need to supplement it in your sports drinks.

Cathain
06-Jun-2007, 02:00 PM
Tea is known as a diuretic (probably due to the caffine it contains) and is not a good idea for rehydrating yourself.

As for Soya.....stay away from it. It's eeeevil
It is suspected to mimic the effects of oestrogen which could have various results....particularly if you are a bloke (which you aren't) :D

Angelus
06-Jun-2007, 02:11 PM
pifff sweat+women=hot :D

Johnno
06-Jun-2007, 02:47 PM
Sweating more is an age thing. A sign you're getting old. I never used to sweat. Got older. Now I flood the room just thinking about thinking about standing up. :pI always thought that it was fat people who are supposed to sweat more? :confused:

Sparx
06-Jun-2007, 06:24 PM
[QUOTE=Cathain]Tea is known as a diuretic (probably due to the caffine it contains) and is not a good idea for rehydrating yourself.[QUOTE]
Thats what I was goin on about. Thanks Cathain people no longer think I'm a nutter ;) ........I hope.

aikiwolfie
06-Jun-2007, 09:43 PM
I always thought that it was fat people who are supposed to sweat more? :confused:They do. Fat people and people with an alcohol consumption addiction.

But if you naturally sweat too much you can actually have botox injections to kill off some sweat glands.

Su lin
06-Jun-2007, 09:46 PM
Lol! I may have to get botox for that as well as my face then :D

Alansmurf
06-Jun-2007, 09:49 PM
Lol! I may have to get botox for that as well as my face then :D


Botox on your buttocks !!!!!!!!


|Wonderful thought ...no wrinkles on your boT tom ..

Smurf :D :D :D :D :D

Ad McG
06-Jun-2007, 10:24 PM
[QUOTE=Cathain]Tea is known as a diuretic (probably due to the caffine it contains) and is not a good idea for rehydrating yourself.[QUOTE]
Thats what I was goin on about. Thanks Cathain people no longer think I'm a nutter ;) ........I hope.

It's a very, very weak diuretic down to the small amount of caffeine in it. However, usually people drink it in cups which will contain an amount of water that is far greater than the amount that is lost because of the caffeine, so it doesn't dehydrate you.

LucifelNet
10-Jun-2007, 09:41 PM
Aluminium chloride based anti-perspirants work well, though some people can find they cause skin irritation.

The only problem with this, is that aluminum-based anti-perspirants have been proven to increase the chance of alzheimers later in life.

Garrett
10-Jun-2007, 11:17 PM
The only problem with this, is that aluminum-based anti-perspirants have been proven to increase the chance of alzheimers later in life.

Actually there is no causal link...

Heres a good site about alzheimers

http://www.alzheimers.org.uk/Facts_about_dementia/Risk_factors/info_aluminium.htm

Here's a snippet:
"The overwhelming medical and scientific opinion is that the findings outlined above do not convincingly demonstrate a causal relationship between aluminium and Alzheimer's disease, and that no useful medical or public health recommendations can be made, at least at present."

LucifelNet
10-Jun-2007, 11:39 PM
Actually there is no causal link...

Heres a good site about alzheimers

http://www.alzheimers.org.uk/Facts_about_dementia/Risk_factors/info_aluminium.htm

Here's a snippet:
"The overwhelming medical and scientific opinion is that the findings outlined above do not convincingly demonstrate a causal relationship between aluminium and Alzheimer's disease, and that no useful medical or public health recommendations can be made, at least at present."
Holy crap! Awesome. I can go back to anti-perspirant/deoderant without fear of not remembering my name later in life.

CosmicFish
11-Jun-2007, 08:46 AM
I thought the problem with aluminium based anti-perspirants was that they worked by blocking up the sweat pores. Surely that's a bad thing?

I'm going on a dodgy memory of what was originally hearsay though, so feel free to correct.

Su lin
11-Jun-2007, 08:47 AM
Surely blocking sweat glands and pores will only be a bad thing ?

narcsarge
11-Jun-2007, 08:55 AM
Agreed Su Lin! I have this picture that you will retain all the water that you would normally lose to sweating, swell up like a water balloon, and then POP! Just like that Senator in X-Men!

Not a pretty sight for a Panda either! :D