Hakko ryu

[Bulldog]

Are there any hakko ryu people out there?
If so, can you tell me a little about Master LaMonica in Ohio and some of the things involved with this system...

I appreciate any an all responses...I'm just getting into jujutsu and Taiho jutsu...after spending most of my training in Taekwondo...

Loving it!

Would just love to learn more from those who have trained or are currently training.

[TheMachine]

I train in hakko ryu from time to time and what love about it is that the osae-komi is quite good

[Hakko-Ryu]

I DO I DO! :D. But i've allready talked to ya :)

[Bulldog]

21 Waza...here I come!

[Bulldog]

I'm having a blast with this art! I wish I would have started a long time ago!

Ok...so, that's my update...ha ha

[Pasquale]

I tested for nidan in hakko ryu i am under shihan lamonica.if you are going to learn hakko ryu.learn from him or shihan ken balliet.<<Personal contact information removed - Aegis>>

[Pasquale]

I started hakko ryu jujutsu in 94 under shihan Lamonica.in hakkoryu you don't do henka for testing.but in hakko denshin ryu you have to do 40 henka for shodan,and shodan basic waza.I tested for nidan under another hakko ryu shi han and all I had to do was shodan and nidan basic waza.any more questions,go to my web.japanesekaratecenter.com.phone or go to my e-mail.

[Adamwolf]

I studied Hakko Ryu in Florida, one of my favorite styles.

[CCG2]

I used to do hakko ryu here in georgia. From my personal experience, I thought it was kind of like a much more straight forward version of aikido. There were also some judo-like throws, ogoshi, osotogari, etc. Most the training was based around self defense techniques and I spent most of my time learning the shodan techniques, hakko dori, teka gami, etc. It was fun but wasn't really my thing.

[Graham]

I'm learning Hakkoryu in England through Jerry Hobb's Dentokan organisation. I like it, but its a bit more sedate than much of the jujutsu I've done before. Its interesting though.

Its probably the most painful and least energetic MA I've tried.

[Aff]

i've just started with Dentokan too. like you i've done some maniac Ju Jitsu before and as you, find this quite sedate. not sure what i actually want from my training, but i do enjoy this for the time being. however, i really don't know how this style progresses at a later level as i feel ahead of the pack in relation to certain areas. sometimes feel like just asking to be thrown loads so i can do some wicked breakfalls :) however, doesn't look like that will happen anytime soon.

do you know what it's like further up the ladder? does it get strenuous??

[Graham]

I've only had experience of one teacher for the 2 years I've been learning Dentokan, so its hard to tell how other people practice. It remains kata based, so even at high levels its probably not going to get fast and furious.

However, recently I've been training with a bit more 'intent'. I think the instructor is gearing the level of training to how much control he thinks we have. So perhaps it will get more energetic and realistic as we progress.

But I don't now if this is a typical way of instruction in Dentokan jujutsu, or just my instructors way.

I'm enjoying it all anyway.

Graham

[Aff]

graham, can i ask why you left your original jitsu style for dentokan bearing in mind what you have said, that it is more 'sedate'. i say sedate, but of course this is in training, not necessarily in practice.

before i used to rely on jitsu for fitness but with this style i have to compensate with some extra cv/gym work.

other than this aspect it appears a decent MA and i hope to continue with it.

[Graham]

In my case it was the usual story, you train in something for a while, and then relocate, and can't find another teacher. I did about 3 years of jujutsu with the Aiuchi association in London, but don't live anywhere near an Aiuchi club now.

It appears to me that many of the Dentokan people in the UK have backgrounds in other MAs, particularly aikido.

Plus, I wanted to try something new. Most jujutsu in the UK is pretty similar, regardless of the organisation. So you have to search out things like Hakkoryu or the koryu styles if you want a different perspective.

[yoj]

Sedate - aye, that's me ;-) We end up doing a lot of randori at times, which is less than sedate, gets quite messy, ends up in groundwork etc, but, to be effective at it, you need the basics is sensitivity to Kuzushi and whatnot, so it does take time to get to where it can be less sedentary, and anyway, the henka doesn't have to be that way at all, even the kata doesn't actually need to be....

[Graham]

Hakko ryu that ends up in ground work. I've not seen that before. Which organisation do you train with?

Out of interest, how long does it take on average to shodan in the different organisations teaching Hakkoryu derived arts? Or how long did individuals reading this take? (to reach shodan, not finish reading the sentance).

[Graham]

A very interesting video about Hakko ryu has turned up on YouTube, it contains clips of Okuyama Ryuho performing techniques.

Hakko ryu

[greg1075]

I train in Hakko Ryu JJ under Sensei Chris Noetzli (3rd deg BB). He was himself trained by Sensei Nick Theodorou (5th deg BB) from Boston, one of O'Sensei Joe Puleio's top two students (the other is his brother Phil Theodorou).

Anyways...the problem with martial arts is that first of all you have hundreds of ryus, and even within a same ryu, there are differences. The Theodorou brothers have made changes to J.Puleio's curriculum, which he himself adapted from the how he saw fit. And so it goes, the curriculum and emphases are modified depending on who teaches. I'm currently a blue belt, training for Brown and training to teach as well. I already have certain ideas regarding what I have learned so far as to what is street worthy, what is not and should be dropped etc. As to what I learn: mid-range, close-range, close quarter strikes, joint locks (duh), some judo, aikido and grappling. Knife, stick and gun defense as well.