Why!

[Spikedude]

im sick of the schools going for the dollar then the love of the arts. i went to some schools to check up for a second school to go to because i want to learn another style to go with the one im learning now, and only one seemed more into training then the hype and dollar they get from their students. which really depresses me. They got schools opening up and they dont even offer anything that really works and gives the martial arts a bad name. they have this one school two miles from me that promises to give you a blackbelt by your first year if you sign up for their blackbelt club! that doesnt even offer any more training or anything just a bag of gear and uniform with blackbelt club on the back for $199. I just hope that this in time will go away and old fashion schools come back.

[47Ronin]

I know where you are coming from man, I just left a school like that. Hope you find a good school.

[Mrs Owt]

If you search long enough you will find the place for you. Even if you think you are in a good place it is always beneficial to see what is out there, especially if you are not experienced in the martial arts. You may think because they don't stress belts they can't be a mcdojo. Trust me, they can. If they teach you extra katas that don't belong in the syllabus to get belts that is just as bad as adding extra belts, it is just playing the get your money game a little differently. It just has less of an appearance of 'mcdojoism'.

Keep searching, you will find good schools out there.

[Spikedude]

hey,


thanks guys i know i will eventually just gotta search lil harder. also i like that mcdojo coment lol

[Mrs Owt]

McDojo's come in many forms. Many see them as just the kind of places that have guaranteed blackbelts in under two years or 27 belts, and belts stripes with ascending costs associated with each one. I see a more insidious type that teaches 'quasi' MA or half breed MA while claiming to be something else. Just like McDonald's sells pseudo food the McDojo teaches pseudo TKD,Karate, Kung fu - fill inthe blank for whatever style.

I think a McDojo is actually a place where the instructor teaches with no concern for any actual development of their students but just teaches in a one-dimensional way and hooking them with whatever is their personal goal is to keep them paying month to month.

You ask Why? Why not? It is a capitalist world in most developed nations and there are suckers born every minute. Why not in the MA world? We are no better than anyone else sadly. It is up to the consumer to research the school, instructor, their credentials and go and compare schools. You wouldn't buy the first car you test drove, why would you sign a deal at the first school? Don't assume because a school uses a styles name that they are actually teaching that style. Often it is the bait, using the style, because that lends credibility to what they are teaching. How many of us would leave our kids at a place where the instructor says "I just made it all up. I don't have any real training or trophies to back up my claims - you just have to believe me because I say so." ? So word to the wise, research the school. Find out your instructor's instructor and talk to him/her. Do the homework, it is worth it.

[Van_the_cookie_man]

McDojos arent always caused because of a greedy instructor. Ive seen a low priced dojo with an instructor who allowed some of hardest working students to attend free and the students who payed, payed very low. The place provided horrible training because the instructor continously underestimated his students or didn't want to make them feel bad.

[Spikedude]

both good points, but i wouldnt call a mcdojo if someone was at good dojo and just learning the proper form its just poor instruction, unless the tech. is impossible to pull of like ive seen at the couple schools i tried out for their free first classes.

[Kof_Andy]

Often trial class is not enough to grade the school yet, if I were you I would watch there class for about a month before sign up.

[Reiki]

Glad we don't have McDojos here! :)

We offer 2 free classes for new people to try out the club, and unlimited visits to watch our classes if they want to before they have their free sessions.

Usually they join up after the 2 classes if they are serious about learning MA.

[Spikedude]

what kind of MA do you guys teach

[white_sash]

at my friends place, the cost of his tution is roughly £5.30 for 1 hour and it is a style that usually hasnt got gradings, but this school does.

would this class as a mcdojo?

[ns_oni]

i am happy i dont go to a mc dojo, the fees are $5.00 for 2 hours, most equipment can be borrowed.

[Shaolin Dragon]

It is the choice you make when joining a class - do you go for the professional teacher and risk going to a mcdojo or the amateur teacher who may not be as good?

[neryo_tkd]

the sad fact is that there a schools that are more interested in money than the art itself. u shouldn't waste ur time whining about that. so i have only one thing to tell u: don't start hating the art because of lousy instructors or fees, after all it's not the art's fault!

[chungmoomonkey]

ya thats the kinda place i went to when io was little they didntb care about me becoming a martialartist they cared about getten my money so i quitr and went to klotz because it was alot smaller
they care alot and its alot hjarder (witch i like ) they have a standerd that u must meet there getting bigger but still have instructures that care

[chungmoomonkey]

amatures are more enthuseastic id go with him