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sprint
10-Feb-2007, 08:13 AM
i don't know about you guys but bjj has given me this kinda crazy self confidence. i walk around and say to myself, "i can k!ll you, you , you , you." id also be like, "you might be bigger than me but i'll mess you up." this is all in my mind of course.
i know its kinda wrong and i want it to stop. i don't want to be no cocky a hole or anything, that is just not me. but lately i notice that my ego has kinda been inflated.
any advice on how to let me be more humble? or any thoughts, comments, insights, etc.
Mei Hua
10-Feb-2007, 08:28 AM
A: Time, patience, working on letting the ego fade away.
B: Getting whooped by a bunch of other fighters.
I'd go the A route, but it's your choice, everyone gets that feeling when doing MA's, eventually reality/truth set in and it fades somewhat, not completely, but enough that you aren't as cocky
narcsarge
10-Feb-2007, 08:34 AM
Great post Mei!
Sprint, training is all about building confidence. You want a reality check, just practice against someone with more experience then you have and see how your skills stack up. Always remember, there is always someone bigger and badder then you. Heck, even a novice can get lucky!
pauli
10-Feb-2007, 09:51 AM
yellow belt syndrome.
slipthejab
10-Feb-2007, 10:04 AM
i don't know about you guys but bjj has given me this kinda crazy self confidence. i walk around and say to myself, "i can k!ll you, you , you , you." id also be like, "you might be bigger than me but i'll f you up." this is all in my mind of course.
i know its kinda wrong and i want it to stop. i don't want to be no cocky a hole or anything, that is just not me. but lately i notice that my ego has kinda been inflated.
any advice on how to let me be more humble? or any thoughts, comments, insights, etc.
Having self confidence is good.
Though... someone who walks around measuring everyone up in their mind is actually lacking in self confidence. In fact that sort of measurement of people is actually a sure sign of insecurity.
People who have been around long enough and have been through enough scrapes understand that it doesn't take that much to get wiped out. Not much at all.
I'd have to question where you're rolling and who with if you think your a walking machine of destruction... I can almost guarantee you that you're not. Not even close.
I'd say give the ego a rest and train more.
If you're not tapping out... something is wrong with your training.
What rank in BJJ are you?
How long have you trained?
And what comps have you entered and what weight category?
How did you place?
sprint
10-Feb-2007, 09:02 PM
Having self confidence is good.
Though... someone who walks around measuring everyone up in their mind is actually lacking in self confidence. In fact that sort of measurement of people is actually a sure sign of insecurity.
People who have been around long enough and have been through enough scrapes understand that it doesn't take that much to get wiped out. Not much at all.
I'd have to question where you're rolling and who with if you think your a walking machine of destruction... I can almost guarantee you that you're not. Not even close.
I'd say give the ego a rest and train more.
If you're not tapping out... something is wrong with your training.
What rank in BJJ are you?
How long have you trained?
And what comps have you entered and what weight category?
How did you place?
all of the higher ranks at my school totally destroy me... but the thing is, i still think i am better off than most of the population. there is a quote that i heard, "The ground is the ocean, I am the shark and most people, don't even know how to swim." so yeah even though the higher ranks destroy me at will i just think about that quote.
i've been rolling for about a year now. i have entered eight competitions at blue belt and have medaled in seven of them in the 190 lb. weight category.
i need help. my ego is getting too big. i walk around and as i pass people on the street, in my head, i would go i, "i could kick his ass, his ass, his ass, his ass, etc. i know it is wrong and i want it to stop. but i don't know if there is a shut off valve.
gornex
10-Feb-2007, 09:21 PM
you could always fight people, just keep fighting, if you always win maybe you deserve a big ego, but more likely sooner or later you will loose and maybe that will help. You could also roll with some real experience people and probably realize you have much to learn.
gornex
10-Feb-2007, 09:23 PM
also maybe try a mma fight
Hatamoto
11-Feb-2007, 09:32 AM
Maybe turn it around. I forget where I heard this quote, I think Chris Crudelli said it. "There are better fighters out there than you, and there always will be. If you go out looking for trouble, you will find them."
I know how you feel, though. When I was training aikijutsu, I felt the same way. Started judging movies even, somebody would throw a punch and the other person would block it, and I'd be itching to shout "nerve point here, lock it like this".
Turn it around. Don't think "I could kick HIS ass, and HIS ass.." Start thinking "if HE was in trouble, maybe I could help" or something. Make it more positive. Relate it to your motives instead of your apparent skill.
My ego disappeared the night a boxer put me in the hospital. I was doing TKD at the time, he opened with a hook and I tried to kick him, it barely touched him. Then he took me to the floor and it was goodnight Irene. Don't let this be you. Learn the easy way.
Maybe go to another dojo, where you're the beginner, the newb. That's bound to remind you that sure, you're better than some people. But there are a lot of people better than you.
And be wary. I can't streetfight, if crap kicked off I'd go for what would end the fight. It's not classy, but I'd be going for dangly parts and knees and throats. Like has been said, even a novice can get lucky. And moreso, they might be carrying a weapon or have friends around the corner.
slipthejab
11-Feb-2007, 09:53 AM
i need help. my ego is getting too big. i walk around and as i pass people on the street, in my head, i would go i, "i could kick his ass, his ass, his ass, his ass, etc. i know it is wrong and i want it to stop. but i don't know if there is a shut off valve.
The shut off valve has a name... it's called maturity. ;)
In reality your problem sounds similar to many other problems of insecurity.
People who smoke dope are much the same... they can't just smoke their dope and be happy and stoned and keep their mouths shut.... no... they've got to let everyone know that they're smoking dope and how good it is and yadda yadda yadda. :rolleyes:
Nothing more than an advertisment of insecurity in themsleves... much in the same way your thread about your insecurity has become one more ego stroke. It gives you a way to focus attention on you. You become the figure in the spotlight. Only more absurd by the fact you know that you could get pounded flat by some joe blow on the street who's never rolled around in white pajamas. :D
Like most people and their problems... they don't actually want solutions to them... they really have a desire for attention and go about that by letting their problems become the self centered topic of conversation.
Those who desire true change to don't blab about it... they just get on with it. ;)
sprint
11-Feb-2007, 12:27 PM
The shut off valve has a name... it's called maturity. ;)
In reality your problem sounds similar to many other problems of insecurity.
People who smoke dope are much the same... they can't just smoke their dope and be happy and stoned and keep their mouths shut.... no... they've got to let everyone know that they're smoking dope and how good it is and yadda yadda yadda. :rolleyes:
Nothing more than an advertisment of insecurity in themsleves... much in the same way your thread about your insecurity has become one more ego stroke. It gives you a way to focus attention on you. You become the figure in the spotlight. Only more absurd by the fact you know that you could get pounded flat by some joe blow on the street who's never rolled around in white pajamas. :D
Like most people and their problems... they don't actually want solutions to them... they really have a desire for attention and go about that by letting their problems become the self centered topic of conversation.
Those who desire true change to don't blab about it... they just get on with it. ;)
insecure about what? it seems as if you are attacking a cliche... some motto. sounds very generic.
now back to the subject... don't get me wrong, i keep all of this to myself. i don't walk around bragging to other people about how i could do this or do that. i understand the consequences of my actions if i did. it is just that brazilian jiu jitsu has empowered my soul.
slipthejab
11-Feb-2007, 01:32 PM
insecure about what?
That's for you to find out. That's the crux of your issue.
Why is it you feel you need to run around comparing yourself to others in your head. If you're so confident of about all the people that you can beat up then I suggest you step into the ring and throw down with those who have skills - not the average joe on the street.
Until you do that... you're only fooling yourself.
it seems as if you are attacking a cliche... some motto. sounds very generic.
I'm not attacking anything. I'm responding to the thread you posted. You yourself admit you have a problem. My response and observation is that your problems of perception are based on:
1) immaturity
2) insecurity
You are right in one respect. It is rather generic. It's very common for people who've done a bit rolling to think they're king of the world and roam around mental measuring everyone up.
It's also silly and immature.
now back to the subject...
No one ever left the subject. You just had trouble understanding it. ;)
don't get me wrong, i keep all of this to myself. i don't walk around bragging to other people about how i could do this or do that.
You didn't keep it to yourself. You came on the forum and posted it.
Different medium - same concept.
i understand the consequences of my actions if i did. it is just that brazilian jiu jitsu has empowered my soul.
I wouldn't say it's your soul. I'd say it's your ego and perhaps your inability to seperate your newfound self confindence from delusional thoughts.
Anyhow... whatever...
if you don't sort it out... eventually you'll act on it and someone will sort you out. :D Happens rather a lot to people with sort of problem.
Atharel
11-Feb-2007, 04:25 PM
In reality your problem sounds similar to many other problems of insecurity.
People who smoke dope are much the same... they can't just smoke their dope and be happy and stoned and keep their mouths shut.... no... they've got to let everyone know that they're smoking dope and how good it is and yadda yadda yadda. :rolleyes:
Stop badmouthing Eddie Bravo! *runs away crying*
To OP: really, realize something: Yes, you have a distinct advantage in a fight with a basic knowledge of BJJ. However, so does every guy who ever wrestled, so does every guy who ever boxed, etc. You shouldn't be thinking about "yeah, I can take him" because you're going to be wrong eventually at the worst possible time. Just accept that you're confident in your ability to handle yourself, let it become background noise, and move on.
Tommy-2guns...
11-Feb-2007, 06:16 PM
i dont have it all the time, but i get what yopur saying. In my opinion its perfectly fine and i think most men do either subconciously or conciously weigh each other up making all kinds of abstractions in your mind about how you could fight them,or how theyd fight, or if they did 'this' id do 'that'. i think it just comes with the territory when you know how to fight (or at least think you do).
i think that kind of blatent overconfidence can be a great asset to you or the reason for your downfall. within reason, that kind of self beleif cant hurt,constantly being aware of whos around you,when your in the gym thinking about your game plan for types of opponents, and the general im invincible kind of vibe is common place before competitions, just look at how boxers mentally prepare,all the greats have done it (ali,tyson etc.) and will continue to do so.
its when its not competition time then it becomes dangerous, of course being confident(and as a result looking confident)is good for target hardening and may put off guys looking for a victim. it may also bring on trouble and make you get into situations you cant win.
so be carefull when you tread that line of self confidence,think your great, train like your great, but leave it in the gym/ring.in the outside world, be confident sure but be cool and be aware of what your limitations are.
sprint
12-Feb-2007, 12:27 AM
That's for you to find out. That's the crux of your issue.
Why is it you feel you need to run around comparing yourself to others in your head. If you're so confident of about all the people that you can beat up then I suggest you step into the ring and throw down with those who have skills - not the average joe on the street.
Until you do that... you're only fooling yourself.
i do "throw down" with those who have skills. i compete in tournaments a lot with other blue belts... a fact that you have chosen to ignore.
PASmith
12-Feb-2007, 09:44 AM
I do a similar thing sometimes.
After a HARD 45 minutes of circuit training I get into work and look around at the other guys here.
The guys that sit at a computer all day.
The guys that get puffed out walking up the stairs.
The guys that smoke and eat crap.
That certainly gives me an ego boost. :o
Fishbone.
12-Feb-2007, 10:12 AM
Computer games almost ruined my life.. Literally.
Use your confidence to train harder.. Or get Anger Managment lol.
koyo
12-Feb-2007, 10:22 AM
Look at it from a martial arts point of view. Confidence is essential. But overconfidencs can lead to carelessness giving your opponent an opening. It can even lead to underestimating the opponent.Find the balance be confident in your own standard (while striving to better it) But understand that others may be more confident because of more experience (and not display it so openly)Martial arts demands the RETENTION of skill and spirit until that moment when they are needed.
regards koyo
Hatamoto
12-Feb-2007, 07:39 PM
Read about a guy in a TKD tourny once who was against a guy who was a mountain. Barely attacked, but managed to block damn near everything the guy was throwing at him. So he went for something flashy to take the mountain by surprise - an axe kick. Soon as the leg was up, BAM, mountain made his move, and suddenly the guy is on his ass.
Just to give an example to aid the post above.
If nothing else, look at bad guys in films who are so up themselves they leave the hero along with a creative death, assuming the creation is so awesome there's no possible way of escape. Hero escapes, kills bad guy :p lol you CAN learn from movies :D
Agutrot-
12-Feb-2007, 08:15 PM
Just do what I do and triangle everyone you meet.
zenboy
28-Dec-2007, 11:16 PM
grow up and stop wasting time writing in about this.
soyez efficaces
30-Dec-2007, 05:27 AM
Computer games almost ruined my life.. Literally.
Use your confidence to train harder.. Or get Anger Managment lol.
not much to do on Tazzie eh? :D
paul
soyez efficaces
30-Dec-2007, 05:29 AM
i don't know about you guys but bjj has given me this kinda crazy self confidence. i walk around and say to myself, "i can k!ll you, you , you , you." id also be like, "you might be bigger than me but i'll mess you up." this is all in my mind of course.
i know its kinda wrong and i want it to stop. i don't want to be no cocky a hole or anything, that is just not me. but lately i notice that my ego has kinda been inflated.
any advice on how to let me be more humble? or any thoughts, comments, insights, etc. This is a dangerous mindset you have mate
You need to find other things to occupy your time with then just training ;)
paul
Stevebjj
30-Dec-2007, 06:27 AM
I think that there are better threads to bring back from the dead than this one by a guy who has since been banned from the boards. :)
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